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General Discussion / Re: Happy Christmas
« on: December 24, 2023, 11:44:41 »
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428 Frua Forum / Another unidentified 428 Frua convertible at AC Heritage...
« on: November 05, 2023, 16:46:07 »
I guess I'm a glutton for punishment, but here goes again...
I came across these webfind photos of an unidentified 428 Frua convertible at AC Heritage/Brooklands Cars Ltd. in June 2021. The car is RHD, blue with black interior, with blacked-out wire wheels. It doesn't match any of the cars in my files, so I would appreciate some help identifying its chassis number. My best guess is CF11, one of the "missing" 428s.
(photos by Roy Cousins)
I came across these webfind photos of an unidentified 428 Frua convertible at AC Heritage/Brooklands Cars Ltd. in June 2021. The car is RHD, blue with black interior, with blacked-out wire wheels. It doesn't match any of the cars in my files, so I would appreciate some help identifying its chassis number. My best guess is CF11, one of the "missing" 428s.
(photos by Roy Cousins)
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428 Frua Forum / Which AC 428 Frua at Pure Opulence London...?
« on: November 02, 2023, 00:08:39 »
I came across this photo of a maroon/black RHD 1968 AC 428 Frua convertible, registration no. UPO 773F, on the website for Pure Opulence London. Does anyone know which chassis number this car is?
I don't have a corresponding car in my files, i.e., on that matches this reg. no., year of manufacture, colour scheme, or that has matching dual wing mirrors. My best guess is CF5, one of the "missing" cars.
The DVLA record for this reg. no. is:
Vehicle Details
Vehicle make: AC
Date of first registration: January 1968
Year of manufacture: 1968
Cylinder capacity: 7016 cc
CO₂ emissions: Not available
Fuel type: PETROL
Euro status: Not available
Real Driving Emissions (RDE): Not available
Export marker: No
Vehicle status: Taxed
Vehicle colour: MAROON
Vehicle type approval: Not available
Wheelplan: 2 AXLE RIGID BODY
Revenue weight: Not available
Date of last V5C (logbook) issued: 25 July 2019
I don't have a corresponding car in my files, i.e., on that matches this reg. no., year of manufacture, colour scheme, or that has matching dual wing mirrors. My best guess is CF5, one of the "missing" cars.
The DVLA record for this reg. no. is:
Vehicle Details
Vehicle make: AC
Date of first registration: January 1968
Year of manufacture: 1968
Cylinder capacity: 7016 cc
CO₂ emissions: Not available
Fuel type: PETROL
Euro status: Not available
Real Driving Emissions (RDE): Not available
Export marker: No
Vehicle status: Taxed
Vehicle colour: MAROON
Vehicle type approval: Not available
Wheelplan: 2 AXLE RIGID BODY
Revenue weight: Not available
Date of last V5C (logbook) issued: 25 July 2019
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428 Frua Forum / CFX10 for sale through Oldtimer Galerie Toffen, Switzerland
« on: October 28, 2023, 11:50:06 »
FYI -- CFX10 is currently for sale through Oldtimer Galerie International GmbH in Toffen, Switzerland, where it will be offered at their Gstaad auction on Dec 29, 2023. No word on asking price or pre-auction estimate.
This particular fastback is equipped with an automatic transmission, has a brown interior, and is painted red with an unusual set of white Le Mans stripes.
For more info, see: www.oldtimergalerie.ch/en/73/23/?oid=65&lang=en#/detail/ac-428-frua-1969/31972
This particular fastback is equipped with an automatic transmission, has a brown interior, and is painted red with an unusual set of white Le Mans stripes.
For more info, see: www.oldtimergalerie.ch/en/73/23/?oid=65&lang=en#/detail/ac-428-frua-1969/31972
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428 Frua Forum / Which 428 Frua fastback did Rob Walker own...?
« on: October 20, 2023, 14:11:26 »
AC Heritage (Weybridge U.K.) is currently restoring an AC 428 Frua fastback that had been converted into a 427 Cobra roadster around 40 years ago.
They claim this car was previously owned by Rob Walker, but I can't find any information that he ever owned a fastback. The 428 Frua convertible that Walker once owned (CF14) still exists in its original form, and was offered for sale on Bring a Trailer back in Aug 2023.
Does anyone know which CF chassis "Cobra" is being restored by AC Heritage? Which 428 Frua fastback did Rob Walker own?
