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428 Frua Forum / Scans of AC 428 Frua Articles & Ad's...
« on: November 20, 2007, 19:18:25 »
New Arrival:
   June 1987 Auto Exklusiv Magazine [in German] article on Pietro Frua:

   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   This is the item I mentioned a week ago today that may be of interest.   Sorry it's in German, but perhaps someone will get adventurous with Bablefish and post a translation for us...
   
   Larger scans in a variety of sizes are located here...:
   http://home.xnet.com/~cmaddox/motorin/frua/198706_auto_exklusiv/
   
   --  Chuck
   
   P.S. I also have some other items [new ones too!] on their way to me.  Hopefully I'll have something new to post next week too!...  --  Chuck

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428 Frua Forum / Draft list of AC 428 Fruas known to date.
« on: November 20, 2007, 17:53:13 »
quote:
Originally posted by Mark-Anthony
   
Hi Guys
   
   I can confirm that
   
   CF 55 is:- a fastback,
              in England,
              in bits, and
              in "storage".
   
   Mark-Anthony
   

   
   That's good to hear!  Any further details [Transmission, color, Registration Number [it's how we often refer to specific cars]] would be greatly appreciated.
   
   Cheers!
   
   --  Chuck

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428 Frua Forum / AC 428 owners experience?
« on: November 17, 2007, 15:02:27 »
quote:
Originally posted by runt
   
Chuck, whilst 'variety is the spice of life' is a favourite phrase of mine,  sorry Chev lovers.. of course any AC or Shelby clone must have Fo Mo Co power..!

   No argument from me, after all I did say:
quote:
Originally posted by cmaddox3
   
I know there are probably all sorts of benefits with Bow-Tie power in terms of parts [especially aftermarket] availability. But to me, there is just something inherently wrong with a Chevy [or Mopar] plant in a Cobra, or Mustang, or Shelby. And for me it's just as abhorrent to see a Ford plant in a Camaro or Corvette. Some things are just wrong! LOL!"

   And I firmly believe that if a AC 428 Frua were to be some sort of continuation edition, I am in full agreement.  The powerplant would have to be Blue Oval and preferably FE block based if not 428 or 427 based.  However, if the Mark II is basically a kit car where someone obtains a stretched 427 Cobra chassis [I'd think rolling chassis would be quickest and easiest for most folks] and then attaches a Frua body to it, then the powerplant becomes a matter of owner/builder choice.  As does the rest of the "fitting out" details.
   
quote:
Originally posted by runt
   
I feel that when we start to consider the interior trim for our AC 428 Mk2, there could be plenty of diversity as to; colors, seating for various sizes of pilot.. instrumentation, equipment, BUT.. any credible sports/GT should conform to this runt's insistence that ONLY REAL HIDE will do; I also like the fluted hide headlining as used in some old Ferraris (and some old airplane cockpits too..)
   
   Paul.[:)]

   And here I thought my preferred option list including a stereo with CD/MP3CD/iPod integration [minimum] preferably with Satellite Radio reception as well, GPS and [Gasp!] Cruise Control would generate protests...
   
   No, for me, even a kit Mark II Frua would have to have a block which started life as a 428 for it's powerplant [OK, I would strongly consider a 406 and 427 FE block as well].  As I've said, I wouldn't have any qualms about going with upgraded carb, intake and exhaust manifolds, improved ignition, or other reasonable and modest upgrades with the goal of improving the end result though. Of course, were I interested in building a racer...  The 427 would be the way to go.  I'm thinking tunnel port would be serviceable.
   
   But who am I to dictate other people's vision?
   
   
quote:
Originally posted by Classicus
   
Once remember thinking that it was definitely a car for the single guy rather a family man. Where to put the kids and so on....all that space....

   
   Well, Neither the AC Cobras [et. al.] nor the Frua's seem to be congruent with a family man with small kids.  It's more of a Single Man's or Couple's touring car.  I could see it as an Executive/Businessman's ride though.
   
   I always thought that it would be an ideal Spy's car...  I mean it'd have the performance edge over most anything 007 drove back in the day and was a far more exclusive car than the Lotus and Aston Martin's Bond was usually paired up with and with that big honkin' V8 in it, probably one helluva lot more reliable.
   
   --  Chuck

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428 Frua Forum / AC 428 owners experience?
« on: November 15, 2007, 14:13:31 »
quote:
Originally posted by runt
   
I go along with those sentiments Chuck, interestingly a swing in the 'kit car' scene over here shows a renewed demand for the FE motor in 427 replicas, many avoiding the cost of a 427 side oiler by using the visually similar 390 FE with a stroked crank and of course the ally heads saving LBS in weight, as said massive potential in these leviathans!
   
   Paul.[:)]

   
   For me the real benefit of the 427, aside from performance bene's, are the cross-bolted main caps. My first car was a 1969 Torino GT Convertible with a 390/stick and it's a very capable engine.  Probably more forgiving in daily use than it's more high-strung higher-displacement sibling.  I know there are probably all sorts of benefits with Bow-Tie power in terms of parts [especially aftermarket] availability.  But to me, there is just something inherently wrong with a Chevy [or Mopar] plant in a Cobra, or Mustang, or Shelby.  And for me it's just as abhorrent to see a Ford plant in a Camaro or Corvette.  Some things are just wrong!  LOL!
   
