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AC Owners Club Forum => 428 Frua Forum => Topic started by: siegfried on October 06, 2013, 15:52:25

Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: siegfried on October 06, 2013, 15:52:25: Hallo
   Finally we started the restoration of my frua
   As you can see the gearbox is a zf the same the used by Maserati and the GT40.
   Likely its all factory fitted
   You can also find the picture from the air extractor
   Gr Siegfried





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Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: ME113 on October 06, 2013, 17:32:59: Hi Siegried,

   Nice work but it's not a GT40 gearbox, they used an alloy-cased ZF 5DS25 transaxle.

   Cheers,

   Jeremy.
Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: B.P.Bird on October 06, 2013, 21:25:10: Siegfried that is interesting, is it as fitted by the works I wonder? It looks like the same type of ZF 5 speed that was used in the flat six Greyhound FE2583, now in BEF 2535. I think the works lightweight Jaguar E Types used it as well (briefly) maybe other front engined cars from the period - Alvis TD/TE/TF 21 for instance. A very sturdy 'box, but heavy - although I would think weight is matter of indifference in a 428.
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Post by: Emmanueld on October 25, 2013, 23:55:59: Siegfried, no way of knowing for sure, although, the factory would have done anything for a fee i am sure. The car is so much better with 5 speed. Looks similar to the box in my late 70's Aston V8 Vantage. The throwout bearing is always noisy on these and they are slow shifting. A very heavy and sturdy box. And no, the weight make a difference on these cars which are heavier than a Cobra but still light compared to contemporary super cars. If it needs to be rebuilt don't bother, put it in a box and install a modern Tremec TKO 600. Did you ask the club for any documentation on this particular car?

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Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: siegfried on January 26, 2014, 16:29:51: Hallo everybody,
   i just receive the scale model off the 428.
   Looks gorgeous
   Siegfried

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Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: siegfried on June 10, 2014, 18:58:52: (http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n501/sieg3/IMG_0728.jpg) (http://s1137.photobucket.com/user/sieg3/media/IMG_0728.jpg.html)(http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n501/sieg3/IMG_0726.jpg) (http://s1137.photobucket.com/user/sieg3/media/IMG_0726.jpg.html)(http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n501/sieg3/DSC_0164.jpg) (http://s1137.photobucket.com/user/sieg3/media/DSC_0164.jpg.html)(http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n501/sieg3/IMG_0731.jpg) (http://s1137.photobucket.com/user/sieg3/media/IMG_0731.jpg.html)
Some pictures from naked and flying beauty
Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: Classicus on June 11, 2014, 22:15:50: Nice pics Siegfried getting there....

   What's the CF number please ?

   Thanks
Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: siegfried on June 14, 2014, 21:42:52: Hi paul
   The cf nr is Chassis CFX 13
   Engine 7 H20 F
   Cheers ,Siegfried
Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: Classicus on June 14, 2014, 22:24:51: Great thanks Siegfried ....

Paul
Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: siegfried on June 21, 2014, 11:49:07: Hallo everyone ,
   Somme pics from the totally rebuild engine , new pistons new valves oil-pump .........................
   The question now , organic or full synthetic oil ?


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Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: B.P.Bird on June 22, 2014, 15:53:38: Siegfried, The engine looks good: Running in oil til the rings are seated - Millers Classic or Competition Running In Oil. On the Dyno this will be only 20 minutes and on the road maybe 200 miles if you have some bursts of high torque. Then a full synthetic. Millers 15-60 seems to suit these big V8 engines very well. Some additional ZDDP is going to do no harm, although if you use the Millers it is already there: http://www.millersoils.co.uk/pdf/automotive/Classic%20Oil%20Brochure.pdf Whatever you do don't use any synthetic for running in. Of course there are plenty of alternatives to Millers, but bear in mind that the major oil companies have to compromise on their oil specs. to cover a wide market - for example fuel consumption and emissions. Not a priority on a 428....
Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: shep on September 17, 2014, 15:33:31: Interesting what you say Barrie and I totally agree about running-in oil. I know of someone who had an Aston engine rebuilt at serious cost, but put in a modern fully synthetic oil. After 2000 miles it was still smoking and he took it back to the highly reputable builder to complain. They stripped off the head to find all the honing marks totally intact from the rebuild. They put in some cheap oil for 500 miles and bingo it stopped smoking and the rings sealed beautifully. THEN they changed to modern oil and there were no problems at all. These new oils are amazing, but only once the engine has bedded in.
Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: Emmanueld on March 20, 2015, 03:38:06: Hi Siegfried, How your car going along? Dying to see some more photos
Emmanuel [:)]
Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: siegfried on March 26, 2015, 10:58:56: quote:
Originally posted by siegfried