See photos of the "Cobra" restoration here: www.instagram.com/p/Cygu1t4olXk/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
CF14 on Bring a Trailer (DNS): www.bringatrailer.com/listing/1968-ac-428-frua-convertible/
They claim this car was previously owned by Rob Walker, but I can't find any information that he ever owned a fastback. The 428 Frua convertible that Walker once owned (CF14) still exists in its original form, and was offered for sale on Bring a Trailer back in Aug 2023.
Does anyone know which CF chassis "Cobra" is being restored by AC Heritage? Which 428 Frua fastback did Rob Walker own?
See photos of the "Cobra" restoration here: www.instagram.com/p/Cygu1t4olXk/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
CF14 on Bring a Trailer (DNS): www.bringatrailer.com/listing/1968-ac-428-frua-convertible/
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Cobra (Thames Ditton) Forum / Re: Press Photograph on ebay
« on: June 28, 2023, 14:44:41 »
The car in the photo has two fuel fillers, an interesting detail.
My best guess is that it's RS5026 which had filler caps on both rear fenders, was painted a light colour, and produced around the time this photo was published.
Can anyone confirm which car it actually was?
My best guess is that it's RS5026 which had filler caps on both rear fenders, was painted a light colour, and produced around the time this photo was published.
Can anyone confirm which car it actually was?
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Cobra (Thames Ditton) Forum / Re: Is this an original Cobra? And if so, can anyone identify its chassis number?
« on: June 11, 2023, 23:43:33 »SunDude,
Do you know the car’s VIN (car number in AC terms)?
RS
'fraid not. But it's not a CSX or COX car, after all.
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Cobra (Thames Ditton) Forum / Re: Is this an original Cobra? And if so, can anyone identify its chassis number?
« on: June 11, 2023, 14:55:02 »
UPDATE: I've been informed that this is a very convincing aluminum-bodied replica, not an original CSX or COX car.
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Cobra (Thames Ditton) Forum / Is this an original Cobra? And if so, can anyone identify its chassis number?
« on: June 10, 2023, 22:51:26 »
These webfind photos were taken yesterday (June 9, 2023) in Amsterdam. Does anyone recognize this particular Cobra?
It's road registered in Belgium with the license plate 1 OYE 782.
Is it an original CSX or COX Cobra? If so, can anyone identify its chassis number?
I've poured over the SAAC Registry and my own files, but am stumped.
The fuel filler cap is wrong, but so many of the other details seem right. Painted wire wheels. Rack-and-pinion steering. Smiths gauges. Weathered leather seats. etc.
Thanks for your help, Brian
It's road registered in Belgium with the license plate 1 OYE 782.
Is it an original CSX or COX Cobra? If so, can anyone identify its chassis number?
I've poured over the SAAC Registry and my own files, but am stumped.
The fuel filler cap is wrong, but so many of the other details seem right. Painted wire wheels. Rack-and-pinion steering. Smiths gauges. Weathered leather seats. etc.
Thanks for your help, Brian
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Cobra (Thames Ditton) Forum / Re: Which is the real AK02 factory prototype...?
« on: March 19, 2023, 12:06:23 »
oops, can someone move this post to the correct subforum for me? or delete it altogether, as I found my answer on the Club Cobra forum
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Cobra (Thames Ditton) Forum / Which is the real AK02 factory prototype...?
« on: March 18, 2023, 13:03:36 »
There are two, maybe three, different cars on the interwebs claiming to be the Autokraft MkIV factory prototype "AK02". Can anyone here clarify which is the real AK02, and what is the story behind the others?
*****
In Jun 2012, the Arts & Revs dealer in Luxembourg offered a blue "AK02" (since sold). This car matches the 2009 ACOC registry entry for AK02: it's painted blue with black leather interior with a carbureted 427 engine. The dashboard layout and steering column are non-standard for both a Cobra and a MkIV. The shock tower upright is stamped "AK02". Reported mileage was 9,700. A DVLA check of the registration number (GRT41T) says the car was built in 1978 and first registered in 1979, which doesn't match either the Shelby American or ACOC registries (1982 build date).
https://www.artandrevs.com/car.php?id=76
In Jun 2016, the Dorotheum auction house in Salzburg Austria sold a red "AK02" equipped with a Roush Ford 351 motor. This car matches the 2008 Shelby American club registry entry for AK02, and looks to be the car once owned by forum member Emmanueld. The interior resembles the productionized version of the MkIV. The shock tower upright is stamped "AK02" and there's a correct-looking AC chassis plaque on the footbox. Reported mileage was 27,746.
