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AC Owners Club Forum => Mk IV, Superblower, CRS and other Continuation Cars Forum => Topic started by: REV on May 05, 2009, 00:42:24
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One of the things I'd like to do with my car is remove the leather rolled edge around the cabin. The back section definitely and the front maybe. My car is now 26 years old and the rear section of the leather is looking very old and tired.
I dont suppose anyone has a picture of what is under there? I'm sure that there isn't anything insurmountable but it would be really nice to know before I take it apart that there are no surprises! If anyone has done the job please let me know!
As a further thought it would be great to see pictures and ideas of what everyone has done to there cars as improvements. I'm sure that there would be loads of interest as the Cobra is not only the most replicated car, but the MKIV must also be one of the most altered cars. Dash, roll bars, engines, wing mirrors, braking systems, and general upgrades. You only have to look at Peter from Germany (dkp-cobra's postings) to see that we all love to lay hands on cars and see whats under the surface. His must have been the most viewed posting in AC owners club website history.
So what are the "Upgrades" that you've made that you feel have been worthwhile, and maybe not such a good idea! I think that it would promote real discussion and maybe enthuse us all a little. Humour extremely welcome.
For me my biggest upgrade or improvement has been fitting a 60's dash. Now I do understand that this may to some be akin to defiling a grade 2 listed building, but for me its how the car should have been made in the first place. You can also see my roll bar in this pic. I also realise that loads of cars have had this done, but for me it was just the start of my journey, and I'm sure thats the case for many others as well......
What do you think?
Nick [:)]
http://s616.photobucket.com/albums/tt244/ak1023/?action=view¤t=4thMay2009053.jpg
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Hi Nick,
quite nice dashboard. I see that you also have modified your doors. How did the roll bar fit with the tank or don't you have the tank behind the seats?
Peter
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Hi Nick. The ole` Ford switches are not to everyone`s tastes, and certainly your MkIII style dash looks the business. BUT where are your heater controls and radio going to fit?! [;)]
For some reason the link in your post doesn`t work, so here`s the pic:
(http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt244/ak1023/4thMay2009053.jpg)
Please tell me...does your garage floor really have the same racing stripes as the Cobra? Nice touch!!![8D]
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Peter,
The tank was modified and is still in the same place. It now has two sleeves running through it and a notch out of the rear to accomodate the rear bar. I think it both looks good and I feel a little happier with it there. I'd sooner not put it to the test though.
Nik,
As for the heater..... you are joking arent you! Getting rid of the heat has been one of the main problem with my car. It was always coming at you from the footwell and the tunnel. We've clad both the underside and the inside with heat shielding of the highest order. Thats brought the heat down to what is now an acceptable level, but before this it was virtually unbearable. My left leg was always very warm! I have to say that I presumed this was the case in all MKIV's. So to answer your question, the heaters gone! Has everyone had the same issue?
With regard to the radio I'll explain that with another couple of pics, needless to say theres no radio either! It just sings its own tunes! [:D]
(http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt244/ak1023/cobraexhaust2.jpg)
(http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt244/ak1023/cobraengine.jpg)
As for the garage floor...... The anorak in me came out, I just sort of got carried away! [:I]
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Brilliant stuff! I was of course joking about heater & radio (hence the [;)] ) but I`m SERIOUSLY impressed by the garage floor! Top Anoraking! [8D]
Can`t tell from this angle, but have you thermo-wrapped the headers? Either that or ceramic coating seem to offer significant reductions in temperature.
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Nik,
I did know you were joking, but I've had a weekend of people asking inane questions that I just answer without giving them a second thought. It can be bizzare what they ask about the car. You end up not even thinking, you just answer and smile.
With regard to the heat, as I say it seems under control now, so no need to bandage the headers so far, but it is an option.
And the garage floor was at one point the nightmare of my life! To cut a long story short I did it to completion once before this. looked brilliant but the paint didn't key. Large patches came away all over. I then spent two weeks of evenings with a blow torch and a scraper on my hands and knees taking the first lot of paint off. Trust me any praise given to that floor is seriously welcomed! My wife still dines out on that one!
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Originally posted by ak1023Nik...the garage floor was at one point the nightmare of my life!...My wife still dines out on that one!
Well, If the garage floor is good enough for `Er indoors to dine on, then that`s the highest praise indeed! [8D][8D][:o)]
D`you know what though...I kind of like the 'patina' on the leather, but hey, it ain`t my Car(more`s the pity!).
Incidentally, is the chassis plate original, I don`t recall seeing one like that before. Nice.
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Hi Nik,
I like patina on leather (I wouldn't redo the seats) but I think someone has added some kind of connollising refurb stuff on it years ago and its now cracked and looks shabby. Its also torn in one place, and where the leather meets the body has got full of wax. The whole thing just needs either redoing or replacing. The cars now 26 years old and things just need tlc.
The plate was on it when I bought it, so the answer is I don't know. I've never seen enough cars to be a judge, but it certainly doesn't look "homemade". I think the car was the 1st ever UK car registered. AK1018 is numbered before it, but was delivered in 1984 not sure whether or not its left or right hand drive. AK1021 was LHD but also says its a UK car (Motor show) but wasn't registered until 1985. If you think back to 1983 the UK was in the depths of recession and Brian Anglis would have been very pleased to sell it. He'd probably have rolled out the red carpet for the first buyer! It would be interesting to know what plates are on the cars around that date and how they compare to there build sheets.
The engine differs from the build list as well as it says that its a 351c on the register, but it is a 427 side oiler. Steve Grays worked on the car and says that the chassis was built to take the engine and has not been modified so I can only think it was built for the 427, but who knows.
As with all AC's a little intrigue adds to the fun, but can also make initial ownership baffling! I once asked Trevor to give me night school lessons on Cobra history and recognition. Short nose, long nose, light weight, super blower, fia, CRS, 289, coil spring, leaf spring etc.. Hadn't got a clue. When I first bought the car I just thought I'd bought an old car. How wrong could I be! I've still only seen a few others at AC nationals, and they all vary a little in the build over the years.
Ho Hum!
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Hi Nick
Nice to see the ol' Money Pit in such fine fettle. But clearly all your hard-earned £££s went on your garage floor instead!!
I'm just back from a weeks trip on the Cobra 'Battleground' Tour, held amid the wet and rainy mountain roads of Virginia, and I can vouch for the fact that a Cobra does not need a heater, no matter what the weather is doing outside!! (I'm now in full Cobra-anorak mode and will be for some considerable time - even missing my flight home pales into insignificance, though anyone wanting the full lowdown on the retail opportunities to be had at Charlotte airport, feel free to ask....)
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Originally posted by ak1023
... I think the car was the 1st ever UK car registered. AK1018 is numbered before it, but was delivered in 1984 not sure whether or not its left or right hand drive. ...
According to the invoice, which is dated June 26th, 1984 and signed by B.A.Angliss, AK 1018 was registered as A 493 UYY (the business paper has the hand painted AK AUTOKRAFT logo). I guess the registration was a formality as the reference to the dealer mentioned in the ACOC registry. After the sale the car immediately went to Germany and still is there. It is a lhd and the chassis plate is different to that shown on the picture.
Michael
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Originally posted by ak1023
... And the garage floor was at one point the nightmare of my life! To cut a long story short I did it to completion once before this. looked brilliant but the paint didn't key. Large patches came away all over. I then spent two weeks of evenings with a blow torch and a scraper on my hands and knees taking the first lot of paint off. Trust me any praise given to that floor is seriously welcomed! My wife still dines out on that one!
Nick,
do it always first time right.
The garage floor might look like this:
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/1984MkIV/DSC03933.jpg)
.. as well as your bathrooms! This is a suggestion for the walls:
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/1984MkIV/DSC03935.jpg)
To please your wife, the kitchen might look like this:
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/1984MkIV/Bild3.jpg)
If your wife doesn´t like checkered flags in the kitchen, try this:
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/1984MkIV/DSC03936.jpg).
And don´t forget the outside look of your garage. My suggestion are bricks:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/79/Starting-line-at-the-Indianapolis-motor-speedway-1985.JPG).
