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Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on November 17, 2015, 20:29:25: Hello ACOC,

   Newbie here. Great website forum! I have be lurking for a little bit and I finally scored the car I have been after for years. I am pretty excited about my new acquisition and I just want to share my barn find story and also get as much information as I can about my 1957 AC ACE Bristol BEX279. Also I am looking for the original Bristol engine 612D. I have many unanswered questions so I hope everyone can help. I am sure everyone likes pictures, so how do you attach them?

   Thanks,

   Jeff
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: Klassik Metall on November 17, 2015, 20:57:56: Hello Jeff,

   Welcome & congratulations on acquiring BEX279. If you use the search function on the site you'll come across a how to on posting photos. You'll need to setup an album with Photobucket or Flickr ect. first though.

   Regards Luke.
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on November 17, 2015, 21:00:09: Thanks Luke. I was just browsing that area and will have to set an album up with a host website like Photobucket etc.
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on November 17, 2015, 21:02:06: Can I use dropbox?
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on November 17, 2015, 21:06:16: (http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah146/velocityss1985/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/b5cd56fb-9d16-4f8c-a01e-993316b0a270_zpssx4st966.jpg~original)
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: Klassik Metall on November 17, 2015, 21:10:50: I think any web hosting site should work, I use Photobucket as it's pretty straightforward.
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on November 17, 2015, 21:12:02: Is that correct how I posted it above? I can click on the link I posted above and it will bring me to the pick. But looking at the forum rules on posting attachments I don't believe that it is the correct way.
Jeff
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: Klassik Metall on November 17, 2015, 21:15:36: Nope, link doesn't work for me.
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on November 17, 2015, 21:19:54: Hmmm. I will keep working at it. Try now... Just working out the kinks. lol
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: bex316 on November 17, 2015, 21:31:23: Here is the picture in question as well as one of the same car in the 1958 12 hours race in Reims.
   Great that this car with well known period race history has come to the surface after a long time.

   Jerry

   (http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u196/bex316/AC/2015-11-15%2017.10.30.jpg)

   (http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u196/bex316/AC/BEX279%20%20Reims%2012%20hrs%201958.jpg)
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on November 17, 2015, 21:36:20: That is Amazing! That is why I am here is too find out as much as I can about the car and its history. SO the quest has begun!!!! How did you get my pic to post like that?

Jeff
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: AC Ace Bristol on November 17, 2015, 23:49:31: .
   .
   Jeff

   Welcome to the AC Owners Club Forum and congratulations on securing BEX279, a Ace Bristol that has slipped off the radar over the years.
   May I Bold and suggest you Join the AC Owners Club via the Forum and use paypal...[:)]

   Then contact Tim Isles the official ACOC Ace Bristol Registrar, who most certainly has some valuable history on BEX279 in/on the register, possibly written data to complement various period photos.

   Now you have started the BEX279 History thread on this Forum I hope it generates as much information as my thread has on BEX333..

   Various members in UK, Netherlands, Germany and USA regularly exchange data and furnish new material to the respective AC registrars thus helping update and create more accurate history on each of our AC's.

   Good Luck with your Quest to establish a full and accurate history file on BEX279, Please join the ACOC and share your future finds and keep us updated with progress on your restoration project...

   Keith..[:)]
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on November 18, 2015, 00:30:24: Thank you Keith For the information. I just joined the ACOC as suggested as I planned on supporting this great hobby/forum. I also read your thread, and was very impressed with the amount of knowledge on this forum. I will take your suggestion and contact Tim. I just want to follow up with a little more information about BEX279, I have boxes and boxes of parts to sort though and I am sure I will need help identifying things. The history search of this vehicle is very exciting for me to learn about.
Jeff
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: administrator on November 18, 2015, 07:56:44: To post photos:

