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AC Owners Club Forum => Vintage, PVT & 2 Litre Forum => Topic started by: j9nno on June 11, 2017, 12:48:07
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Just a quick post to say hello.
My son and I have acquired a 1925 AC Royal which is in need of some TLC.
It is a 4 owner car originally sold in Chester and has remained around the Wirral and North Wales all of it's life.
Will post pictures soon
John and Tom Owen
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Reg No. is TU2852
Chassis No. 30820
Engine No. 5725 (Anzani)
Trying to post photo's ?
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John & Tom
Congratulations on your AC project and becoming Members of the ACOC.
A new Comprehensive AC register of all known AC's world wide will go to print within the next few months, If you haven't already registered your AC Royal with Colin Dunn the official "Vintage AC "registrar, his details are on page 6 of the latest issue of ACtion. you need to contact ASAP.
All the registers were last printed in one volume back in 2001, Up to date individual registers are available in the members section of the Club Forum.
Keith
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Hi & welcome John.
I stayed at the George & Dragon in Tarvin and there was a period photo of an AC parked nearby which could be yours!
I'm sure I took a pic of it, will see if I can dig it out for you!
Best of luck with your project, I'm on Anglesey, So hopefully see you around!
Nik.
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John, how wonderful to see the car in 'before' condition.
What is the story behind its state of preservation, when was it last running?
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Welcome to the ACOC and very nice to see a survivor not known to the club - this car isn't on the Vintage register.
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Originally posted by administrator
Welcome to the ACOC and very nice to see a survivor not known to the club - this car isn't on the Vintage register.
The last owner was John Davies who owned the FORD dealership in Holywell ?
Don't know when last run and engine has gone off to local specialist for strip and overhaul. So far so good in that the engine was turning freely and the bores are not lipped. So general overhaul and freshen up should see it sorted though I am looking for a starter motor and don't know what I'm looking for so anyone out there who knows please put me on the right path !
Also the the original carburetor is missing which I guess should be a Claudel Hobson ? Again anyone who knows or can supply let me know.
The car is generally quite sound in that it has been dry stored. All of the main cabin interior has rotted out but the ash frame is generally pretty good all things considered. We have replaced a couple of the cross bracings and the rear wooden fire wall (behind the front seat) with white oak and 6mm ply. This has all been glued and screwed into place prior to lifting body off chassis. Some repair and replacement needed to timber that is chassis mounted under the Dickie seat but overall no major, major rot found.
Already sourced replacement speedo and 8 day clock and just cracking on with the chassis and mechanicals for now. Ammeter (CAV) sent off for overhaul/rebuild but again anyone with a spare/replacement message me. Original colour appears to be Green even though logbook says blue ?
This isn't going to be a concours rebuild. Just planning on an overhaul, tidy up, back on the road and enjoy !
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Originally posted by j9nno
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Originally posted by administrator
Welcome to the ACOC and very nice to see a survivor not known to the club - this car isn't on the Vintage register.
The last owner was John Davies who owned the FORD dealership in Holywell ?
Don't know when last run and engine has gone off to local specialist for strip and overhaul. So far so good in that the engine was turning freely and the bores are not lipped. So general overhaul and freshen up should see it sorted though I am looking for a starter motor and don't know what I'm looking for so anyone out there who knows please put me on the right path !
Also the the original carburetor is missing which I guess should be a Claudel Hobson ? Again anyone who knows or can supply let me know.
The car is generally quite sound in that it has been dry stored. All of the main cabin interior has rotted out but the ash frame is generally pretty good all things considered. We have replaced a couple of the cross bracings and the rear wooden fire wall (behind the front seat) with white oak and 6mm ply. This has all been glued and screwed into place prior to lifting body off chassis. Some repair and replacement needed to timber that is chassis mounted under the Dickie seat but overall no major, major rot found.
Already sourced replacement speedo and 8 day clock and just cracking on with the chassis and mechanicals for now. Ammeter (CAV) sent off for overhaul/rebuild but again anyone with a spare/replacement message me. Original colour appears to be Green even though logbook says blue ?
This isn't going to be a concours rebuild. Just planning on an overhaul, tidy up, back on the road and enjoy !
Car Number is 30820
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I remember the car when it was at the Holywell garage, they also had a small ohc vintage Wolseley, that was in running condition.
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That'll be this one -
(http://[URL=http://s848.photobucket.com/user/j9nno/media/18951179_10209727635606880_1926258632811890016_n.jpg.html][img]http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab43/j9nno/18951179_10209727635606880_1926258632811890016_n.jpg)[/URL][/img]
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It is good to see so many Royals being found and restored, welcome to the club! My own 1926 Royal 'Uncle Alfred' is now in one piece, with mechanical restoration complete, and I have managed to drive him around the village. The next thing to be done is the restoration of the wings and bonnet.
It is here I could do with some help, could some one with an original bonnet top take some photos of it, particularly close ups of the fittings as the bonnet on my car is not original and has no fittings attached?? The sides are the original louvered ones but I want to have a new top made.
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Ok, so I finally found the photo of a framed photo on a hotel wall in Tarvin:
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q113/nikbj68/image_zpshx5yng4d.jpg) (http://"http://s134.photobucket.com/user/nikbj68/media/image_zpshx5yng4d.jpg.html")
...But unfortunately, unless the registration number has changed, it's not yours! Enhancing the numberplate looks like XW 8513 to me:
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q113/nikbj68/image_zpshxlhnh9f.jpg) (http://"http://s134.photobucket.com/user/nikbj68/media/image_zpshxlhnh9f.jpg.html")
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Some 35 years ago when I had to source a starter motor for an Anzani engine, I found that one usually fitted to a Land Rover did the job. Apologies but I can't recall which model.
http://www.comlec.co.uk/pdf/STOCK-MST.pdf
Some years ago, I found Comlec Units very helpful in sourcing a replacement starter in another vintage car. Make sure you give them as much info as possible!
John
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Originally posted by nikbj68
Ok, so I finally found the photo of a framed photo on a hotel wall in Tarvin:
...But unfortunately, unless the registration number has changed, it's not yours! Enhancing the numberplate looks like XW 8513 to me:
Must be a different car then.
Thanks for the info on starters.
Crankcase - I'll get some photo's of bonnet and post on here.
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Thank you John,
As to your starter, it depends on which Anzani you have fitted to your car. I have the big Anzani and all of my electrics are CAV. In consideration of your head and sidelights and the CAV panel on your dashboard I would assume you have the big engine and CAV electrics???
I have just looked at my car and cannot see any numbers on the starter and I am afraid the spares list is not any more illuminating only listing it as '12799 Electric Starter CAV'. The number is of course an AC number as they numbered every part of the car!! I will dig a little further into my archive and see if I can find a model number.
All the best,
Tom
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Originally posted by AC-Crankcase
Thank you John,
As to your starter, it depends on which Anzani you have fitted to your car. I have the big Anzani and all of my electrics are CAV. In consideration of your head and sidelights and the CAV panel on your dashboard I would assume you have the big engine and CAV electrics???
I have just looked at my car and cannot see any numbers on the starter and I am afraid the spares list is not any more illuminating only listing it as '12799 Electric Starter CAV'. The number is of course an AC number as they numbered every part of the car!! I will dig a little further into my archive and see if I can find a model number.
All the best,
Tom
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Hi Tom,
Attached photo of our engine.
Electrics are CAV and we have a 3 wire dynamo.
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It looks like the father and son couldn`t finish the restoration
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1926-ac-royal
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The car is back for sale
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1926-ac-royal-1
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The car is back for sale
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1926-ac-royal-1
Sold for £10,850