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Morgy

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« on: July 09, 2015, 10:56:17 »
Hi all
   
   I'm new on the forum and would like some info on a few of AC 289's
   
   Price and history on COB 6120 COB 6155 and COB 6124

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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2015, 11:47:48 »
Mark,
   
   The Club's registers, which summarise the known relevant history of each car, are available to all members on the website:
   (http://www.acownersclub.co.uk/members-area/models/cobra_thamesditton/)
   

   The Club does not keep price records or comment on values.
   
   Robin Stainer
   Thames Ditton Cobra Registrar

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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2015, 15:11:07 »
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Originally posted by Morgy
   

   
   Price and history on COB 6120 COB 6155 and COB 6124
   
   

   
   Do you mean COB 6055? The last AC 289 Sport was COB 6127.

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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2015, 16:06:03 »
Hi
   
   No 6115..

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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2015, 18:09:06 »
Hi Mark & welcome.
   Is there anything in particular you want to know?
   Ex-Billy Walker(the boxer), 6115 (reg PPE 20E) is one of the most campaigned UK Cobras, I last saw it at Cholmondeley Pageant of Power in 2012. I think it`s still owned by J.Bradburn.
   Not much I can add on the other 2...

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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2015, 23:05:24 »
6115s last known owner is Jonathan Bradburn. Its register entry  'Additional Information' (http://www.acownersclub.co.uk/members-area/models/cobra_thamesditton/) reads:
   
   "G A Walker, EC 2. Mr W Walker, SW 1.
   Severely damaged in 1969. Rebuilt in the early 70s with a shortened AC Paramount chassis (COB6130) and a new body. Damaged again in the mid 80s and again rebuilt with a new chassis and body. Race prepared. Webers. Alloy wheels.
   Severely damaged again in 2012. It is understood that the car is to be repaired, in part using original components discarded in its early 70s rebuild and incorporated circa 2005 into the 6130 replica. These components are understood to comprise front and rear A-frames, chassis cross members, sub-structure parts and some body panels.
   [Billy Walker (67), Stephen Morris (69), Lord Russell, David Salamone (70), Alan Ede (80), Geoff King (85), Aidan Mills-Thomas, Bill Bridges, John Andon (06)]"

   
   It has no period race history.
   
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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2015, 11:30:31 »
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Originally posted by rstainer:...
   Severely damaged again in 2012.
   
   It has no period race history.
   
   RS
Yes. I saw it crash at the CPOP. Big Thump. Very glad to see the driver was uninjured.
   I should have elaborated when I said "most campaigned" to say in the last 30 years, particularly in the hands of Aiden Mills-Thomas & Bill Bridges, plus it was a TV star, when Gordon Ramsay drove it whilst helping John Andon cook a meal(before he got too sweary!!!)  [8D]

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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2015, 10:01:33 »
Hi..
   Thanks for all your posts.. I am currently looking for a nice COB or CSX 289 car.  I have joined the club now Still waiting for my membership to come through so i can have a look at the registry.  I am finding it fairly hard to work out the values of some of the cars offered for sale at the moment, there seems to be a huge price range between cars that seem to have the same kind of history and condition.   Dealers just fishing or being optimistic??

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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2015, 10:10:39 »
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Originally posted by Morgy
   
Hi...I am currently looking for a nice COB or CSX 289 car... Dealers just fishing or being optimistic??
   
Was it ever any different? [;)]
   Best of luck with your quest, I hope the right car for you is not too far away. [:)]

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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2015, 16:52:14 »
Hi All...
   
   I have just been looking through the registry on COB 6120 now that i am a member ;-)
   
   Crashed at Silverstone in 1977.
   Rebuilt in 1979 with a new body.
   Remodelled in 427 style in the 80s. Converted to LHD. Bonnet scoop. Side pipes. Peg drive. 8"/10" alloy wheels.
   How would this Effect the current price or resale value of the car?
   I am happy to say it is now RHD and with no bonnet scoop or side pipes.. Would an AC 289 MK111 not have the 427 body anyway? (sorry newbie question)
   Apparently the car has undergone Full restoration finished 2014 would it not have been better to restore it back to factory spec..

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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2015, 17:15:14 »
Welcome to the Club!
   The AC289 has a narrower rear arch profile than a 427:
   
   
   
   ...And by all accounts is the best-driving variant of Cobra, with coilspring chassis & small block engine.

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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2015, 17:25:10 »
Well, let's say that the AC 289 has a narrower rear arch than most 427 Cobras. Can't forget the 30-odd cars in the 3125-3158 range that came from the factory with the narrow rear hips just like the AC 289.

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« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2015, 10:48:50 »
Is there details of the Build spec for each UK 289? The registry is a little vague.
   
   Ie, style of Dash fitted, engine numbers, either Dynamo or alternator,
   
   Were cast type manifolds fitted as standard or tube style headers/manifolds on late COB 289's

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« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2015, 21:40:04 »
ACOC registers do not record information readily available in commercially-published material (for example ‘Original AC Ace & Cobra – The Restorers Guide’ (Motorbooks International)).
   
   They serve to record, for individual cars, material known facts that might not otherwise be made available to potential owners.
   
   The conclusion that ‘the registry is a little vague’ is not one I’ve heard before, from either oldies or newbies. To the contrary, most users seriously interested in an individual car are surprised by the quantity of information that supports individual entries. For example, the Thames Ditton Cobra Register is 480kb; only 770mb (less than 0.2%) is published on the Club’s website.
   
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« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2015, 02:19:15 »
"Style of dash fitted?" How may varieties were there?