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Ace, Aceca & Greyhound Forum / Re: Ace Overriders
« on: September 13, 2018, 20:45:33 »
Barrie,

I’m glad that the picture of my car provides the proof necessary to validate that the early style over-riders were used on the Aceca (with bumpers) up through at least AEX521...most likely through AEX525, as you speculate. I’m still deciding whether to go back to the old style over-riders or not. It’s hard to make the decision, since the current look of my car (with the latter style over-riders) is the only way I’ve know my Aceca for the last 50 years of family ownership.

I know it’s hard to tell what bracket is used in the 1955 picture of my car, but I still believe it’s the same as the one used for the latter style bumper over-rider system (since the bumper sits further from the car than what would be allowed by the use of the old style ACE over-rider bracket). In either case...based on the picture you posted showing the backside of the old style over-rider, I think it would be fairly simple to mimic the tube bumper clamping mechanism used for the latter style over-riders by simply fabricating a steel bar to span the two bolts on the backside of the over-rider and then weld a threaded stud to the bar at the midpoint of the cutaway in the over-rider. This would allow any Aceca owner with the latter style bumper/over-rider arrangement to simply swap out over-riders with no difficulty. I’ve attached a picture of the latter style over-rider and clamping mechanism for the tubular bumper so people can see what I’m talking about.

I hope this helps secure more orders to make your project viable.  :)

Regards,

John

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Ace, Aceca & Greyhound Forum / Re: Ace Overriders
« on: September 11, 2018, 04:46:42 »
I’ve attached a photo of AEX521 (ex works August 27, 1955) as she arrived at the Port of Chicago in October of 1955. (btw - The photo is a press photo, and the man taking delivery of the car from the ship captain is Charles E King the first owner of my car...who also became a distributor of AC cars in Chicago)  As you can see, it appears that my car was delivered with the old style over-riders (which are no longer with the car)...and dual tube bumpers.  FYI - Zooming into the photo you will see that the outline of the over-riders look a bit fuzzy on one side. This is because the original press photo has been touched up with some sort of marker presumably to wipe out reflective glare from the flash photography off of the chrome bumper.

If you go to the following link, you will see photos (dated Oct 1955) of an Aceca at Thames Ditton with the later style over-riders.
   http://www.johnrossmotorracingarchive.co.uk/index.php?twg_album=AC+Cars&twg_show=RB+336+-+AC+Factory+-+October+1955.jpg&twg_standalone=true#0

These two bits of information fit well to bookend the possible switchover date of September 1955 for the over-riders, as suggested by Barrie.

Another interesting thing to note is a comparison of the photo of my Aceca (AEX521) with Luke’s Aceca (AE503). It appears AE503 has a single tube bumper (vs. the dual tube bumpers on my car) and utilizes a different bracket than my car. It also appears that the over-riders on my car are held on by a bracket with a single bolt (not two like on the ACE). From what I can see of the bracket in the photo, it appears to be the same one that is currently supporting my bumper with the later style single bolt over-riders. Is it possible that there was a sub-bracket to transition from the two bolt connection to a single bolt, or maybe a sub-bracket (not visible in the picture) that went around the tubes to attach to the two bolt arrangement?   

I hope this information helps to decipher the development of the over-rider/bumper arrangement on the Aceca.

Regards, John

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Hi Jeff,
   
   I have a PDF copy of a 1965 ACOC parts interchange list that I can send you. It will help you ID other cars that used many of the same parts in period allowing you to go to Moss or other British parts suppliers. Send me an e-mail and I'll get you a copy. Aceca289 at aol.com
   
   John

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Ace, Aceca & Greyhound Forum / Aceca for sale
« on: February 21, 2015, 06:28:28 »
And here's what the car looked like before the restoration.
   
   http://bringatrailer.com/2013/03/12/1955-ac-aceca-project/

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Ace, Aceca & Greyhound Forum / Aceca. How many keys?
« on: November 27, 2014, 06:33:41 »
Ignacio,
   
   Is the key that fits into your door (but won't open it) heavily worn? My original Wilmot Breeden key marked...you guessed it...FA 501 is so worn it sometimes doesn't work on the door and the rear hatch without a lot of fussing around. In fact, I cant get it to open the rear hatch at all any more. Luckily my father made a duplicate back in the late 60's which operates the door and rear hatch with no problem.
   
   This begs the question to everyone: Where do I go to find blanks for the original Wilmont Breeden keys?
   