The ultimate and final styling suggestion:
(http://www.ksl.com/emedia/usersubmittedpics/0/96/9623.jpg?filter=ksl/pgallery)
My wife is well informed concerning my styling wishes, but I hope it´ll take some time until these wishes become reality (and I hope she does, too[:D])!
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Personally I think Larry Miller took things one stage too far when he departed. (He probably had a car in there as well) I do hope C$ doesn't have a copyright on that particular colour scheme.....
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This could just go to far!
(http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt244/ak1023/checker.jpg)
But then again your style idea of check patterning is growing on me!!!!
(http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt244/ak1023/checkbikini.jpg)
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I have to say I'm really warming to this checker patterned theme now.....
(http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt244/ak1023/checkeredmechanic.jpg)
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This forum gets style ...
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It`s a shame your Cobra isn`t blue with white stripes...
(http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/23000/Shelby-Cobra--23357.jpg)
...Have we strayed a little off topic here?
This thread was about leather...
(http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5454/51268272ei1.jpg)
...And it`s Cobra related!
Quote:"Sienna Miller as The Baroness in her new movie G.I Joe which is due to be released next year.
The 26-year-old plays an intelligence officer for evil arms dealing organisation COBRA."
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Those headlights don't look original to me..... Do you think they're upgrades!!!!! [:p]
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OMG!!! What happens when that leather gets wet?????[:D]
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Originally posted by ak1023 Those headlights don't look original to me..... Do you think they're upgrades!!!!! [:p]
I bags changing the bulbs![B)]
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I'd like to have a look at her chassis build plate.
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Wonder what sort of power units fitted? My bet would be a long stroke, small bore.... but I guess we'll just have to check that chassis plate! [8D]
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I wonder what´s going on here?! I just showed pictures of my bathroom and my kitchen to you. Any reason to go wild on that?
Well, to be honest, I´m pleased to notice that some simple pictures of black and white floor and wall tiles let the imagination of the AC folk go wild [:D].
I´m waiting for more styling suggestions impatiently ...
How about this?
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41ZSWhM3BbL._SL500_AA280_.jpg)
Or that?
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3367/3305736326_5de7fd0ea0.jpg)
Or that?
(http://www.hollywoodtoysandcostumes.com/cached/15UA83150.jpg)
For the kitchen this would be the right stuff:
(http://jmsewing.com/product%20images/Sports%20Theme%20Valances/Checkered%20Flag%20Curtains.JPG)
And a new bikini for your wife or where the hell is this thing good for??
(http://mygarter.com/images/newgartershots/race-flag-red.jpg)
This also would be a perfect gift for a Cobra driver´s wife:
(http://images.doba.com/products/441/GEMAF__Images__Photo_Medium_BOPR3165A_1.jpg)
This might be the right thing when you drive your Cobra:
(http://www.bikerempire.com/catalog/images/z116.jpg)
... combined with these lovely earrings?
(http://www.thenitrogarage.com/files/1706327/uploaded/CHECKERED%20FLAG%20EARRINGS.jpg)
... and for the cops ...
(http://images7.cafepress.com/product/126847737v6_350x350_Front.jpg)
The stylish Cobra driver always is well dressed with a tie:
(http://freenet-homepage.de/hutwelt/ebay/326789.jpg)
For your daughter. If you don´t have a daughter, use it for your Yorkshire terrier!
(http://www.bowsbybeth.com/catalog/images/flags.jpg)
If you nor have a daughter, neither a Terrier, take this for your horse:
(http://www.equinetextiles.com/images/bin/1467.jpg)
You like to make music not only with your Cobra?
(http://static.zoovy.com/img/andreasinc/-/G/vj_chk1.jpg)
... and a fitting guitar pick ...
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b273/magscrafts/july07/070721racingpicknecklace2.jpg)
The perfect office in retro style:
(http://maydecembersecrets.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/checkered-flag-ceiling-300x214.jpg)
Well, don´t you think this fits perfect to your office?
(http://www.fordcollection.com/webimages/large/large_S77010.jpg)
Let´s come back to where we started. This guy realisied the floor tile idea:
(http://www.gilroydispatch.com/photo/img/f3779/Pride-Classic-Mustang-CR.jpg)
And a car cover?
(http://i7.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/bc/22/940c_2.JPG)
Last not least, what do you think Tamara Ecclestone wears (or doesn´t wear?)?:
(http://www.gillout.com/images/stories/67553_0167593.jpg)
Only one question is remaining: What do the Mistresses of Mr. Mosley wear ... ???
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2347/2315149470_313c4f0992.jpg)
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YOU WIN!!!!!!!!!
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My brain hurts.......
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Did get a bit off topic...a little like Craigs list exotica according to the am news here across the pond.
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Checkering was ok for a while, but I really am going off it now. But its still nice to have something across the bonnet of a cobra. [:D]
(http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt244/ak1023/bonnet.jpg)
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I bet you wouldn't let the luvverly Ms. Patrick do that to your car?! Might be fun pushing the bottock-shaped indentations out though :-)
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She'd have to take her shoes off........ Well maybe she wouldn't! [:p]
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Disgusting! I've heard about folk like you - I'd lock up me daughters if I had any..... ;-)
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Originally posted by ak1023 Checkering was ok for a while, but I really am going off it now...
Sorry to do this to you, BUT at this year`s Monaco Grand Prix,
Check is still 'in'.
(http://pix.crash.net/motorsport/360/PA592309.jpg)
(Thanks, Crash.Net (http://"http://www.crash.net/Motorsports/babes/1/39/photos.html"))
AND when I saw this T-shirt, I thought of you!
(http://slickattire.com/images/mustang_detail.jpg)
(From Slick Attire (http://"http://slickattire.com/mustang_shirt.htm"), Picture depicts 3 colour options)
Shame it`s a Mustang, but the thought was there, eh?
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It's a sobering thought that the totty in the process of putting an interesting range of dents in the bonnet (hood) above has just finished third in the Indy 500. No sexist comments from me! (or at least until I can think of one...)
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From my experience Monaco is always worth a trip!
Here the correct Cobra Crew outfit:
(http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/data/3/19328racetrack10.gif)
Michael
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Nick, sorry to be a bore, but I'll tell you what is under your dash roll, or to be exact, how the roll is held on, front and rear.
A strip of leather of sufficient width has a narrow strip of 16 gauge aluminium glued along one edge, as is a strip of I think, 1/4" foam. This ally strip is drilled every few inches, as is the front/rear cockpit perimeter tube. The ally/leather is then rivitted to the car with 1/8" csk rivits.
The leather at the ends will be pared back to allow these ends to be finished without any excessive ridges. The leather will then be pulled around and glued to the undersides of the scuttle and tonneau panel.
If you want to do away with these rolls, the most serious work which you might have to carry out is a spot of filling and repainting.
Peter
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back on track!
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Well done, that Man!
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Oh Dear...... I'm going to have to come clean. I really wasn't expecting to get back to topic, how the hell did that happen!!!!
About 3 days after posting I realised that I knew what was there. On the wall of my study at home (Its a Temple to cars actually), I have a set of photos that were allegedly previously on display in the factory. Some of the pics I've seen in factory brochures before so I tend to think it could be right. In the middle of the pics is one of a car being sprayed. If you look closely at it you can see that its a rolled edge at the back of the cabin. This answered my question and tends to point to the fact that not only am I an anorak, but I'm an air head as well!
(http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt244/ak1023/may2009066.jpg)
(http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt244/ak1023/may2009067.jpg)
(http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt244/ak1023/may2009068.jpg)
I sent the car for painting the very next day and its now completed. Its currently at the trimmers having the carpet redone on the bulk head behind the seats. Should be back early next week.
Guys I'm really, really sorry. The whole thing was on a roll and I didn't want to be the one that ruined it. It just made an interesting light read with lots of great pics!!!! It was also sooooo educational (I never knew who Danica Patrick was 2 weeks ago.... I most certainly do now! [:D]).
So all in all no harm done, but....................
It is really amazing how some people can become obsessed with Check!