   1. Open a free account at photobucket.com
   2. Upload your photo - you may need to resize it first. 800 x 600 is a good size ("Document Small" in some descriptions).
   3. Open the photo in your photobucket library and on the right are 4 links. Click on the bottom one (IMG) and it will flash Copied
   4. Paste the link into your Forum post where you want the photo to appear
   5. You don't have to do the next step but if you don't, the link as well as the photo will appear. If you do this you only get the photo: edit the link to delete the parts that are before and after the [img] tags, so the link starts and ends with [img]
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: Louism on November 18, 2015, 08:00:24: Great car indeed...
   Another picture from Reims 12 Hours 1958, copyright Revs Digital Library :

   (http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/911/1s1Zut.jpg)

   Not only BEX279 but also BEX460 and Aceca BE572 have been entered at Reims in 1958.
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: AC Ace Bristol on November 18, 2015, 09:04:54: .
   Louis.

   Great period photo of BEX279 at Reims in 1958..[:p]
   During your research / visit to Revs Digital Library, do they have any other Period racing pictures of AC Ace Bristol's..[?]
   It ceases to amaze me how much information is hidden away in various archives, thanks to the internet many hidden gems are coming to light.

   Hopefully more period photos are published of Aces racing in period and surprise some members that their Ace once raced in UK, Europe and USA.... [;)]

   Keith..[:)]
   .
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on November 18, 2015, 15:04:14: (http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah146/velocityss1985/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/0fe64d5f-5b93-4f3d-9a22-407caf0b6828_zpszdqfmwde.jpg~original)

Success, Thank You Administrator!
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on November 18, 2015, 15:22:34: Now that I can post pictures [:D] I will begin with a little story, and thank you to all that have helped so far. I knew of this car for about 15 years and have been in contact with the owners brother and wife (very nice people) and I have expressed my interest over the years. So the phone call came last week and a deal was reached this past weekend and the car followed me home...(obviously in tow)... Along with many boxes of parts that need to be inventoried. As I progress I will share what I have and don't have. BEX279 was purchased in California in 1964 by the gentleman's brother who I purchased the car from. It was then driven back to New York where it has stayed ever since. The car was taken apart approximately 35 years ago and sat in a barn. Along the way the (long block) being the heads, block and internals were sent off for a rebuild and never came back as the brother had died and no one followed up. That shop is long gone. The dash for some reason were stored at the mothers house and she threw it out many years ago, and she has since passed on. The car was enjoyed for many years through out the 60's and 70's until he believed the car needed a complete overhaul and it was taken apart and left in its current condition. I hope too many parts haven't been lost over time but as I progress I am sure I will look to the forum here for replacement items as these are not very plentiful in the USA. If any one has a shop manual or how I can gain access to one that would be greatly appreciated!!! For the interim the back history of the vehicle is one of my top priorities.

   Thanks to all!

   Jeff
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on November 18, 2015, 15:31:56: (http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah146/velocityss1985/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/0e995f93-d82f-4318-889a-a05a9474588f_zpsb6vv6raw.jpg~original)

My son... lol
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on November 18, 2015, 15:36:20: Parts 1 (http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah146/velocityss1985/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/330124d7-47f0-48a0-8046-73dc70d9cfa3_zpsfssdp4p9.jpg~original)
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on November 18, 2015, 15:56:05: more parts


   (http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah146/velocityss1985/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/698dd03e-8742-47e9-be6d-906a0f3809b1_zpscekpit0t.jpg~original)
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on November 18, 2015, 15:58:23: From 1964 when purchased

(http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah146/velocityss1985/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/cef134b7-4fca-4321-b4ce-4ff1a5cd7a8f_zpsmogtt99c.jpg~original)
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on November 18, 2015, 16:00:26: Another. Anyone know what the paper number on the trunk is?

(http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah146/velocityss1985/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/851aedc0-8ead-43a1-820a-a82f39d11cb6_zpsuils71jw.jpg~original)
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: jrlucke on November 18, 2015, 16:57:27: Great find!