   Of course there are modern conveniences which I would like a Mark II to possess...  A modern stereo system with integrated CD/MP3CD player [in-dash single or multi-disk would be fine], with easy fuss-free MP3 player [iPod] connectivity. Satellite Radio would be warmly received [especially on longer trips] and GPS would be a boon for Touring.
   
   Perhaps a more controversial possible addition [again this is for an AC 428 Frua Mark II kit] would be Cruise Control.  I know this is something that really flies in the face of the spirit of driver involvement when it come to the driving experience, but people who would protest the loudest have probably not driven across Nebraska on a overcast day.  I spent an entire summer driving across Nebraska one afternoon [and if that sentence doesn't make sense to you, you've never been to Nebraska: for if you have driven across Nebraska on Interstate 80, it makes perfect sense].
   
   Aside from those features, I am hard pressed to think of any other additions.  Of course, sourcing original seating would likely be problematic, but I see that as an opportunity for owners to pick seating that appeals to themselves.  There are probably some really nice Recaro or Schell seats which might be an improvement than the originals.  Hmmm...  This is an interesting link:
   
   http://www.cerullo.com/sportsSeats/
   
   Nice to see a section for Cobra 289/427 seating.  I'd think the GT or SC seats would look good in a Mark II.  And the F1 from this site is "Designed in conjunction with Carroll Shelby for use in the Limited Edition Series 1 Sports Car" interestingly enough.
   
   Any other thoughts from the peanut gallery about what additions/changes they might incorporate in a AC 428 Frua Mark II kit they built [or had built turnkey]?  I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts.
   
   --  Chuck

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428 Frua Forum / Fastback for sale at Hurstpark
« on: November 14, 2007, 21:06:35 »
quote:
Originally posted by Classicus
   
quote:
Originally posted by cmaddox3
   
While I am at it, I just found some fresh pictures which appear to be of CXF 4....
   
   I've archived the snaps on my website for future reference, thought you might want to do the same.
   
   Chuck

   Hi Chuck
   
   Just to bring you up to date, as you might remember my AC 428 Register only ever started out as a first rough draft list, the original aim being to just get something up and running as a temporary stop gap. Since then Andy Shepherd has very kindly offered to help fill in some more of the blank spaces which is obviously fantastic all round, after which I assume it could become the Club's on-line Register as they have all the original Thames Ditton records.
   
   Unfortunately however due to the pressure of my own work and knowing for certain that I won't always be able to spare so much time in the future, I'm now having to limit things to just new arrivals and the odd updates.
   
   On top of which my dear other half's patience is now starting to wear dangerously thin ! [:D]
   
   Cass [:)]
   (I'll try to get your two last additions up next time round....)

   
   Ah yes, Andy as pictured below [lower right with a ravishing Fastback]:
   [image]http://home.xnet.com/~cmaddox/motorin/frua/200107_practical_classics/800/p_43_800.jpg[/image]
   
   That's good news all around!  Thanks for the update Paul [Cass]
   
   --  Chuck

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428 Frua Forum / Fastback for sale at Hurstpark
« on: November 14, 2007, 18:14:49 »
quote:
Originally posted by Classicus
quote:
Originally posted by cmaddox3
   [Thought you might want to grab it for your files....or perhaps you already were aware of it...

   Yep - see your quote of my original post above this pic.
Ok, hopefully the other pictures I found [the more side view and interior] of NUJ 14 as well as CFX4 were of more interest...
   
   Cheers!
   
   --  Chuck

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428 Frua Forum / Fastback for sale at Hurstpark
« on: November 14, 2007, 17:05:41 »
While I am at it, I just found some fresh pictures which appear to be of CXF 4:
   
   
   
   
   [Where can I source a couple of these little badges?!?!?]
   
   From this webpage:
   http://djnasty.free.fr/evenements/retromobile_2006/index.htm
   [First three snaps]
   
   I've archived the snaps on my website for future reference, thought you might want to do the same.
   
   --  Chuck

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428 Frua Forum / Fastback for sale at Hurstpark
« on: November 14, 2007, 16:41:00 »
quote:
Originally posted by cmaddox3
   
quote:
Originally posted by Classicus
   
Top pic - Query No. 5). CF ? Fastback Reg. NUJ 14 as per the "Quick Reference List" on the Register.
   Bottom pic - CF 57 Fastback Reg. PNB 909 J as per the "Quick Reference List" on the Register.
   
Hi Cass,
   
   I just found another picture of NUK 14 on this page:
   
   http://www.pictures-of-cars.com/AC.htm
   
   
   [Is it just me, or do I see a little chin box on the nose trying for more fresh air for the Radiator?]
   