https://fahrzeuge.dorotheum.com/en/l/1708273/
In Apr 2019, the Exoticars dealer in Gold Coast Australia advertised "AK02" on Hemmings and the Club Cobra forum. This car resembles the Luxembourg car, but has notable differences such as the Weber-equipped engine, riveted hood and hood scoop, side pipes, side marker lights, dashboard and steering wheel. There are no photos of the chassis number, but the Autokraft logo is visible on the firewall. Reported mileage was 10,590.
http://www.clubcobra.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=7357&cat=all
*****
In Jun 2012, the Arts & Revs dealer in Luxembourg offered a blue "AK02" (since sold). This car matches the 2009 ACOC registry entry for AK02: it's painted blue with black leather interior with a carbureted 427 engine. The dashboard layout and steering column are non-standard for both a Cobra and a MkIV. The shock tower upright is stamped "AK02". Reported mileage was 9,700. A DVLA check of the registration number (GRT41T) says the car was built in 1978 and first registered in 1979, which doesn't match either the Shelby American or ACOC registries (1982 build date).
https://www.artandrevs.com/car.php?id=76
In Jun 2016, the Dorotheum auction house in Salzburg Austria sold a red "AK02" equipped with a Roush Ford 351 motor. This car matches the 2008 Shelby American club registry entry for AK02, and looks to be the car once owned by forum member Emmanueld. The interior resembles the productionized version of the MkIV. The shock tower upright is stamped "AK02" and there's a correct-looking AC chassis plaque on the footbox. Reported mileage was 27,746.
https://fahrzeuge.dorotheum.com/en/l/1708273/
In Apr 2019, the Exoticars dealer in Gold Coast Australia advertised "AK02" on Hemmings and the Club Cobra forum. This car resembles the Luxembourg car, but has notable differences such as the Weber-equipped engine, riveted hood and hood scoop, side pipes, side marker lights, dashboard and steering wheel. There are no photos of the chassis number, but the Autokraft logo is visible on the firewall. Reported mileage was 10,590.
http://www.clubcobra.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=7357&cat=all
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428 Frua Forum / Re: FYI ~ CF64 for auction at Bonhams Goodwood, Sep 17, 2022
« on: September 24, 2022, 13:32:51 »
SOLD for £128,800 including buyer's premium
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428 Frua Forum / FYI ~ CF64 for auction at Bonhams Goodwood, Sep 17, 2022
« on: September 07, 2022, 01:33:23 »
No affiliation with seller...
CF64, a 1971 AC 428 Frua Coupe, is scheduled to cross the auction block at Bonhams Goodwood Revival event on Sat, Sep 17, 2022. The car is being offered without reserve, and the pre-auction estimate is £60,000-90,000.
See: www.bonhams.com/auction/27523/lot/326/1971-ac-428-coupe-chassis-no-cf64-engine-no-1126-rskr/
CF64, a 1971 AC 428 Frua Coupe, is scheduled to cross the auction block at Bonhams Goodwood Revival event on Sat, Sep 17, 2022. The car is being offered without reserve, and the pre-auction estimate is £60,000-90,000.
See: www.bonhams.com/auction/27523/lot/326/1971-ac-428-coupe-chassis-no-cf64-engine-no-1126-rskr/
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428 Frua Forum / Re: AC 428 EFX chassis for sale
« on: August 02, 2022, 12:16:35 »
John Hurlock has since acknowledged that M.G. Wright was Jock Wright, but he and his father Charles continue to insist that AC Cars never built the eight EFX chassis in question. The "conversation" about this on Facebook has been quite nasty at times, too.
Hi, just to clarify, my father, MG Wright was Marcel Graham Wright commonly known as Jock Wright.
He worked at AC Cars post war as Service Manager and also Manager at the Casino Hotel Taggs Island.
He then became Sales Manager when Jock Henderson retired, with Assistant Manager Keith Judd.
He retired in July 1977.
Best wishes
Graham
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Cobra (Thames Ditton) Forum / Re: Was this CSX2016 on display at 2022 Zandvoort Historic Grand Prix...?
« on: July 20, 2022, 22:20:06 »
Thanks for this confirming information, Robin.
Brian
Brian
Sundude,
The ACOC Cobra register records this as the original CSX2016, imported into the UK in 2011 by Peter Bradfield.
ACOC Cobra register appendix 2.1 (Replica Leaf Spring Cars) records a replica CSX2016 made circa 2012 reg 111 JX "Constructor unknown. Fast-back hardtop, short bottom-hinged boot, cut back doors, six-point roll cage, Rose-jointed, 6.5"/8.5" Halibrands, side vents, rack & pinion. FIA HTP."
Both cars have the same last known owner.
The SAAC Register has further public domain detail.
RS