(http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt244/ak1023/checker-tattoo-is-bloody-weird-but-.jpg)
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AK1023,
Yes, those are the "factory photos" that were used in the first (blue cover) "AC MK IV" color brochure. The factory photos were done by a photographer "Etienne Bol" in SW Londo. I have a large framed color print of a BRG MK IV in the fall leaves parked in front of the banking at Brooklands. This picture was a gift from Brain Angliss and has Bol's card on the back. I would venture that the negatives are still on file.
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Sir.
Whilst I applaud your efforts in wishing to enhance and cherish your vehicle, I must register my displeasure regarding your:
- Causing well-intentioned, like-minded enthusiasts to be drawn into a thread clearly intended to veer tangentially into near indecency as you asked a question to which you already had a full and concise answer.
- When said discussion was returned to topic, you did nothing to maintain it`s course, indeed the opposite.
- Hanging of pictures in a haphazard manner gauranteed to cause offence to the eye.
Unless there is some historical reason for the positioning of these photographs, I must insist that they are correctly levelled and gapped, otherwise I will have no option but to arrange for confiscation so that I can display them in my lounge in a manner that pleases my eye VERY much.
Yours, etc.etc.
Nik.B.J.B esq. DFS, B&Q, at the bar.
[:D]
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In Switzerland, I saw a tool they use to hang up pictures on the wall. It is relatively unknown in other countries such as Italy, France, Belgium, and - of course - the UK. I even doubt, that there is a word for it in british language:
(http://blog.misto.ch/wp-content/whiteboard_wasserwaage.png)
The swiss guys even use similar items to ensure the correct fit of their accessories:
(http://www.art-injo.ch/images/mmm/katalog/P03.106.2-Wasserwaage3.jpg)
Maybe, Nick used this british model. Nick, did you?:
(http://www.uibk.ac.at/exphys/museum/pict/big/wasserwaage.jpg)
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It`s a MkIII bubbleometer. [:)]
Maybe time for a new Bubble (http://"http://www.antiquetools.co.uk/toolbox.php?category=Parts%20and%20accessories#60")?:
(http://www.antiquetools.co.uk/product_images/0060.jpg)
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May I remind you to come back to the topic ...
Here is the italian version of the checkered theme:
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/1984MkIV/DSC00173.jpg)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/1984MkIV/DSC00175.jpg)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/1984MkIV/DSC00188.jpg)
[:p] Really hot, the cars ...
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In reply to Rick, thanks for that information. Your photo sounds very special. If you ever move to a very, very little house and haven't got room for it PLEASE let me know. I have another wall thats spare!
In reply to Mr. Bagshaw, I'm afraid what appears to be a slightly off centred and unlevel set of pictures is actually a modern and enlightened way of doing things. For those blessed with teenagers in there houses (I have 4) it will not be a new concept, but for those who haven't come in contact with such beings it can only be refered to as "Chaos Theory Life Style". In our house we have all embraced fully this revolutionary new way of living. Clothes, shoes, books, dogs, ipods and all manner of other belongs are liberally scattered at random with no apparent reason throughout the home. Odd shoes can be found in the hall, bedrooms garage or toilet. Towels appear totally at random in all manner of places. Things go missing for weeks and then reappear without explanation. Windows break of there own accord, and if you go away for a few days with your wife suddenly a horde descend and drink all of your beer! These pictures are just a small part of this invigorating way of doing things. It has even spread to this thread and thus the reason it keeps heading off at tangents! Remember it please "Chaos Theory Life Style"
As for Michael, you seem to have embraced the chaos Theory with both arms, I can believe most things, but Fiat Puntos! As I said Check can become obsessive! With regard to the long yellow thingy, I have to say I can't recall seeing one for sometime in our house, but hey, chaos theory could be playing its part here as well!!!!
And to appease all of you that thought I was going off topic on purpose....... hasn't it been hot today! [:D]
(http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt244/ak1023/hot.jpg)
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Hmmm - not quite hot enough.........
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I have to say I'm learning a lot from this thread - how to paint the garage floor, hang photos etc. I've even used some of the photos to suggest a change of wardrobe to my wife.
I have to say hasn't warmed to the idea yet. Her response was to recommend I find out who supplied the coffin with the Shelby stripes and place an order while I could still speak.
I would like to know if this thread is leading up to a recommended dress code for the Diamond Jubilee in July ?
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Dress code comin' up - brace yourself....
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Trevor,
Are you suggesting that MK IV owners will be required to be photographed in checkered "banana hammocks"????
Geez, now I gotta spend the rest of the day trying to get that image out of my mind.................
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Oh Rick, I really wish you hadn't said that.
And anyway, it wouldn't leave enough space for the sponsor's logos[:D]
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As you might have anticipated, I have some suggestions realizing that topic is changing to dress code.
It comes from Buffims:
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/1984MkIV/Scan10001b.jpg)
The suggestions will come up soon as quiz!
Michael
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Sorry, Buffums, not Buffims. Doesn´t matter anyway. Chapter 11 ...
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O.k. Question number one:
Who is the Top Model in the correct sports man outfit?
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/1984MkIV/Scan10002c.jpg)
Note the checkered flag (the main topic is always mandatory to me!!!)!
The right answer will be rewarded with the next question, which concerns the correct female outfit! Of course the next question will be related to a more exciting picture!
Michael
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I think I've been hijacked! [:)]
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My guess would be Daniel Sexton Gurney from Port Jefferson, Long Island,
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quote:
Originally posted by ak1023 I think I've been hijacked! [:)]
Hehehe... No kidding. [8D] And how did the main topic change from 'Leather cabin edging' to 'Check?'
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Originally posted by MkIV Michael Note the checkered flag (the main topic is always mandatory to me!!!)
[:o)]
Another vote for Dan 'For President' Gurney, do we get our prize now? [:D]
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quote:
Originally posted by cobham cobra
My guess would be Daniel Sexton Gurney from Port Jefferson, Long Island,
The "real American hero" DSG did it all; Indycar, F1, sportscars, endurance, sedans and NASCAR!! And he won in all of them! Plus his efforts at building cars for himself and his teams right up to the last "AAR Eagle/Toyota" Indycar which while not a great sucess, was one of the prettiest cars in the field.
His "Alligator" motorcycles and other projects keep him busy to this day. He always has time to sign stuff and great unanounced vistors in Santa Ana. A lot of current "drivers" could learn a lot about public relations and who really generates the money that racers get.
http://www.allamericanracers.com/home.html
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Damn, where do I get me one of them fine Buffum jackets for the 60th shindig? I'm a Man on the Move as well (though maybe that's related to a dodgy vindaloo...)
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Well done, my dear Cobra friends! It is Dan Gurney! (Besides, if you count the posts made to the checkered topic, you will notice that it really is the main topic!)
O.k.! As promised, question number two:
What is the location of the photo session[?] The correct answer is not "paint shop". The question is: Whose paint shop is it?[:D]
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/1984MkIV/Scan10003b2.jpg)
This question is a little bit more difficult. If you don´t get it, i´ll add some more pictures with additional informations.
Don´t forget to show the pictures to your wife, we are still talking about correct Cobro driver´s wife dress code![B)]
Please not the details. It is still the black and white theme!!!
Michael
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Unit 815, Brooklands Industrial Park?
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Originally posted by Mark IV
Unit 815, Brooklands Industrial Park?
Gratulation, you´ve been the only one who was brave and tried an answer! Unfortunately you´re wrong.
That´s why I add some blue to it (still from the same catalogue)! Even this picture would fit to the Brooklands Industrial Park! But it´s another location!
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/1984MkIV/Scan10005.jpg)
Who about you "experts"! Here is the chance to make a complete fool of yourself! This is last but one chance to vote right! (I wouldn´t, because the last picture is even hotter![:)]
Michael
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Begging for another clue here...what`s the year? If fathers` day was Sunday, June 19th, it could be `66, `77 or `83, and I`d guess `77, but who would have that many bodies stacked in `77?????
What was the address of Brian Angliss` 'Cobra Parts'(pre-Autokraft)? Chessington, somewhere!
