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Cobra (Thames Ditton) Forum / Info for a newbie
« on: July 21, 2015, 16:34:24 »
This car is clearly a AC 289 Sport with a 3,2,1 drop down dash. This one is described as an 'early' 289 Sport in Mill's book. Notice it has a glove box lock like the ones used in leaf spring cars while the later AC 289 Sports show the type handle used on coil spring cars.
   Perhaps there is an early/late difference in the dash layout? [?]
   
   

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Cobra (Thames Ditton) Forum / Info for a newbie
« on: July 21, 2015, 16:07:38 »
COX6126 was sold without an engine and it breaks the rule having a 3,2,1 flat dash.
   

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Cobra (Thames Ditton) Forum / Info for a newbie
« on: July 21, 2015, 16:03:37 »
quote:
Originally posted by rstainer
   
The central instrument layout is, I believe, the key. If it’s 3, 2, 1 (from top to bottom) the dash has a drop-down centre. If it’s only 3, 2, the dash is flat bottomed.
   
   All road-going leaf spring cars and all 289 Sports coil-spring cars had, I believe, a 3, 2, 1 arrangement with drop-down centre dash when originally made; all 427s had a 3, 2 arrangement with flat-bottomed dash. But I could be wrong.
   
   RS
   I'd say this one breaks the 3,2,1 rule ;-)
   
   

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quote:
Originally posted by Cobra Ned
   
A couple of things strike me: the car is RHD, yet it has the Shelby "Powered by Ford" badges on the side. These were not used on the COB/COX cars in the 60's. In addition, the location of these is incorrect, as they are directly over the side vents. The car also has later Lucas parking lamps, like those found on late 427 cars. Again, these were never used at the factory on the 60's COB/COX cars. My guess? It is a newer reproduction.
   

   
   And the wipers park on the wrong side. [;)]

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quote:
Originally posted by B.P.Bird
   
Well I know how well they work on 5K rims, but maybe the 6KJ of the Mk II would be too wide? These are quite narrow tyres, as I said they do look period correct.
   
   

   Section Width   8.3" or   209mm for XWX 205/70 VR15 and 7.68" or 195mm
   for the Blockley 205/70 VR15
   Overall Diameter for XWX's is 26.5" or 669mm, for the Blockley's 26.38" or 670mm

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Originally posted by B.P.Bird
   
Yes I have had the 205 70 VR 15 Blockleys on 2033 for a couple of years. They fit the original 5K rims and look period correct. So far shewing very little wear and performing brilliantly wet or dry. A tyre worth considering for Ace and G'hound on 15" wheels as well as early Cobra.
   

   
   Why not on later 289 Cobras?

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Cobra (Thames Ditton) Forum / Info for a newbie
« on: July 09, 2015, 15:11:07 »
quote:
Originally posted by Morgy
   

   
   Price and history on COB 6120 COB 6155 and COB 6124
   
   

   
   Do you mean COB 6055? The last AC 289 Sport was COB 6127.

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Cobra (Thames Ditton) Forum / Continuation Daytona Cobra
« on: June 08, 2015, 19:06:24 »
quote:
Originally posted by 72twink
   
I knew this would come up at some point, so while I was having a look over it the Brands Masters meet took this ......
   
   
   
   (CSX2604)
   

   
   In this case, a 'new' CSX number was used by McCluskey not an 'old' original roadster number. [:o)]

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quote:
Originally posted by Cobra Ned
   
A shot of 6003 from '88 shows a rear-view mirror mounted at the same spot on the driver's door, but it is a different style. Still ... that's an uncommon place to mount a mirror.
   

   
   Yes, that is an uncommon location. Only really works if a convex mirror is used

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Cobra (Thames Ditton) Forum / -
« on: October 21, 2014, 05:33:49 »
quote:
Originally posted by TLegate
   
**** ***
   

   Trevor, You truly are a great wordsmith [:D]

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quote:
Originally posted by nikbj68
   
It did mine too, Trevor! [xx(]
   
   Thanks, Robin, and for everyone else, here`s the FiA Appendix K pdf document, you will need to scroll down to page 61(of 85!).
   

   
   The actual page number is 265 [8)]

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Cobra (Thames Ditton) Forum / Cobra Barn Find?
« on: August 13, 2014, 05:43:08 »
Look at the orientation and location of the wiper wheel houses. They should each be located inboard of the bonnet latches.
   
   I call this a 'bitsa' =^)

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Originally posted by aaron
   
Why restore the hell out of it now the car is kept in a climate controlled environment ? Enjoy the car for what it is. Restoring the car wont make it worth anymore than what people think it is worth now.
   

   
   Aaron, It would appear that you do not speak TREVOR-NED. It can be a strange language. [:o)]

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Originally posted by Laurence Kent
   
I am not trying to denigrate Pete Brock's design or Shelby American's strong role in the development of the Daytona coupes, but to trumpet them as "BUILT IN AMERICA", all-American heritage cars, is a bit over-the-top.  After all, it is an undisputed fact in the world of automobilia that a vehicle gets its identity from its chassis...regardless of who rebodied it. All of us on this website know who built the chassis and in what country. We also know that CSX stood for "Carroll Shelby EXPORT". I think most of us also know that a fellow called John Tojeiro in the land of Shakespeare and Newton, designed this chassis and sold the rights to AC, in Thames-Ditton, south of London.  Furthermore, it is common knowledge that the Daytona coupes' bodies, while designed by Brock, were built in Italy. While a lot of Shelby engineering and racing experience went into the Daytonas (the reinforcing bracing that made the car handle even better, etc), to just conveniently ignore its non-American antecedents is historical "revisionism".
   

   Just to add a little clarity;
   The body for CSX2287, the first coupe, was built in the USA. The others were bodied in Italy. They were built on bare chassis, they were not "rebodied."
   It is accepted that the 'C' in CSX does not stand for Carroll ;-) Following that theory, the COX, COB would stand for Carroll and of course they do not.

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Originally posted by SJ351
   

   
   My friend is becoming a bit disillusioned with it all and beginning to think he might just as well buy a Kirkham or possibly a Mk1V and save a lot of money. However, he will persevere for the time being. As I have said before, I do pity anyone trying to purchase a Cobra and relying on published information alone. In many ways it does I think de-value the truly original cars - greater transparency again would help these owners realise full value when it is time to sell.
   

   Yes, buying any 'collector' car requires a lot of homework. Just reading published information will not do it. If there is serious interest in a certain original Cobra, be sure to at least contact the Registrar for the latest information on the car.
   As to your question about transparency, how would you suggest that information be garnered? Not all owners want the negatives known about their car [;)]

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