   I suspect that the paper numbers taped to the trunk is a temporary permit to drive across country. It appears that there is also a temporary registration taped to the windshield.

   In the 1960's I was run out of New Mexico on a trip from Denver to Tucson because the temporary registration on my MGB was due to expire at midnight!

   John
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: shep on November 18, 2015, 17:01:07: Hi Jeff. As Chairman of the AC Owners' Club may I welcome you to our Club! I think we are all as excited as you are at the discovery of another Ace with race history. Thank you for joining the ACOC, you won't meet a better bunch of people, who will help you in every way they can. All you need do is ask.The Forum is great for general information and you can tap in to a vast bank of knowledge and information. I love the Ace Bristol, it is fabulous to drive quickly, and makes such a wonderful noise! We wish you all the fun in the world restoring BEX279, which will only be the start of even greater things to come. Hopefully we can meet up at some point, Andy Shepherd.
Check out www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaWH8sUiaaw to give you a taste of what's to come!
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on November 18, 2015, 18:25:55: Shep,

   That video was very cool!!! They were driving those cars really hard. Loved the chicane move!

   Thanks,
   Jeff
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: markn on November 19, 2015, 11:44:39: I may have some parts Jeff. email: markanugent@bigpond.com
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on November 19, 2015, 14:48:00: quote:
Originally posted by markn

I may have some parts Jeff. email: markanugent@bigpond.com



   Sent you an email. Let me know if you have received it.

   Thanks,

   Jeff
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: nikbj68 on November 21, 2015, 11:50:29: Here`s a shot from Keith`s archive, from 1959/60: Bud Anderson keeps ahead of Fred Rediske.

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss149/KeithL333/BEX279/BEX279%201959%20%20Bud%20Anderson%20keeps%20ahead%20of%20%20Fred%20Rediske_zps9ww3pbvn.jpg) (http://"http://s570.photobucket.com/user/KeithL333/media/BEX279/BEX279%201959%20%20Bud%20Anderson%20keeps%20ahead%20of%20%20Fred%20Rediske_zps9ww3pbvn.jpg.html")
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on November 21, 2015, 13:17:53: Is BEX279 in that picture? I know Herb Jones owned the car originally in 57&58. Was it sold to one of the gents in that picture? I heard Herb Jones is alive and well in the USA. I have been trying to get in contact with him. Does anyone have his direct contact information?

   Thanks,
   Jeff
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: AC Ace Bristol on November 21, 2015, 13:38:52: .
   .
   Jeff

   The dark Ace on the left in the picture above is Your BEX279 driven by H Anderson aka... Bud. [;)]

   Picture was taken in 1959 /1960, race circuit and exACt date unknown at present..... Any ideas [?].

   Hopefully Tim Isles the official ACOC Ace Bristol Registrar has furnished you with more details and possibly additional photos.
   When and How long did Bud ... H Anderson own /race BEX279..[?]

   Please post new material as and when received to keep this thread alive.

   Good Luck with the restoration project and your Quest for more History of BEX279..

   Keith..[:)]
   .
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: bbrown on November 21, 2015, 17:54:12: Jeff,

   I have Bud Anderson competing in 3 race meetings with his Ace according to Racing Sports Cars.
   All are SCCA Regional events.

   Wilmot August 9, 1959
   Milwaukee August 16, 1959
   Wilmot August 28, 1959

   Bud also raced a Lotus Eleven and a Ferrari Mondial.

   Good luck with the restoration.
   Bert
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: AC Ace Bristol on November 21, 2015, 21:19:43: quote:
Originally posted by nikbj68

Here`s a shot from Keith`s archive, from 1959/60: Bud Anderson keeps ahead of Fred Rediske.