Am I close? I suspect not, guessing it`s in the U.S somewhere..(Maybe 'Cobra Performance' of Sacremento, California?)
Aha...They must be Shelby`s 'LOST' chassis` that turned up later...(or not, as the case may be![B)])
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Tell me about Cobra Performance, I never heard of them! Bad shot, but you´re getting closer to the solution! To be honest, I don´t know the date of publishing of this amasing flyer!
Other suggestions?
Michael
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the utah boys shop?
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Oh boys! Maybe we should return to the checkered theme. O.k., it´s not that easy, and after the subtle hints now the definite hint!
If nowbody knows the answer I have to think about retiring my AC Owners Club membership!!!
Here it is and it is really hot. But at first Dan Gurney completed:
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/1984MkIV/Scan10002b.jpg)
And now black and white again:
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/1984MkIV/Scan10003b1.jpg)
The picture is not only the solution to the problem of locating the location, but if you mind the item on the left in the background, the answer to the question, why snap-on tools are called snap-on tools![:D]
I could add another question to the quiz: What is wrong on the picture? Because I learned that you are not that good in dissolving quizzes, here is the answer: The flame is too hot to weld aluminium!
Left and right side for your better understanding:
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/1984MkIV/Scan10003b.jpg)
Question: Do you like the outfit of the location and where is it???
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McKlusky's??????
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don't think it is Malta...hoq about concours inc?
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Originally posted by Mark IV
McKlusky's??????
First place goes to the US! http://www.mccluskeyltd.com/hf.html
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Originally posted by 1984MkIV: Tell me about Cobra Performance, I never heard of them!...Michael
It took a while to find, but I quote from an article about Brian Angliss` Cobra Parts company in MotorSport, June 1975:
"...Angliss` biggest customer is Cobra Performance, Sacramento, California, who took over the Shelby Organisation as official Cobra stockists. They can`t obtain many of the rolling chassis parts..., Brian can`t obtain many engine & gearbox parts in England, so there is something of a reciprocal arrangement."
So if this is in ANY way linked to McCluskey,(which as I mentioned the 'LOST' chassis that he was to build up, I feel it is!) I claim the prize of an evening of fun with the Buffums, models, who, on second thought, are probably now older than my mother...[xx(]
So I`ll just take a 'well done, you' instead![;)]
Incidentally, check this quote too:
"...Angliss finds it difficult to put a price on a complete rebuild with all-new parts, but on average it would be about £10,000. On top of that, an original Cobra car/chassis would have to be bought upon which to base the rebuild..." So, about £14,000 all-in then?! [:D]
Good stuff, Michael, thanks for an entertaining quiz.
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Originally posted by 1984MkIV
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Originally posted by Mark IV
McKlusky's??????
First place goes to the US! http://www.mccluskeyltd.com/hf.html
So what did I win??????
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You win everyones sympathy Rick!!!!!
(acually I was gonna say McCluskey but wanted to pretend I had a life.... ;-)
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Originally posted by Trevor Legate
You win everyones sympathy Rick!!!!!
(acually I was gonna say McCluskey but wanted to pretend I had a life.... ;-)
Aren't you supposed to writing or something? Instead you are wasting time posting to slackers like me!
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you win a spot on AL's holiday card list...you;ll certainly treasure that!!!
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Originally posted by Mark IV
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Originally posted by 1984MkIV
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Originally posted by Mark IV
McKlusky's??????
First place goes to the US! http://www.mccluskeyltd.com/hf.html
So what did I win??????
Nothing, because the right answer was McCluskey, not McKlusky![}:)] No, i´m kidding[:o)]. Send your postal adress to CarollShelby(at)gmx(dot)de (note wrong spelling although - to be honest - I doubt if you will notice the wrong spelling taking into account how you spelled McCluskey[:D]) and I´ll think about it. I have a first idea in my mind, but let´s wait and see. Maybe the price will become funny or interesting, but don´t exept anything useful from me[:D]! But mostly the most useless things are the most desirable things, like to burn fuel driving a Cobra!
Michael
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Originally posted by nikbj68
Begging for another clue here...what`s the year? If fathers` day was Sunday, June 19th, it could be `66, `77 or `83, and I`d guess `77, but who would have that many bodies stacked in `77?????
What was the address of Brian Angliss` 'Cobra Parts'(pre-Autokraft)? Chessington, somewhere!
Am I close? I suspect not, guessing it`s in the U.S somewhere..(Maybe 'Cobra Performance' of Sacremento, California?)
Aha...They must be Shelby`s 'LOST' chassis` that turned up later...(or not, as the case may be![B)])
What remains an open question to me is the date of the brochure. If I follow the `66, `77 or `83 track, only `77 or `83 remain, because according to his homepage McCluskey started to restore Cobras in 1969. The Daytona body can be CSX2299, 2300 or 2602, because McCluskey restored these Coupés. CSX 2300 was restored before `83, CSX 2602 after 1990, CSX 2299 not stated (source: "Daytona Cobra Coupés" by Brock, Friedman, Stauffer). Obviously Buffums was closed in 1991 due to financial problems.
Another track is the blue car. I only found one source which claimed that the continuation Cobra´s were build in 91/92.
According to his homepage, McCluskey restored CSX 3012, 3016, 3022, 3025, 3032, 3035, 3039, 3041 and 3043 (and CSX 3034: "3034 was shipped by its fifth owner, Gary Yahnke, to Mike McCluskey for restoration in 1977, during which it was repainted Black.").
3016 is a darker blue. http://www.tenmagallop.co.jp/page009.html
CSX3022: "Wayne: Our car is the much more valuable CSX 3022, an SC Cobra. It was owned by Ron McClure of Pasadena, who had McCluskey restore the car to original specification with medium-riser 427, painted blue with white stripes. The car has been in a number of magazines, like Automobile Quarterly vol 22, number 3, and was the subject of a rather famous David Kimble cutaway drawing which was made into a poster. In the late eighties, McClure had a smash-up with a Cadillac, sued his insurance company, and, I am told, recovered big bucks plus possession of the damaged car. Last owner, as of about 10 years ago, was Drew Serb of Orinda, who had the car restored and painted silver with thin stripes of red, white and blue. Original SC's in restored condition, with original chassis, etc. have got to be worth in vicinity of a million: there were only 54 coil spring Competition and SC Cobras made. I think one is going to auction during Classic Car Race week. Later, buddy. --Patrick
3025: ?
3032: ?
3035: ?
3039: ?
3041: ?
3043: ?
O.k., `77 or `83, who cares. I like the brochure and think it is an funny piece of Cobra history!
Michael
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Originally posted by jbottini
you win a spot on AL's holiday card list...you;ll certainly treasure that!!!
You cheeky bastard!!!!!!!
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Hey!!!! I just noticed that is MY wife in the skivvies!!! Yeah, Morgan Fairchild, yeah, that's the ticket!!!!!!!!!![:D] And the other one looks a lot like Sharon!!!!
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Originally posted by 1984MkIV
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Originally posted by Mark IV
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Originally posted by 1984MkIV
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Originally posted by Mark IV
McKlusky's??????
First place goes to the US! http://www.mccluskeyltd.com/hf.html
So what did I win??????
Nothing, because the right answer was McCluskey, not McKlusky![}:)] No, i´m kidding[:o)]. Send your postal adress to CarollShelby(at)gmx(dot)de (note wrong spelling although - to be honest - I doubt if you will notice the wrong spelling taking into account how you spelled McCluskey[:D]) and I´ll think about it. I have a first idea in my mind, but let´s wait and see. Maybe the price will become funny or interesting, but don´t exept anything useful from me[:D]! But mostly the most useless things are the most desirable things, like to burn fuel driving a Cobra!
Michael
Two "R"s, Two "L"s!!!!!
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Two "R"s, Two "L"s!!!!!
You win again!
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But please remember..................
(http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt244/ak1023/trying.jpg)
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D'OH!!!!!!!!
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Sorry to digress, but just for anyone thats interested I have a pic of the car without the edging on prior to finishing and spraying. I know its not on topic, but......
