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PANAVIA

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« on: April 17, 2014, 05:36:55 »
Greetings , - good to meet all of you.
   
   I was wondering if anyone here had an AC MkIV from 1987 ,88 and had their owners manual handy.
   
   the question is;
   
   Does the 1987-88 Owners Manual Schematic refer to the EFI system, or is it still the schematic for the 1984-1985 Carburated car >?
   
   thank you all !
   
   Steve ( Panavia )

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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2014, 02:15:07 »
65 reads and nobody has any ideas >?

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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2014, 18:52:30 »
French Frie, as you have mine, you can look, but I recall no schematic for EFI specifically. Jim

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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2014, 04:58:06 »
We received one by email - which I cleaned up and have now PDF'd.--if anyone would like a copy of that--
   
   - send me a PM at ; Steve ( At ) PANAVIA.COM
   
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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2014, 08:16:16 »
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Originally posted by jbottini
   
French Frie, as you have mine, you can look, but I recall no schematic for EFI specifically. Jim
   

   
   nope... Even if the car is actually injected, the handbook is still refering to carbed version [:o)] !

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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2014, 18:31:24 »
well - we have a Unicorn then. -- as I have a scanned copy of the manual which depicts a EFI speed density schematic (1986-87-88) before they went to mass air in 1989, however when did AC/Autokraft ship its last MkIV >?

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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2014, 23:33:40 »
I'm sure  that Brain used up old stock or perhaps FF's car has a mismatched manual. The owners web site can tell you with some specificity, but it may be later than the BK ( or what ever it is called in UK) and AL taking over

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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2014, 05:28:58 »
quote:
Originally posted by PANAVIA
   
Greetings , - good to meet all of you.
   
   I was wondering if anyone here had an AC MkIV from 1987 ,88 and had their owners manual handy.
   
   the question is;
   
   Does the 1987-88 Owners Manual Schematic refer to the EFI system, or is it still the schematic for the 1984-1985 Carburated car >?
   
   thank you all !
   
   Steve ( Panavia )
   
From a previous post:
   
   You are correct, my Owner’s Handbook (like yours)appears to be for an earlier carbureted car, and not a fuel injected 302. The diagram on p. 29 clearly shows an air cleaner for a carburetor. There is no mention of wiring for a fuel pump (I assume the carbureted cars have a mechanical pump). What’s interesting is that the Mk IV Owners Handbook posted at: http://rides.webshots.com/album/31597373CwUCdBYNFd shows a fuel injected engine on p. 29, and refers to a fuel pump (#22), a fuel pump relay (RY1), and a fuel pump fuse (#20, 20A). Apparently the factory was a little late in getting their handbooks up-dated.

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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2014, 23:36:57 »
Mine also 1988 and the manual is still the carb version ... stuggled a bit with that when I was trying to locate the fuses for the electronic fuel pump issues I had.
   
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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2014, 00:54:25 »
MKIV...want to explain Brian and Ford engines to clear this up?

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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2014, 22:02:51 »
On the subject of EFI does can any one advise where the ecu diagnostic plug is located (or what it looks like)? I have a Ace (Brooklands), which needs the engine management checked out. Since fitting the usual power adders (but not camshaft) some years back engine has irritating tendency to stall when selecting D (auto box), which no amount of T/B resetting has solved. Idle in neutral is no problem nor once engine has settled in drive, but as revs drop as engine takes up load, engine “hangs” at 500 rpm for brief moment then, more often than not, stalls.
   
   Any help would be much appreciated.
   
   Max

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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2014, 01:00:42 »
quote:
Originally posted by jbottini
   
MKIV...want to explain Brian and Ford engines to clear this up?
   

   
   Autokraft was effectively one year behind in engines as supplied by Ford. Whereas the 5.0 went to fuel injection in the Mustang for 1986 Autokraft continued to use the on hand carbureted engines. When the EFI stock arrived they continued to build carbs with the first of the EFI units mixed in. There is no "changeover" point and there are carb'ed cars with VINs higher than some EFI cars.
   
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