   (http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss149/KeithL333/BEX279/BEX279%201959%20%20Bud%20Anderson%20keeps%20ahead%20of%20%20Fred%20Rediske_zps9ww3pbvn.jpg) (http://"http://s570.photobucket.com/user/KeithL333/media/BEX279/BEX279%201959%20%20Bud%20Anderson%20keeps%20ahead%20of%20%20Fred%20Rediske_zps9ww3pbvn.jpg.html")


   .
   .
   .
   Found the following write up of race 1 to complement the photo of Bud Anderson being pursued by Fred Rediske both in Ace Bristols.

   .
   Sunday's Race # 1.

   The first 20 lap Race was scheduled to start at 13.00hrs Sunday. The rain came at 12.45 hrs and by the time things got underway at 13.00 we were having a nice comfortable downpour.
   Infact, it was more like a monsoon!. Bob Spooner repeated his performance of Saturday and had the lead before the pack got to the
   first turn, with Jim Jeffords close behind in the purple corvette.
   By the time Jeffords got his car through trcky north turn, Spooner was going away heading for the wiggle.

   Bruce Schattschneider came up fast after an excellent start and on the second lap passed Jeffords who was having troubles keeping the car going in the right direction in the rain.

   Ralph Durbin , who had been going like gangbusters in the team Arnolt Bristol brought his car in on the fourth lap with mechanical difficulties, Jeffords too, retired on the fourth lap with a combination of overheating and wrong tyres.

   Bob Gates got off to a bad start, but on the fifth lap he was right behind Mack Yates in a similar Corvette. Bud Anderson ( # 8 )passed both of them in his Ace Bristol, but on the eigth lap Gates found the groove and got into third place where he remained for the rest of the race.

   Whilst this was going on, Fred Rediske ( # 54 ) was steadily working his way through the heavy traffic, and on the thirteenth lap caught up with Bud Anderson. For two laps they went round like they were tied together until the fifteenth go round Rediske found an opening and took over fourth place.

   At the finish, ( 20 laps ) it was still Spooner ( #33 ) way in front with Schattschneider second, Gates third ( #28 ), Rediske fourth and Bud Anderson fifth. ( Grid of 37 cars )

   Not sure who scribed the report but it related to the publish photo.
   A little Race History of BEX279..[;)]

   Keith.
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on November 23, 2015, 14:34:48: Thank you guys so much for the information! This really helps define the history of BEX279. Is Bud Anderson still with us? Does anyone have any additional information on him?

   Thanks,

   Jeff
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on November 24, 2015, 17:59:15: Where are good sources for parts? Mechanical, electrical, Interior, exterior, etc....
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: alnmary on November 24, 2015, 22:38:32: Jeff, Please drop me an email as I may be able to help with your project. Are you in NYS?

   Al Isselhard
   Wolcott, NY
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: alnmary on November 24, 2015, 22:50:02: Jeff - my email address is: speedway2742@gmail.com

   Al Isselhard
   Wolcott, NY
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on November 24, 2015, 23:52:14: Al. Email sent. Yes I am in New York. About 2 hours from Wolcott.
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on November 30, 2015, 18:28:00: I just wanted to give everyone a quick update. The car is getting naked! Lol [:D]
(http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah146/velocityss1985/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/f6dd6565-b11d-479b-804e-b4eb3f031f89_zpsuegl4ztl.jpg~original)
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on November 30, 2015, 18:31:50: This is definitely a tedious job. But will be well worth it in the end. The car has been painted at least 3 times.
As you can see the original Svecia Red is still there. (http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah146/velocityss1985/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/3a26facb-477c-4d9a-af7e-ec1bfccf4ada_zpsdpaklqxi.jpg~original)
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on November 30, 2015, 18:33:15: I have met so many nice people thanks to this forum. I also got in contact with the original owner Herb Jones and he is going to gather some information about "our" car! [:D]
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on November 30, 2015, 18:36:20: What do you think this was on the trunk? If you look back at the picture where the car was racing at Reims you will see it on the trunk? Some type of racing modification? I am going to ask Herb when I talk with him next.