(http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt244/ak1023/cobracabinedging.jpg)
Heres another one of the workshop staff.....
(http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt244/ak1023/builder.jpg)
Turned out nice again!!!!
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I bet I can't post the word 'grinding' on here...... :-)
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As a health & safety advisor, I feel I should recommend a one-on-one training session to correct the obvious shortcomings in this picture.
Thanks also for the slightly irrelevant and gratuitous photo of the back of a car.
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Dress Code. What would be better to look at than at a Playboy magazine from the sixties? Here the dress code suggestion from the "Master" himself:
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/1984MkIV/DressCodeLR.jpg)
Another suggestion come from Ken Miles. Note the perfect detailing i.e. the six pack body style, the watch, the sunglasses and not to forget the suede shoes.
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/1984MkIV/DressCodeKen.jpg)
For Ken´s dress code a big grin is recommended!
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/1984MkIV/KensSmile.jpg)
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And another Quiz. What was the brand of gasoline, which was filled in Parnelli Jones Cobra, before he won at Riverside.
The Price will be the proof, which gasoline he used!
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Pure???????
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Thanks for contribution to the US and the UK[:)]. It´s not Pure, not Pegasul, I don´t have a receipt[:(]. Any more answers?
Michael
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Gin?
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I thought they only sell Tonic, do they sell Premium as well?
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The "real American hero" DSG did it all; Indycar, F1, sportscars, endurance, sedans and NASCAR!! And he won in all of them! Plus his efforts at building cars for himself and his teams right up to the last "AAR Eagle/Toyota" Indycar which while not a great sucess, was one of the prettiest cars in the field.
I just read that Phil Remington worked for Dan. Is this right? For which period did he work for him?
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I shall attend the anniversary dressed as Ken Miles - I feel it only appropriate
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Originally posted by Trevor Legate
I shall attend the anniversary dressed as Ken Miles - I feel it only appropriate
I just imagine you posing on the bonnet of a Cobra; suede shoes off ...
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Hi Trevor,
I think you have misread the dress code guide, it said "six pack body style, the watch, the sunglasses and not to forget the suede shoes." That does not mean you turn up on the day with a six pack of beer.
I'm sure you already have the watch, the sunglasses and the suede shoes and you also have a little over 38 days to work on the six pack..........see you down the gym then ?
But then again, a six pack of beer may be more useful.
Cheers - John.
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Originally posted by 1984MkIV
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The "real American hero" DSG did it all; Indycar, F1, sportscars, endurance, sedans and NASCAR!! And he won in all of them! Plus his efforts at building cars for himself and his teams right up to the last "AAR Eagle/Toyota" Indycar which while not a great sucess, was one of the prettiest cars in the field.
I just read that Phil Remington worked for Dan. Is this right? For which period did he work for him?
He was with Dan in 1970 when a friend of mine worked there building the Barracuda Trans Am cars. Phil has been with Dan since and has been working still at least part time doing fab work and on the Alligator Motorcycle project.
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He was with Dan in 1970 when a friend of mine worked there building the Barracuda Trans Am cars. Phil has been with Dan since and has been working still at least part time doing fab work and on the Alligator Motorcycle project.
He´s really a great guy. He and Ken Miles transformed the V8 powered AC Ace into a championship car so called Cobra. Modest and down to earth as he is he called it "just a few changes", when I talked to him at SAC.
Any more answers concerning the gasoline brand?
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No answer? I think I have to change the forum! Well, I have to admit, this question was the most difficult! Here is the solution:
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/1984MkIV/ParnelliJonesFuelLowres.jpg)
Note the checkered theme!
Again the quiz master takes possession of my soul: What is historically wrong on the picture (well, the ad was done by one of these promotional monkeys, who have a strange approach to what we call truth!).
Any idea what type of car is in the background?
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Sorry,
when I searched for Parnelli Jones I found something concerning dress code and checkered anything.
(http://www.smilexphotography.com/Parnelli_Jones_Saleen.jpg)
Does anybody know the secret of the meaning of the Route "69" badge?
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Originally posted by Trevor Legate
I shall attend the anniversary dressed as Ken Miles - I feel it only appropriate
Trevor spotted doing his "Ken Miles six pack impression" [8D]
(http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt244/ak1023/sixpack.jpg)
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Originally posted by nikbj68
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Originally posted by 1984MkIV: Tell me about Cobra Performance, I never heard of them!...Michael
It took a while to find, but I quote from an article about Brian Angliss` Cobra Parts company in MotorSport, June 1975:
"...Angliss` biggest customer is Cobra Performance, Sacramento, California, who took over the Shelby Organisation as official Cobra stockists. They can`t obtain many of the rolling chassis parts..., Brian can`t obtain many engine & gearbox parts in England, so there is something of a reciprocal arrangement."
So if this is in ANY way linked to McCluskey,(which as I mentioned the 'LOST' chassis that he was to build up, I feel it is!) I claim the prize of an evening of fun with the Buffums, models, who, on second thought, are probably now older than my mother...[xx(]
So I`ll just take a 'well done, you' instead![;)]
Incidentally, check this quote too:
"...Angliss finds it difficult to put a price on a complete rebuild with all-new parts, but on average it would be about £10,000. On top of that, an original Cobra car/chassis would have to be bought upon which to base the rebuild..." So, about £14,000 all-in then?! [:D]
It´s different to Hi-Performance Motors, isn´t it?
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/1984MkIV/HiPerformanceMotors.jpg)
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PS: Before you order parts for your Cobra, check prices (use phone number which is specified in the ad). I don´t know if the ad is up to date.
Michael
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Damn paparazzi, they got me again...!!!!
Oh SIX-pack I thought you said s*x-pack
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(http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt244/ak1023/perv.jpg)
Still you're in good company! [:0]
(http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt244/ak1023/prince_charles_pervert_small.jpg)
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You guys over there wouldn't REALLY let him be King, would you? I mean, him as "next in line" is just a joke, right? It is a joke, right? Really?
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One is far from amused Mr.Muck. Silence in the Colonies.
Moi - a perv???! OK, fair cop.....
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Originally posted by Mark IV: You guys over there wouldn't REALLY let him be King, would you? I mean, him as "next in line" is just a joke, right? It is a joke, right? Really?
From the country that brought us 'Dubya', whom I quote:
"Let me start off by saying that in 2000 I said, 'Vote for me. I'm an agent of change.'
In 2004, I said, 'I'm not interested in change --I want to continue as president.'
Every candidate has got to say 'change.' That's what the American people expect."
--George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., March 5, 2008...(http://www.cobraclub.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
Glass Houses & stones, Sir. Glass houses & stones...but you CHOSE yours! [;)]
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Originally posted by Trevor 'L*****': Moi - a perv???! OK, fair cop...
He doesn`t JUST take photos of Cobras you know. [8D]
And long may it continue!!!![^][^]
(Throws own hat into the ring!)
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Hmmm, time to consult my lawyer. And I want that screen-saver back young Bagshaw.....
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I don't know how you can critisise poor old Dubya & the US of A when our elected leaders are so terrible. The strain is really beginning to show on dear old Gordon now.................
(http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt244/ak1023/Gordon_Brown_Streaker-1-1.jpg)
What we all need in these times of crises is a hero, someone we can look upto, someone with.......... The Force!
(http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt244/ak1023/charles.jpg)
I think the signs are that he's a man of the people and still wants to Rule.......
(http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt244/ak1023/prince_charles_2004-11-24.jpg)
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Yes, something went wrong in the US; this is the one with the attitude for a winner:
(http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/photos/turn10_image_gallery/images/1515283/500x316.aspx)
(http://www.allamericanracers.com/images/DanGurneyForPresidentS.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3070/2664996283_64cc7f1931.jpg?v=0)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2220/2120325143_3ea0abfecb.jpg?v=0)
(http://www.allamericanracers.com/images/DanGurneyForPresident.jpg)
(http://www.allamericanracers.com/images/DanGurneyForPresidentPin.jpg)
Compare yourself:
(http://www.b12partners.net/mt/images/bushdisaster9kr-1.jpg)
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Ah, but you Brits misunderstand. We ALWAYS make fun of ours, doing it to yours is just a "bonus" for us! And I readily admit that G.W. COULD be a long lost royal.......he has the I.Q. to qualify.......................[:D]
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The Brits have roamed the world for centuries laying claim to just about everything, but....................... (I think I can speak for the whole country here, and without fear of contradiction)
We will in no way take any responsibility (express or implied) for YOUR Mr. G. W. Bush!!!
