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AC Owners Club Forum => Cobra (Thames Ditton) Forum => Topic started by: aaron on February 28, 2014, 21:12:55
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The car came over from the States, in pretty original very tired condition, I wonder how original the car is now ?
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See the Register for the car’s history. A 289 producing ‘442bhp at 7,200rpm’ is not built to FIA or any other recognised original specification and could be categorised as a modern ‘historic’ cobra.
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Jack Sears used to redline 39PH at 7200rpm(as we only recently found out, much to Dad's dismay, as he stuck strictly to 6000!!)but I don't know what the power output would have been.
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But Jack didn't have to pay for the rebuild! That always makes for a different rev limit :)
I must say those fifty-year old Cobras do shine up nice, don't they?
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TLegate "I must say those fifty-year old Cobras do shine up nice, don't they?"
Especially the "Coupés"!
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Having read up on the history of 2268, I see it suffered the misfortune of passing through the hands of the infamous Larry Megibow which is enough to blight any car for life as, once inside his workshop, who knows what happened? But anyone who tries to outrun the Feds in a transporter with a (genuine) Daytona Coupe flying around inside, can't be all bad.... :)
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Originally posted by nikbj68
Jack Sears used to redline 39PH at 7200rpm(as we only recently found out, much to Dad's dismay, as he stuck strictly to 6000!!)but I don't know what the power output would have been.
I did The Pom, sometime in the late 1970's and when doing the standing quarter mile, which was the first test, had not got used to the cars sound with a full helmet on, with the result that I charged up from2nd to3rd at 7000 - I got a good time I recall! But was very relieved that nothing flew apart.
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Dad had the heads worked on by Bill Blydenstein, and the Cobra was good for around 350 hp, but having had a 6000rpm redline on his Ace, he simply followed the logic that it was a lot of rotational energy going on!
Back to 2268, it's certainly one of the front-runners at any event it attends...
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Originally posted by TLegate
Having read up on the history of 2268, I see it suffered the misfortune of passing through the hands of the infamous Larry Megibow which is enough to blight any car for life as, once inside his workshop, who knows what happened? But anyone who tries to outrun the Feds in a transporter with a (genuine) Daytona Coupe flying around inside, can't be all bad.... :)
TL,
Possibly still some same parts of Larry are left in the car!
You don't F with those guys....bad things man, bad things!
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Larry's forte was screwing up the paperwork, but I don't think he really screwed up the cars - he basically just displayed them. 2268 was a nice car when it left Megibow's ownership.
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Yes, screwing up the paperwork. Mr. Megibow didn't have the money to purchase these cars outright, so he bought them with help from his soon-to-be-not-so friendly banker. But the fact that the bank held title to the cars interrupted Megibow's desire to swap cars around and pocket the proceeds. So he got creative, and sold some cars on a bill of sale, and others on a duplicate title. Once word got out that some buyers really didn't own the cars they had "purchased" and the bank realized Megibow no longer had possession of some cars for which they held a note, things started to go south pretty quickly. Which is about the time Megibow tried to make a run for the border, but was apprehended instead, cleaving the Daytona Coupe abandoned on the side of the highway in New Jersey.
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Two ACOC members inspected 2268 on Friday on behalf of a German enquirer. Their written findings are available to serious potential buyers.
RS
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Can't remmeber if it was 2013 or maybe 2012 when the COB had a really huge damage from an accident in SPA. Can't find the pics.
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Robin,
Will you add the findings to the ACOC Register and update the entry for this car now?
I know it very well and the facts, good, bad or otherwise belong there for any purchaser to avail themselves I feel.
Regards,
SJ
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The Excel register, which contains the same level of information for every car (excepting those of historical significance), is always updated as new facts become available. The website copy is a six-monthly or thereabouts pdf snapshot of the Excel register,the next snapshot being in mid-year.
The register is supported by much supplementary information that is not in the public domain (detailed photographs, confidential submissions, correspondence with lawyers, inspections commissioned by agents etc). This is only made available (where it can be disclosed) to interested parties. This is Club policy and the only basis on which a register can be operated effectively.
RS
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Are you referring to the selective reporting of the facts Aaron, or the selective recording of them?
Or perhaps both?
SJ
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A register cannot be operated without selectively recording and reporting the facts: all registrars will affirm this.
Selective recording, as only facts relevant to the register's purpose need recording.
Selective reporting, as only sufficient summary facts needed to alert interested parties need to be reported. The Cobra Register is 64 .pdf pages long, and no user has ever suggested that it is too short for its purpose.
If anyone want's to put forward considered changes to ACOC practice, found to be in accordance with leading register practice by a leading law firm, well-considered proposals to Council are always welcome.
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Originally posted by SJ351
Are you referring to the selective reporting of the facts Aaron, or the selective recording of them?
Or perhaps both?
SJ
Steve that is a very good question, what do you mean by "selective" reportings of the facts ? or the "selective" recordings of them ?[:)]
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Originally posted by rstainer
"Selective recording, as only facts relevant to the register's purpose need recording"
So you only publish what you want people to know ?
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Aaron,
You confuse register (a thing) with registrar (a person).
The register's purpose is defined in the 2001 Council Register Policy. This is available to members on request, applies to all ACOC registers and has nothing to do with who the registrar is.
If anyone wants to discuss the purpose of registers or how they should be operated a separate string in the Forum's General Section would be welcome, as the subject applies to all AC models and ACOC registrars.
RS
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Originally posted by rstainer
Aaron,
You confuse register (a thing) with registrar (a person).
The register's purpose is defined in the 2001 Council Register Policy. This is available to members on request, applies to all ACOC registers and has nothing to do with who the registrar is.
If anyone wants to discuss the purpose of registers or how they should be operated a separate string in the Forum's General Section would be welcome, as the subject applies to all AC models and ACOC registrars.
RS
Robin, look at the above quotes, I have not confused anything
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It is difficult for me and and some other readers to understand how the past two week’s posts relate to this string’s ‘CSX 2268 How Original?’ Topic. If anyone has further material relevant to 2268’s originality please post it below.
Anyone wanting to discuss the purpose of registers or how their operation might be changed should kindly open a separate Topic in the Forum's General Section.
RS
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The ACOC Forum is organised by topic within general subject area (car type, general etc). The Cobra (Thames Ditton) Forum has about 150 open topics, this one being ‘CSX 2268 How Original?’
The CS 2131 question is not relevant to the CSX 2268 How Original? topic. If anyone wants an answer to the 2131 question, please open an appropriate topic and the it will be provided.
Proper Forum etiquette (by, for example, restricting string posts to the string’s topic) is necessary for easily-navigable forum structure and broad appeal. All users, members and non-members, are asked to follow the structure and modus-operandi agreed by the Club.
RS