(http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah146/velocityss1985/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/ec0cf4ba-da0e-4c4b-836b-65d7b680640d_zpsvn1ulj60.jpg~original)
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: B.P.Bird on December 01, 2015, 21:15:49: Jeff, Competition Number light for night racing. Probably the small Lucas dome shaped number plate light L534/53705 or sometimes they used the same light as the number plate light on an Ace L467/56790. However there were also other variants, sometimes handmade. Get the magnifying glass on those old pictures.
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on December 02, 2015, 14:51:29: quote:
Originally posted by B.P.Bird

Jeff, Competition Number light for night racing. Probably the small Lucas dome shaped number plate light L534/53705 or sometimes they used the same light as the number plate light on an Ace L467/56790. However there were also other variants, sometimes handmade. Get the magnifying glass on those old pictures.



   Wow, I would have never guessed that! Thank you for the information. It makes sense to me now.
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on December 08, 2015, 14:18:48: Hello All,

   I made an (extensive) partial list of the items I need. If you can help me locate them or tell me where to purchase them I would greatly appreciate it. Please use the each item reference number below as a guide. If there are other cars that use some of these parts that would help me as well as others in the future, please list them. Thanks, Jeff

   Let's begin [:D]:

   1. Front and back emblems with Bristol banner

   2. Front headlight trim rings

   3. Chrome hood key hole covers and key

   4. Trunk handle

   5. License plate light and lens

   6. Rear tail lights

   7. Inside trunk clips for jack, etc

   8. Trunk prop rod or telescoping rod

   9. Chrome Gas cap

   10. Inside door handles and strikers

   11. Side window wing chrome inserts I think there are 8?

   12. Do you sell a screw and bolt kit for the car? Just misc. BSF and BSW as well as the flat head machine ones?

   13. Complete wiring harness from front to rear

   14. Horn and turn signal components and horn cap

   15. All of the dash switches and lights

   16. Brake master cylinder

   17. All of the brake lines and hoses and clips, I do have the 2 junction blocks

   18. Clutch slave and hydraulic master cylinder including the lines

   19. Do you sell all of the u joints? I want to replace them

   20. Front rotors, pads and calipers. Do you sell caliper rebuild kits?

   21. Rear shoes, spring kits, and wheel cylinders

   22. Emergency brake cables

   23. Suspension bushings (16)

   24. King pin kits

   25. Steering wheel (wood)

   26. Interior kit, Black leather

   27. Tonneau cover snaps

   28. Read end gaskets, side and 3rd member one

   29. Steering box rebuild kit

   30. Shocks

   31. Possible spring bushings front and rear springs

   32. Steering shaft gasket that goes on the footbox

   33. Rod ends for front suspension

   34. Door, hood and trunk weather stripping

   35. 4 - AC knock off spinners

   36. Over riders

   37. Front Turn signal lens's and bases

   38. Front Grill and surround

   40. Fuel Filler hose to gas tank

   41. Smiths heater box and two defrost vent hoses

   42. Did some cars come with windshield squirters?

   43. Speedometer with clock Ace or 2 litre Saloon

   44. All of the other instruments except the rev counter

   Whew.... That is a list... [:D]
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: BE774 on December 08, 2015, 17:22:08: Hi Jeff, do you have a copy of Rinsey Mills' book Original Ace and Cobra? Invaluable guide to originality.

   Are you looking primarily for USA suppliers? A lot of what you need is available in the UK from various places. Do you use eBay at all? Some starters:-

   various brightwork: same as early Cobra, try www.europaspares.com
   10. Inside door locks: MG T series of the period
   13. Wiring harness: Autosparks: www.autosparks.co.uk
   38. Classic Autos of Kings Langley, Herts, UK can make these.
   42. Yes they did. Barry Howsley (ACOC member) often has one for sale (difficult to find) and he knows Aces.
   43/44. Gauges are not easy. Speedo physically same as Triumph TR of period, except printing is different. The smaller gauges are again mostly available but not necessarily with the correct markings. I ended up finding a specialist who would print the dials and make up six complete sets and advertised in the club magazine for other owners to come in on the deal. My supplier is now defunct unfortunately.
   Hope that helps a little.
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: Aceca289 on December 08, 2015, 20:53:36: Hi Jeff,