He Sir, is yours...... Enjoy!
(http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt244/ak1023/bush.jpg)
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From the "neutral" point of view of the guys who lost the war: Both the US and the UK had better times, especially concerning the automotive industry ... [:(]
I´m happy that "we" took over AC (I´m talking about the Mk VI)[:D]!
Michael
(from the country with the best car manufacturers in the entire world)
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I have to say that I can agree you manufacturer the best cars in the world at present. But I can only humbly suggest that the "World Tour" of AC will probably only stop briefly in Germany.
Our Mr. Lubinsky rarely dwells long in one place!
(http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt244/ak1023/lubinsky.jpg)
I wonder what the MKVII's will look like??????
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Originally posted by ak1023I don't know how you can critisise poor old Dubya & the US of A when our elected leaders are so terrible. The strain is really beginning to show on dear old Gordon now.........
And just who voted Gordo in? Not you or me, that`s for certain!
Sorry, no pic, but what about "Jim Clark for Prime Minister"...our response to DSG for President?!
Trevor...That screensaver is mine, ALL MINE!!!!(http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/yay2.gif)
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Trevor...That screensaver is mine, ALL MINE!!!!(http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/yay2.gif)
Nik, where the heck did you hide the most important item of that poor girl - the plum?
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/1984MkIV/FORD_plum.gif)
Michael
(sorry, couldn´t sychronise the swinging)
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Sychronised swinging!!!!!
(http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt244/ak1023/sync.jpg)
And that brings us back to the Black & White theme!
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Now getting concerned about the type of photos appearing here.....
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Originally posted by Trevor Legate
I'm just back from a weeks trip on the Cobra 'Battleground' Tour, held amid the wet and rainy mountain roads of Virginia, and I can vouch for the fact that a Cobra does not need a heater, no matter what the weather is doing outside!! (I'm now in full Cobra-anorak mode and will be for some considerable time - even missing my flight home pales into insignificance, though anyone wanting the full lowdown on the retail opportunities to be had at Charlotte airport, feel free to ask....)
Trevor,
Yes sir, all we needed were two 55 gallon trash bags pulled over the seats to keep the leather dry. [:p]
I had not heard about missing your flight. Did your GPS get wet on the way to NC?
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Greetings Mr.Snake
The trash bags worked well but of course just as I pulled them off Pat Ryan's car the rain fell down - and can you get those things back in a hurry? But driving a Cobra down dirt roads in torrential rain is great fun ... and I thought Dunsfold was wet!
Nah, don't use GPS. I got me a map and it works. I drove to Washington for the transfer to NC (it worked better coming in and not so good on the way home). Due to all them there storms that afflicted the whole area, as we taxied to take off all airspace south of Washington was closed due to turbulence. By the time a new route was sorted, we took off two hours late and I had two hour window to catch my flight home. The plane landed in NC as my one departed....still want to know how my bag got home before I did though....
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P.S. Forgot to say - a CD went in the post to you yesterday (I hope it arrives - seems the one I sent to Ken Gross about two weeks back has not arrived yet!)
Regards to yourself and Penny and I may forgive you for dragging me out there :-) Hope the car is dry-ish now???
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Regarding driving a Cobra in the rain, I think a phrase I recently saw nicely sums up the attitude.
If you're driving a soft-top with the roof up, the storm outside better have a name.[8D]
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Originally posted by Trevor Legate
P.S. Forgot to say - a CD went in the post to you yesterday (I hope it arrives - seems the one I sent to Ken Gross about two weeks back has not arrived yet!)
Regards to yourself and Penny and I may forgive you for dragging me out there :-) Hope the car is dry-ish now???
Trev,
If needed, and my CD arrives shortly, perhaps I can make a copy and forward to Ken. Keep me posted.
A shop-vac and laying the carpets out in the sun for a day worked. There was this strange green stuff on either side of the bottom cushion however.
The car did require a power washer to get all the black gravel out from everywhere!
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Snake Man:
I have Jim Maxwell on the case. Or maybe he's on my case. Sorry to hear about the green stuff. Maybe kryptonite? I hear that a few cars will be dismantled - that's what I call cleaning!
John
Oh the storm had a name alright - several actually.....! Impressive precipitation though :-)
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Oh the storm had a name alright - several actually.....! Impressive precipitation though :-)
Trevor, That might be you behind me?
(http://saacforum.com/galleryc/albums/userpics/10198/Cobras___rain.JPG)
(http://saacforum.com/galleryc/albums/userpics/10198/Cobras_following.JPG)
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Right car, wrong day! That's looking like a Monday to me unless I'm much mistook - I was tucked up nice and dry in the mighty Yukon :-) Which was the only car I could sit in due to my b***ered back. If I'd have gotten into a Cobra you'd need an engine hoist to lift me out!! I was in the car shown above on the Wednesday (sans rain...)
And where were the blue skies and fluffy white clouds you promised me - I want my money back (had I paid any...)
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Originally posted by Trevor Legate
And where were the blue skies and fluffy white clouds you promised me - I want my money back (had I paid any...)
Does this mean you want to return your Official very Limited Edition Cobra Battleground Tour Windbreaker?
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Oh yeah forgot about that. No! Never!! Not even from my cold dead grasp!!! Not even put it on ebay yet ;-)
That will be my stylish clothing of choice to wear at ALL AC events in the future, being the leading figure of fashion like wot I am.
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I thought you were going to the AC Anniversary Dinner dressed as "Mr. Six Pack"?!!!!!!
(http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt244/ak1023/sixpackbbq.jpg)
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Originally posted by Mark IV
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Originally posted by cobham cobra
My guess would be Daniel Sexton Gurney from Port Jefferson, Long Island,
The "real American hero" DSG did it all; Indycar, F1, sportscars, endurance, sedans and NASCAR!! And he won in all of them! Plus his efforts at building cars for himself and his teams right up to the last "AAR Eagle/Toyota" Indycar which while not a great sucess, was one of the prettiest cars in the field.
His "Alligator" motorcycles and other projects keep him busy to this day. He always has time to sign stuff and great unanounced vistors in Santa Ana. A lot of current "drivers" could learn a lot about public relations and who really generates the money that racers get.
http://www.allamericanracers.com/home.html
Here you can watch the beloved Sexton! To be honest what really gets me off is Kenneth Henry J. Miles demonstrating how to spin a Cobra. I also got wowed by the pictures of his four wheel drive.
Before watching the film go to the fridge to pick up some beer. Enjoy!
http://www.cobra-swiss.ch/Movies/Shelby%20goes%20racing%20with%20ford-high%20speed.wmv
Dan as a President would be o.k. if Ken would be elected Godfather of Car Racing!
Trevor, do you remember the sentence "My name is Caroll Shelby and performance is my business". That´s where it comes from!
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"Shelby goes racing with Ford" I have had a copy for over 25 years. And note how Carroll talks about "sport cars" not "sports", but "sport". And DSG thinks the GTs will "Really go at LeMans"........
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Originally posted by Mark IV
"Shelby goes racing with Ford" I have had a copy for over 25 years. And note how Carroll talks about "sport cars" not "sports", but "sport". And DSG thinks the GTs will "Really go at LeMans"........
Is the swiss copy a full lenght copy? Does anybody know other "should have" films from the Cobra era and where they can be sourced?
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I have to say that if we were actually taking a vote for Presidents or Prime Ministers. That this is the man who would get my vote every time.
I had the pleasure of meeting him at a Ferrari race day and he is such a lovely man. And as great a driver as has ever been. A complete Gentleman.
