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AK1131

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CSX2388
« on: February 07, 2019, 02:15:19 »
I recently read the article in ACtion regarding CSX2388. I did some research and found there is a replica CSX2388 and a report the the original CSX2388 was reported destroyed in the 1970’s.

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Re: CSX2388
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2019, 11:48:41 »
The real CSX2388 has been uncovered and is being brought back from the dead: www.hotrod.com/articles/rare-find-1965-shelby-289-cobra/

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Re: CSX2388
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2019, 14:17:14 »
I think the difficulty in reconciling the histories of various cars may come in part from the fact that the ACOC Register and the SAAC Registry treat some "events" differently. Under the SAAC methodology, if a car disappears for some time but suddenly shows up again, we resurrect it based on its completeness. If the bulk of the car still exists, we say so and it can be rebuilt with no difficulty. However, under the ACOC guidelines, it appears that an incomplete or interrupted history can work against the vehicle. In the case of the genuine 2388, it was taken off the road following a collision, and the registration was no renewed as the owner chose not to repair it. This led to some genius in the DMV to conclude the car must have been destroyed entirely and hence, no longer existed, at which point various parts were said to have been sold to the UK and a fresh car reconstructed from them. But ownership of "parts," even if that may include an engine (albeit not from the real car in this case) does not construe ownership of a VIN nor legal possession of whatever car the parts are said to have derived from. In the case of CSX 2388, the real car remained in existence in the owner's garage for decades, with the original engine, gearbox, ancillaries, etc. This is the car being rebuilt today, with some replacement alloy and tube straightening being part of the process. Sad to say, the process renders the supposed 2388 in England nothing more than a modern replica.

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Re: CSX2388
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2019, 10:10:17 »
Ned,

Not the case. We also ‘resurrect it based on its completeness’; the only requirement is that the car hasn’t been parted out.

The ex Jim Rose 2388 is correctly described in the ACOC leaf-spring replicas appendix as:

VIN asserted    Date    Reg      Colour  Trim  Last known owner   Location  Additional information
   CSX2388        1986  1964 AC    Silver    Red    Michel Lecourt          France       Built by Jim Rose. RHD. Converted to LHD.                                                                                                                                          Race prepared. FIA HTP.
                               EBY 518B                                                                         [Jim Rose]
                                                                                                                      (Original exists, in the USA)
                                                                                                                       

The ACOC has always classified the Rose 2388, now in France, as a Replica built in 1986.

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« Last Edit: March 07, 2019, 10:18:36 by rstainer »

Cobra Ned

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Re: CSX2388
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2019, 02:16:18 »
Glad to hear you have "resurrected" the genuine but formerly missing original, Robin!