   I have a PDF copy of a 1965 ACOC parts interchange list that I can send you. It will help you ID other cars that used many of the same parts in period allowing you to go to Moss or other British parts suppliers. Send me an e-mail and I'll get you a copy. Aceca289 at aol.com

   John
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on December 09, 2015, 00:31:04: quote:
Originally posted by BE774

Hi Jeff, do you have a copy of Rinsey Mills' book Original Ace and Cobra? Invaluable guide to originality.

   Are you looking primarily for USA suppliers? A lot of what you need is available in the UK from various places. Do you use eBay at all? Some starters:-

   various brightwork: same as early Cobra, try www.europaspares.com
   10. Inside door locks: MG T series of the period
   13. Wiring harness: Autosparks: www.autosparks.co.uk
   38. Classic Autos of Kings Langley, Herts, UK can make these.
   42. Yes they did. Barry Howsley (ACOC member) often has one for sale (difficult to find) and he knows Aces.
   43/44. Gauges are not easy. Speedo physically same as Triumph TR of period, except printing is different. The smaller gauges are again mostly available but not necessarily with the correct markings. I ended up finding a specialist who would print the dials and make up six complete sets and advertised in the club magazine for other owners to come in on the deal. My supplier is now defunct unfortunately.
   Hope that helps a little.



   I am in the process of getting the book for reference.

   I am open to get the parts anywhere that is cost effective.

   I use eBay and have Paypal

   Thanks for the info, this is the information I am after.

   Thanks,
   Jeff
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on December 09, 2015, 00:32:52: quote:
Originally posted by Aceca289

Hi Jeff,

   I have a PDF copy of a 1965 ACOC parts interchange list that I can send you. It will help you ID other cars that used many of the same parts in period allowing you to go to Moss or other British parts suppliers. Send me an e-mail and I'll get you a copy. Aceca289 at aol.com

   John



   John - email sent Thanks, Jeff
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: B.P.Bird on December 10, 2015, 18:19:01: Jeff,
   Here are a few hints to start off your searches. Many of these suppliers overlap in their ranges. There is a Spares Coordinator in the A.C.O.C. see ACtion for contact details.
   Brian Eacott is a good source of advice for everything being ex A.C. Cars Ltd. You now owe me a beer.



   1. Front and back emblems with Bristol banner - ACOC spares scheme perhaps.

   2. Front headlight trim rings - http://www.holden.co.uk/default.asp

   3. Chrome hood key hole covers and key - Escutcheon and T handle https://www.vintagecarparts.co.uk/search?query=escutcheon

   4. Trunk handle - https://www.vintagecarparts.co.uk/search?query=escutcheon

   5. License plate light and lens - https://www.vintagecarparts.co.uk/search?query=escutcheon

   6. Rear tail lights - http://www.holden.co.uk/default.asp

   7. Inside trunk clips for jack, etc - http://www.aerohydraulics.com/p-gm-158781-1357057.aspx?&utm_source=GoogleMerchant&utm_medium=PriceComparison&utm_campaign=Froogle201512&gclid=CO-l9PTT0ckCFde6Gwod7X0APA

   8. Trunk prop rod or telescoping rod - WB boot lid stay http://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/bonnet-boot-lid-stay-small

   9. Chrome Gas cap - Candess ACOC spares scheme perhaps.

   10. Inside door handles and strikers - WB Silent Travel. There are many scruffy reproductions about, but Paul Beck here has correct ones https://www.vintagecarparts.co.uk/search?query=Silent+travel