Here he talks about his early career. Enjoy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EQn0tjLxxo
And then:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGl-qL9tvaQ
And then:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPVwW-a_3WI
And for once I'm serious! [:)]
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Can I second that and then some!? But he'd never become a politician of any kind - he's totally honest! Also had the great honour to spend a day with him (and some Scottish guy - Stewart I think he said) standing around on the GP loop at Brands just over a week ago talking about cars, Cobras, more Cobras and proper racing from the days when men were men (etc). A magical day, never to be forgotten - keep an eye open for a future edition of Motor Sport. Or if you're passing through Sweden, a copy of Teknikens Varld.
Sir Jack is the greatest PM we never had. Maybe in another universe, he was! But we're stuck with what we've got :-(
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Mister Sixpack,
don´t bubble, do it. I remember a british Sprinter after winning the World Championship title who stated: "I decided to got to get it and to go for it."
We have many candidates, what we need is a programme for government. Name the party "The Fuel-Head Party" and the programme is simple: Dispose the speed limit on motorways and the tax on fuel. Sure Jack would win with such a programme!
But don´t let anybody know who drove the AC Coupé on the M1 and remove articles like these from the archives:
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(http://www.thecobraferrariwars.com/image/16716590_scaled_96x240.jpg)
Legend has it, that the driver of the AC Coupé brought the speed limit to the U.K.!
PS: Fortunately Porsche and Mercedes had their on test tracks to test their race cars!
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As ever, the legend is totally wrong - those headlines (it was a quiet newsweek) had no influence at all as the ridiculous 70mph limit had already been decided and was well en route to becoming 'law'. Lord Jack of Willment did check and was assured he played no part in such swivel-eyed policies....I love that headline though - where can I order my probe? (can I say 'probe' here?)
Maybe Porsche and M-B did own tracks but Aston Martin didn't. And where was the Aston factory? I rest my case M'Lud
So how do we get this Petrol-Power Party started? Clearly you're prepared to fund it ;-) and I'll be transport minister
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I'd like to be Chancellor Please!
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Or something to do with Foreign Affairs!
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I'e never thought of myself as a political animal before, but..... I could be tempted!!!! [:p]
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That's what I call a Foreign Affair. Or two. Still, we can only dream can't you?
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I think you're diet's working though..... :-)
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Originally posted by 1984MkIV
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Note the checkered theme!
Again the quiz master takes possession of my soul: What is historically wrong on the picture (well, the ad was done by one of these promotional monkeys, who have a strange approach to what we call truth!).
Any idea what type of car is in the background?
To add some Cobra to the topic: I owe an answer to the question, what is wrong on the picture: Parnelli Jones didn´t win in a Cobra Roadster, but in a King Cobra.
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Originally posted by 1984MkIV
And another Quiz. What was the brand of gasoline, which was filled in Parnelli Jones Cobra, before he won at Riverside.
The Price will be the proof, which gasoline he used!
I'm a little confused here..... You ran a competition to guess what petrol Parnelli Jones's car used at Riverside........ Saying that the proof is...... A picture of a Cobra that wasn't there being filled up with Mobil Petrol???????
Errrrr? [:)]
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I don´t know where from the advertising gurus got the picture. Anyhow the statement is made that Parnelli won using Mobil fuel.
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Hi, sorry I wasn't trying to be mean, just thought it was funny.
You can't always believe advertising though!!!!!!
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I think he is a bogus. He doesn't really look like a man who needs karate lessons in order to get what he wants, does he? [B)]
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Sorry to hear about your family 1023 ;-) maybe sell the car? The beard suits you though!
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Trevor you've gone and done it now. I was going to use this one at the ACOC 60th. at the Cobham Hilton. I thought I'd try my luck by the front door.
Never mind I have a new plan that may just get a sympathy vote!!!!
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And if that doesn't work I'll have to disguise myself........
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Have you noticed the three guys in the background are all looking at the woman and completely ignoring me!!!!
Anyway, I've been practicing see what you think!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv5iEK-IEzw
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Does anybody know other "should have" films from the Cobra era and where they can be sourced?
I started a little search at You Tube and was amased, how many old stuff is available in the internet.
The Cobra history started right here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpeR8mrx5h4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p20bbnNIPI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u12ZE6Qj-6Y
Michael
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Try these. They are both informative and fun! The first features Ken Miles & the second Sir Sterling Moss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f-K7TzOe1w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtkoFboR8J4
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Originally posted by 1984MkIV
quote:
Originally posted by 1984MkIV
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/1984MkIV/ParnelliJonesFuelLowres.jpg)
Note the checkered theme!
Again the quiz master takes possession of my soul: What is historically wrong on the picture (well, the ad was done by one of these promotional monkeys, who have a strange approach to what we call truth!).
Any idea what type of car is in the background?
To add some Cobra to the topic: I owe an answer to the question, what is wrong on the picture: Parnelli Jones didn´t win in a Cobra Roadster, but in a King Cobra.
This looks to me to be Ken Miles' 289 at the LA Times GP meeting at Riverside in 1964.
The car in the background is likely to be John Morton's Lotus 23B.
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No it is not John Morton's. John's Lotus had dark wobbly web wheels. The wheels of the Lotus on the picture are either yellow or white.
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Its probably Jim Clarks car then????
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Originally posted by ak1023
Its probably Jim Clarks car then????
No, No !
Jimmy drove a Lotus 30, finishing 3rd in this race.
11 Lotus 23s were on the entry list, but not all appeared. Many of which have a colour scheme different from the one on the photo.
I would think it to be Frank Monise's car, with racing # 44.
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Not to much pics available; this is #44:
http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1964/Riverside-1964-04-26-008.jpg
and Ken in #98:
http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1964/Riverside-1964-04-26-098.jpg
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Originally posted by 1984MkIV
Not to much pics available; this is #44:
http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1964/Riverside-1964-04-26-008.jpg
and Ken in #98:
http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1964/Riverside-1964-04-26-098.jpg
indeed, but both pics are from USRRC meeting on 26 April 1964.
The Mobil ad implies that the photo of 98 filling up refers to the LA Times GP held 9-11 October 1964.
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indeed, but both pics are from USRRC meeting on 26 April 1964.
The Mobil ad implies that the photo of 98 filling up refers to the LA Times GP held 9-11 October 1964.
Sorry, you´re right, I was on the wrong track ...[B)]
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Originally posted by 1984MkIV
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indeed, but both pics are from USRRC meeting on 26 April 1964.
The Mobil ad implies that the photo of 98 filling up refers to the LA Times GP held 9-11 October 1964.
Sorry, you´re right, I was on the wrong track ...[B)]
not the wrong track, just the wrong date [;)][;)]
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My newest acquisitions:
Top (bought at Bikers Classic in Spa Francorchamps from Phil Read):
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Bottom (bought in Brescia (Italy)):
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Midships:
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I`m glad you decided to show the items individually, rather than modelling the ensemble!
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Originally posted by nikbj68
I`m glad you decided to show the items individually, rather than modelling the ensemble!
Right, didn´t want to compromise you with my six pack body style ... (look at earlier posts).
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Rumour has it that Trevor no longer has his six pack!
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You know me too well 1023 - after a couple of weeks lying around the pool in the sarf of France, I now have a tummy as per the above.....
Hope I'm allowed to say such things - I'm outta here. Bye.
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Last weekend I made another acquisition:
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Note Lindner / Nöcker, Sutcliffe and Protheroe on there Jags in the entry list:
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Not in the entry list are Schlesser / Attwood (#99), Vincenzo Arena (Italy, # 100), Bondurant / Neerpasch (#101). #102 dns.
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Arena wrecked CSX 2323 in practice hitting the trees some feet high in the air escaping luckily with a broken jaw and to broken ribs:
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Gardner wrecked the Willment Racing Team car in practice, too.
Schlesser / Attwood won the GT +3.0 class, 23rd overall after having repaired a coil wire on the track and throttle linkage problems. Olthoff / Hawkins were third in GT +3.0 class, 47th overall with a failed wheel bearing. Bondurant / Neerpasch had a race accident in first lap, then a broken shock and finally retired with a broken oil line in lap 12.