   John

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Ace, Aceca & Greyhound Forum / Aceca. How many keys?
« on: November 26, 2014, 07:28:06 »
Ignacio,
   All the locks on my Aceca (AEX521) are all keyed the same. My ignition key has FA 501 written on the face of the lock. I had the rear hatch lock apart the other day and recall that the the back side was marked 501 as well.
   
   I hope this helps.
   
   John

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Ace, Aceca & Greyhound Forum / History of AEX542
« on: October 17, 2013, 07:39:39 »
Hi Austin,
   
   Interesting story...thanks for sharing the details. The stories behind our cars is a great part of what makes the collector car hobby so enjoyable.
   
   PS  - Good choice on the color you used to paint your engine block. Black was the standard color for Ford V8s in the early 60s...you probably did the research before painting...if not, you lucked out.
   
   John

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Ace, Aceca & Greyhound Forum / History of AEX542
« on: October 15, 2013, 08:00:40 »
Austin,
   
   How many of the interior bits did you get in the deal? If I recall correctly from the e-bay listing, there didn't appear to be a lot to work with.
   
   John

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Ace, Aceca & Greyhound Forum / Rear screen trim
« on: October 12, 2013, 18:11:34 »
Hi Lew,
   
   Chrome wasn't used to fill this gap. A clear plastic 1/2 round section was used that is filled with a chrome colored substance. I assume this material is still available somewhere in the UK. It's the same material that is used on the front windshield. Ron Leonard (USA) or Brian Eacott (UK) would probably be able to source it for you.
   
   John

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Ace, Aceca & Greyhound Forum / Aceca Tool Tray Queries
« on: October 12, 2013, 17:45:02 »
Hi Lew,
   
   You'll find the "search" button at the top of this page under the "AC Owners Club" banner. Hidden in plain sight. [:D] Happy searching...it's a great way to quickly access old posts.
   
   John

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Ace, Aceca & Greyhound Forum / Aceca Tool Tray Queries
« on: October 09, 2013, 22:22:29 »
Hi Tony,
   
   I’m the one who provided the model for Greg to use to compile his tool kit. I also drew up some detailed sketches of the two “crude” spanners (for adjusting and bleeding the brakes) for another member to use to replicate these tools, and he was successful in reproducing them. Here’s a link to the forum thread from a few years ago…lots of pics to look at.
   
   http://www.acownersclub.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1158&SearchTerms=tool,tray
   
   As Luke mentioned above, the tool tray differed from the AC powered Acecas vs. the Bristol powered ones.  What type of engine do you have in your Aceca? I mention this because there was another thread regarding an ACOC member on your side of the pond who had reproduced the Bristol tray and had some available in 2009. Try this link:
   
   http://www.acownersclub.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1205&SearchTerms=tool,tray
   
   If you have any trouble with any of these links, just click the search button on the top of the forum page and type in “tool tray”…you’ll get a few more forum posts on the subject as well.
   I see that my sketch of the brake bleeder spanner doesn't show up on the forum post noted above. If you want, I can send you PDF scans of these sketches…I’ll e-mail you via the Forum link to see if you’re interested.
   
   Good luck on your project! [:)]
   
   Best,
   
   John

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Thanks Keith & Gerry for staying on top of this endeavor though all the ups & downs! Your time and effort to deliver a quality product is appreciated. I look forward to receiving my cap...whenever it arrives.[:)]
   
   John
   AEX521

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General Forum / Original or long time owners
« on: August 04, 2013, 00:13:29 »
I believe there are a large number of AC owner’s who have either owned their cars for years, or their cars have been in the same family for years. My Aceca has been in our family since 1968 or 45 years…and in my garage since 2000…and likely to remain in our family for many more years![:D]
   
   John AEX521

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Ace, Aceca & Greyhound Forum / gear knob
« on: October 08, 2012, 06:05:59 »
Lew,
   
   Nice looking car! Thanks for sharing the photos. Good to see that you're making progress.
   
   John

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I apologize if I hijacked this thread with the photos of my axle failures. I thought that providing photos of the stock arrangement might help people visualize the inherent problems that have led to the need for a new solution and prompt some thoughts to help solve Rob’s concerns. Nigel Winchester’s axle design looks like a good way to resolve this situation and I hope the solution is as simple as adding a castellated nut and split pin as can be seen in the photo of the stock axle and mentioned in one of the earlier posts.
   
   In my case, Robin suggested that the hub might have been loose on the shaft. Does anyone know if there’s a need to re-torque the axle nuts after some particular mileage interval (with the stock set-up)? I certainly want to maintain good axle health on my Aceca going forward.[:)]
   
   Thanks,
   
   John

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