   11. Side window wing chrome inserts I think there are 8? - Ferrules. Get some turned at a machine shop in stainless

   12. Do you sell a screw and bolt kit for the car? Just misc. BSF and BSW as well as the flat head machine ones? - You will also need many 2 BA round head chrome plated brass screws, mostly 1/2", but there are some longer ones - http://www.polished-stainless.com/

   13. Complete wiring harness from front to rear - not exactly correct for early cars http://www.autosparks.co.uk/finder

   14. Horn and turn signal components and horn cap - Oh dear really a headache, so many have been wrecked by The Improvers who try and prise them out of the steering wheel without undoing the union nut on the end of the stator tube. http://www.scparts.co.uk/sc_en/british-cars/triumph/triumph-tr2-to-tr4a-1953-1967/steering/steering-box-and-steering-wheel-tr2-tr3-tr3a-and-tr3b.html

   15. All of the dash switches and lights - http://www.holden.co.uk/default.asp

   16. Brake master cylinder - http://www.powertrackbrakes.co.uk/

   17. All of the brake lines and hoses and clips, I do have the 2 junction blocks - http://www.powertrackbrakes.co.uk/

   18. Clutch slave and hydraulic master cylinder including the lines - http://www.powertrackbrakes.co.uk/

   19. Do you sell all of the u joints? I want to replace them - Brian Eacott Tel/Fax +44208 397 8472 Mobile +44 7885 945193

   20. Front rotors, pads and calipers. Do you sell caliper rebuild kits? - Brian Eacott Tel/Fax +44208 397 8472 Mobile +44 7885 945193

   21. Rear shoes, spring kits, and wheel cylinders - http://www.powertrackbrakes.co.uk/

   22. Emergency brake cables - Handbrake cables and clevis pins Brian Eacott Tel/Fax +44208 397 8472 Mobile +44 7885 945193 or http://www.speedograph-richfield.com/

   23. Suspension bushings (16) - Brian Eacott Tel/Fax +44208 397 8472 Mobile +44 7885 945193

   24. King pin kits - Brian Eacott Tel/Fax +44208 397 8472 Mobile +44 7885 945193

   25. Steering wheel (wood) - There is the lightweight A.C. wheel and the Derrington wheel often supplied for competition cars. Ask nicely and they will omit their non original Moto Lita engraving https://www.moto-lita.co.uk/our-products/Wheel_Details_01.aspx?WH_ID=10

   26. Interior kit, Black leather - Skilled upholsterer + Bridge of Weir hide. http://www.bowleather.co.uk/

   27. Tonneau cover snaps - Lift the Dot or Tenax, early cars had Tenax. The SVB Tenax are nearly correct, but there are many different patterns now from many suppliers http://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/c-58-lift-the-dot.aspx or https://www.svb24.com/en/tenax-tenax-fasteners.html

   28. Rear end gaskets, side and 3rd member one - Tap them out from paper gasketing.

   29. Steering box rebuild kit - likely only need a new peg and oil seal maybe ball races, the cam seems to survive well http://www.scparts.co.uk/sc_en/british-cars/triumph/triumph-tr2-to-tr4a-1953-1967/steering/steering-box-and-steering-wheel-tr2-tr3-tr3a-and-tr3b.html

   30. Shocks - Dampers should be Armstrong, get them rebuilt or copied. Having a shorter length extension is a good idea.

   31. Possible spring bushings front and rear springs - Brian Eacott Tel/Fax +44208 397 8472 Mobile +44 7885 945193

   32. Steering shaft gasket that goes on the footbox - copy in leather maybe.

   33. Rod ends for front suspension - Steering ? Must have grease nipples. Brian Eacott Tel/Fax +44208 397 8472 Mobile +44 7885 945193

   34. Door, hood and trunk weather stripping - http://www.woolies-trim.co.uk

   35. 4 - AC knock off spinners - http://www.orsonequipment.co.uk/

   36. Over riders - Maybe nil stock. These are for later cars. https://www.smallfordspares.co.uk/categories/small-ford-spares-chrome-fittings-and-body-parts?vehicle=prefect-model-e493a-1949

   37. Front Turn signals lens and base - sidelight http://www.holden.co.uk/default.asp


   38. Front Grill and surround Steve Gray A.C. Heritage http://www.acheritage.co.uk/

   40. Fuel Filler hose to gas tank http://www.viperperformance.co.uk/productsearch.php?xscId=9842

   41. Smiths heater box and two defrost vent hoses - A bit girlie on an Ace ? Anyway were they not Delaney Gallay ? You do see them on ebay.