In the World Championship GT III class Schlesser / Attwood scored 1.6 points for 6th place, while Ferarri scored 14.4 for the first place in class.
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Intersting is a special Hello to the american and british drivers:
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Sorry:
"Note Lindner / Nöcker, Sutcliffe and Protheroe on their Jags ..."
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How very bizarre, I know entrant #98, Warwick Banks really well. He lives near me and uses the same club bar as a watering hole! Infact we were both at a party in June of another local racing man, Pat Thomas and sat surrounded by historic lotus race cars, and a March Group C car & my Cobra! How very odd that you should post that!
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Originally posted by ak1023
How very bizarre, I know entrant #98, Warwick Banks really well. He lives near me and uses the same club bar as a watering hole! Infact we were both at a party in June of another local racing man, Pat Thomas and sat surrounded by historic lotus race cars, and a March Group C car & my Cobra! How very odd that you should post that!
That´s life. But I think it´s no wonder; we all share the same passion. Say hello to Warwick: Greetings from the "Grüne Hölle". In the Three Litre Plus Class their Jaguar was sandwiched by the two Cobras, which meant a second place in class. However, there were only four cars to finish in this class: "To finish first, you have to finish first".
Michael
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Michael
To finish first ....... First you have to finish.
A Cobra / Jag / Cobra Sandwich is always better to digest than a Jag / Cobra / Jag Sandwich.
As they say " It's the competing that counts" and "you have to loose sometimes to appreciate winning."
Keith
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Originally posted by AC Ace Bristol
To finish first ....... First you have to finish.
As they say " It's the competing that counts" and "you have to loose sometimes to appreciate winning."
Keith
My grandpa always said: "Every thing has two sides: right, left, top, bottom"; in real life things are a little bit more complicated than black and white: the greyscales dominate!
If you have racing blood in your venes (mostly originated by british genes ...), you definetely want to win. That´s where the phrase "second is first looser" comes from. I never competed seriously, but made many seconds and always was angry. I always was close to the first like Fisico was in his Force India last weekend. Not would I say that driving any car is same like driving a Cobra; nor would I say that racing is same like winning ...
On the other hand to struggle with competitors in the midfield is more fun than to be a lonesome front runner ...
Worth noting is that on that last weekend of May 1964:
96 practised,
81 started,
46 classified.
That´s why to bring the car home is a victory in itself!
Michael
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Can´t resist to reopen this topic and post my newest checkered flag favourite:
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Thank you Carroll (and probably Peter) for all that wonderful stuff ...
However, I wonder why there is a snake badge on that red car. Bite drivers a..?
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Originally posted by 1984MkIV
However, I wonder why there is a snake badge on that red car. Bite drivers a..?
I found out it is not a Ferrari, what was my first thought - it´s the "Lone Star" ...
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... and I like this highly motivated guy ...
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Well, another checkered flag theme from "Those were the days":
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/1984MkIV/girls.jpg)
My favourite is the skilled Lady on the picture bottom right. Nice curves .... the car!
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I agree she looks skilled, but most people don't have to take the wheel off in order to reload the CD auto-changer [:)]
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Originally posted by cobham cobra
I agree she looks skilled, but most people don't have to take the wheel off in order to reload the CD auto-changer [:)]
I guess you are not familiar with the right female use of CD´s! What do you think, do they look skilled in IT?
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I may be wrong, but the one on the left looks as if she could be a nuclear particles physicist dealing in , Spontaneous changes from one nuclide to another and nuclear decay, the one one on the right may be a hairdresser????
Just a hunch!
:)
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wrong - they both work on the Large Hadron Collider project! Close, but no cigar (as Bill Clinton would say)
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Oh silly me! Of course they're a couple of Quantum Frontier girls. They run the energy ramp up and supervise the machine’s quench protection system, whilst theorizing an electric perturbation.
And I thought the one on the right was a hairdresser!
[:o)]
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That's the word I was looking for - peturbation!! (or was it hairdresser.....same thing innit?)
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Originally posted by TLegate
Close, but no cigar (as Bill Clinton would say)
Oh my god, is one of the girls Monica Blowinsky?
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Originally posted by nikbj68
... what about "Jim Clark for Prime Minister"...our response to DSG for President?! ...
Well, what do you think about World Champion "Seb" for prime minister? When he was asked what he thought about the fact, that seven German drivers attended the Grand Prix and four or five were in the top ten qualifying, he said: "They should abrogate the speed limits in the other countries, probably then they have better drivers" [8D].
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We only introduced speed limits because Jack Sears said you needed a chance!
:)
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I´m happy to introduce you to new checkered stuff coming from the Earl!
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most important:
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in connection with:
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Thank the Lord for the Earl and for christmas coming soon!
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KER---CHIIIING!
But all in the BEST POSSIBLE TASTE.
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Praise the Lord and pass me cheque book. Gotta keep the old Porsche Turbo serviced....
Actually I contributed to his retirement fund recently when I brought some venison from his Olde Farm Shoppe and have to report is was indeed rather wonderful
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Originally posted by TLegate
Actually I contributed to his retirement fund recently when I brought some venison from his Olde Farm Shoppe and have to report is was indeed rather wonderful
Was the venison hunted down by a car or by a plane?
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Porsche Cayenne - arrived very flat
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Would this be the one? Looks as though it was delivered direct from the track!
http://www.maniacworld.com/deer-vs-race-car.html
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That's the one! Nice in a casserole.....R.I.P.
I was unfortunate enough to have a close encounter with a relative of said critter - he decided that a totally empty straight road (apart from me!) was fine to cross just as I was approaching at about 60-ish. Despite a full-on emergency stop, officer, I clipped his hind leg and it felt like I'd smacked a brick wall! Popped out a headlight and collected a nice bunch of hair in the space twixt light and bumper, enough for several paint brushes - I was out £300 and the deer gave me a very dirty look and wandered off!! I'm only grateful he didn't come through the windscreen or these pearls of wisdom would have been lost forever
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Trevor, do I see a change of tack from you??????
I've noticed lately the advent of Celebrity Chefs like James Martin writing in the paper about their cars, Mustangs, Daytona Coupes, etc., etc..
Are you thinking of getting your own back by going from Motor journalist/writer/photographer to Celebrity Chef????? Do I detect a recipe for "Haunch of Venison a la Trev" fried on the bonnet of a 427 in a pan with 10W-30?
We've had the "Hairy Bikers"... Nigella.... Jamie..... James & Ainsley. Is it now time for "Legate does Leftovers" or "Trevs Treacle Tarts"?
Are we to expect a series of "Muscle Car Master Chef"??????
[:)]
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You've discovered my secret!! Currently hard at work on a new venture entitled 'Nigella Does Roadkill'.
Oh dear, my mind boggled there for a moment....
And I am working on 'Trevs Treacle Tarts' but that has nothing to do with food ;-)
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Chef Ramsey says you've been chopped!!![:D]
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Anyone know 'Chef' Ramsay`s Cobra connection? (Mr. Legate excepted, as he knows ALL!!!!)
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Nothing to do with "Trevs Treacle Tarts" is it??????
:)
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Hehehe... I wish.
Nope... try again!
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I was typing the answer when I saw I've been banned from replying. I'm starting to develop a complex!! (but the clue is PPE20E...)
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Do both Gordon and a Cobra have a Turkey pan?
Or is it to do with giving off hot air?????
Exhaust emissions????
Piece of cake really. ;-)
Still prefered the "Trevs Treacle" answer though!
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Folks, the year is coming to an end. The financial crisis left it´s traces. For all those who have empty pockets or need their money to feed their thirsty beasts, here is a suggestion to save money (very british style, indeed):
The 2011 calendar matches with the one from 1966 (as well as the one from 2010 did with the 1965 calendar); thats why you can pull out your old 66 calendar (yes, one of the Cobra years) and use it again. That´s the one I will use:
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/1984MkIV/Scan10007a.jpg)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/1984MkIV/Scan10008-1.jpg)
I wish you a merry christmas
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and a happy new year!
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Bad weather? No problem to have fun in your Cobra in the dry ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kC0VfWkAbQ