   
   And I just found these additional picture [almost certainly of the same Fastback] on a different page:
   
   http://www.diseno-art.com/shows/2006_nec_classic_car_show/image_56.html
   http://www.diseno-art.com/shows/2006_nec_classic_car_show/image_57.html
   
   Which indicates the photos were taken at the 2006 NEC Birmingham Classic Car Show...
   
   --  Chuck

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428 Frua Forum / Fastback for sale at Hurstpark
« on: November 14, 2007, 16:31:18 »
quote:
Originally posted by Classicus
   
Top pic - Query No. 5). CF ? Fastback Reg. NUJ 14 as per the "Quick Reference List" on the Register.
   Bottom pic - CF 57 Fastback Reg. PNB 909 J as per the "Quick Reference List" on the Register.
   
Hi Cass,
   
   I just found another picture of NUJ 14 on this page:
   
   http://www.pictures-of-cars.com/AC.htm
   
   
   [Is it just me, or do I see a little chin box on the nose trying for more fresh air for the Radiator?]
   
   Thought you might want to grab it for your files [or perhaps you already were aware of it]...
   
   Cheers and Good Hunting!
   
   --  Chuck

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428 Frua Forum / New [to me] Pics of "AC 427 Frua Convertible 1968"
« on: November 14, 2007, 16:15:18 »
Howdy,
   
   During one of my periodic searches for AC 428 Frua information on the web I located this webpage:
   
   http://myforddreams.blogspot.com/2005/05/ac-428.html
   
   [image]http://photos1.blogger.com/img/65/5031/640/AC_428_Frua_cabriolet.jpg[/image]
   
   There isn't any text with a specific Chassis number or owner history to accompany the page or picture...
   
   So does anyone wish to claim credit/ownership?
   
   Inquiring minds want to know!
   
   --  Chuck

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428 Frua Forum / Draft list of AC 428 Fruas known to date.
« on: November 13, 2007, 21:11:40 »
quote:
Originally posted by Whachuwant
   
CFX 22 is alive and well in California.  LHD, auto, with Minilite wheels from factory.  Original gold paint, original black leather.  The 428 was sold to a man in Holland, I purchased it from his estate after his death, and imported it to the USA.  The engine was rebuilt, balanced and blueprinted by the late Ak Miller, who raced Ford-engined specials up Pike's Peak.  Very few miles on the car, I forget what the odomoter says.
   

   
   I'm assuming Fastback?  In any instance, It's great to hear of another survivor, and one in the USA to boot!
   
   Greetings from the Chicago Suburbs, home to CF 7, and welcome aboard!
   
   --  Chuck

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428 Frua Forum / Scans of AC 428 Frua Articles & Ad's...
« on: November 13, 2007, 21:07:31 »
New Arrival:
   7 September 1968 Motor Magazine:

   
   
   
   
   [when I first opened the magazine upon opening the mail packet, it literally opened to this page.  An amazing coincidence!]
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   Scans of various sizes are located via this directory:
   
   http:// http://home.xnet.com/~cmaddox/motorin/frua/19680907_motor/
   
   Unfortunately, the magazine fell apart as I was scanning it.  Perhaps if there is interest at a later date, I can scan other sections [perhaps portions which include the GT-40 pictured on the cover]
   
   --  Chuck
   
   P.S. Sadly, this post concludes my current holdings of scans.  I do have one other item which may be of interest on it's way to me, but it will take some time to get to me.  I'll post it when it becomes possible...  --  Chuck

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428 Frua Forum / Fastback for sale at Hurstpark
« on: November 13, 2007, 19:35:31 »
quote:
Originally posted by Classicus
   
Top pic - Query No. 5). CF ? Fastback Reg. NUJ 14 as per the "Quick Reference List" on the Register.
   
   Bottom pic - CF 57 Fastback Reg. PNB 909 J as per the "Quick Reference List" on the Register.
   

   
   Cool!  Thanks Paul!
   
   I'm not typically much for silver cars, but the silver on CF57 is stunning.
   
   --  Chuck

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428 Frua Forum / Fastback for sale at Hurstpark
« on: November 13, 2007, 03:47:14 »
quote:
Originally posted by Classicus
   
quote:
You may recall CF 57 was sold just seven months ago, also by Hurst Park - so she did not stay long with that owner long. Great car and the price has certainly appreciated.

   Do you know how much she sold for originally ?
   

   
   Ok, which one is CF57?
   
   
   
   
   Both pictures are on the HurstPark Website...  [They've got Silver AC Frua's comin' and goin'!]
   
   --  Chuck

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428 Frua Forum / Scans of AC 428 Frua Articles & Ad's...
« on: November 10, 2007, 21:42:02 »
New Arrival:
   July 2001 Practical Classics:
   On your Marques: The 100-year history of the legendary British car builders AC...
   

   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   Scans of various sizes are located via this directory:
   
   http://home.xnet.com/~cmaddox/motorin/frua/200107_practical_classics/
   
   
   --  Chuck
   
   P.S. Still more to come!  [wiggles eyebrows]  --  Chuck

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