   42. Did some cars come with windshield squirters? - I have seen them with one double, mounted centrally and two separate singles. http://www.holden.co.uk/default.asp

   43. Speedometer with clock Ace or 2 litre Saloon - 2 litre ones only go to 100 mph http://www.speedograph-richfield.com/

   44. All of the other instruments except the rev counter - They can be found, mostly for Cobra kit cars, the faces should be printed in correct style with open chaplets. The ammeter should be Lucas and was not a match http://www.speedograph-richfield.com/

   Whew.... That is a list...
   - Which is why you owe me two beers.
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on December 10, 2015, 18:51:20: BP Bird. Thank you so much. When this is all said and done I am going to owe the whole UK beers..... [:D]
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on December 15, 2015, 14:54:58: Hello All,

   What a weird coincidence that just happened. I was browsing eBay for parts and ran across this, so I had to snap it up.

   http://www.ebay.com/itm/371297903372?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

   Anyone know what track this may be? Spa?

   Jeff
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on December 18, 2015, 18:50:45: Does anyone have a PPG code for Svecia red? I had a paint scan done and the color they gave me is WAY off. Did they use this color on any other cars?
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: tim isles on December 21, 2015, 12:56:13: Jeff, Your picture shows Herb Jones in BEX 279 at Spa Francorchamps on 18 May 1958 competing in the 2 litre GT race. He came 4th ov. Winner was Mike Anthony in AE 40 (by now Bristol-engined), 2nd was Ted Whiteaway in AE 106 (also Bristol-engined). 3rd was a Porsche 356, and 5th another - this driven by one Jim Clark.
Beers this time go to Tony Bancroft.
Tim
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on December 21, 2015, 18:12:52: Thanks Tim!!!! And tell Tony thank you!!!!
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on January 13, 2016, 18:33:33: Does anyone have the part numbers for the items below? I may have a source for parts in the US but he needs part numbers.
   1. Girling brake master cylinder?
   2. Girling clutch master cylinder?
   3. Girling Slave cylinder?
   4. Brake hoses?
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on January 13, 2016, 18:34:42: A lot has happened since I acquired this car. I will get everyone up to speed in a bit when I get more time to sit down and write up things.

   Thanks to all...

   Jeff
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on January 14, 2016, 00:30:51: What is the factory rim size for a 1957 AC Ace Bristol? I dismounted the tires off of the 5 wheels I have and I have 3 rims that measure 4.5 inches part number x453c and 2 rims that measure 4.0 inches with the part number x453d. Measurements were taken from the inner where the tire bead seats. Did they use skinnier rims in the front? Possibly because of the disc brakes? All of the rims are 16 inches tall.
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: jrlucke on January 14, 2016, 02:38:42: Per this the original size was 4.5 x 16:

   http://www.mwsint.com/custom/FitmentGuide/DisplayEntry.asp?category=87&carId=FG000024&make=AC&CarYear=

   John
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on January 14, 2016, 17:31:56: Thanks John. I called them they said the it was possible that the rims were relaced, possibly for racing with the slightly larger ones in the rear. Maybe Ken Rudd racing did it. They also said original rims were 4"x16". They make make them slightly larger @ 4.5"x16".
Title: BEX279, Race History 57-64, Restoratoration Guide
Post by: velocityss1985 on January 14, 2016, 17:33:25: Also those part numbers are Dunlop rim hoop numbers. Did they make them for AC originally?