Hallo everybody,
   I was looking for a original Les Leston steering wheel.
   I bought this one but i hope somebody can help my to find the good one ?
   Gr Siegfried

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Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: nikbj68 on March 26, 2015, 20:20:21: Don`t know if THIS ONE (http://"http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Les-Leston-Drilled-Spoke-Steering-Wheel-/361253312560?&_trksid=p2056016.m2518.l4276") on eBay might be any better?

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Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: siegfried on March 27, 2015, 14:37:10: This is the one y really want!
Gr Siegfried
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Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: B.P.Bird on March 27, 2015, 15:38:39: Hmm. Something not right about about that last picture of the 428 wheel ? Did Thames Ditton change the design from the Cobra ? Those slots look rather narrow. See slots here on a 1964 TD wheel and a Moto Lita replica. If you go the Moto Lita route you can ask Simon to leave the non original Moto Lita engraving off and then their wheel is exact and beautifully made.

   1964 Original
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   2014 Moto Lita
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Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: siegfried on March 28, 2015, 09:26:04: Restoration is a slow process ........................ !
gr ,Siegfried
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Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: nikbj68 on March 29, 2015, 20:01:52: Ditto what Barrie says, but if you have to have a Les Leston, how's THIS ONE (http://"http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ORIGINAL-1960s-LES-LESTON-WOOD-STEERING-WHEEL-PORSCHE-356B-C-904-JAGUAR-TVR-/171736821253?") on eBay?
It is a lot more expensive than a new Moto-Lita though!
Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: siegfried on March 29, 2015, 20:38:09: Thanks Nik I will tray to get this one.
Siegfried
Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: siegfried on April 05, 2015, 20:15:07: (http://)(http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n501/sieg3/171736821253_1.jpg) (http://s1137.photobucket.com/user/sieg3/media/171736821253_1.jpg.html)

    Thanks Nic for the info I just bought the Les Leston steering wheel on ebay
   Gr Siegfried
Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: nikbj68 on April 05, 2015, 21:27:00: Aah, well done! I hope that it`s as good as it looks in the photos, and that you are happy with it when fitted. [:)]
Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: B.P.Bird on April 07, 2015, 13:28:12: Siegfried & Nick,
   Just had a visit from CF7 and it seems that the 428 steering wheel is different from the Cobra: There are some other pictures around of 428 interiors and all the ones I found have this narrow slot style wheel. The rim seems to be slightly thicker as well:

   CF7 Steering Wheel

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Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: nikbj68 on April 07, 2015, 13:55:21: I must say I like the solid wood rather than riveted on the 428, where the Cobra item hints of performance the CF7 wheel suggests time and effort put into the aesthetics![8D]

...Or maybe the lightness of the wider Cobra slots gave rise to gentlemen`s cufflinks or ladies charm bracelets being caught in their trap, an issue unlikely to arise at opposite lock around a circuit?![:o)]
Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: siegfried on April 11, 2015, 12:19:29: I received the les leston steering wheel end read the very good article in Octane.
   Gr. Siegfried
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Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: nikbj68 on April 11, 2015, 13:09:47: That looks great, Siegfried, can`t wait to see photos of your hands on it, sat in the car!
Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: Emmanueld on May 05, 2015, 08:43:00: Hi Siegfried, the original AC wheel is a Leston wheel, Jeffrey and I did the research and posted it on this site years ago. See my post!

Emmanuel[:)]
Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: siegfried on January 07, 2017, 10:58:53: we still have a great deal of work to do ...........
   gr Siegfried



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Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: Emmanueld on January 19, 2017, 03:42:57: Nice! Looks magnificent!
Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: siegfried on June 18, 2017, 12:06:06: Hi to all ,can someone help me out with the engine mounts,where and wich ones should I buy ? Since the ones that are on my car I don't trust
Greetings Siegfried
Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: cliffordl on June 22, 2017, 12:07:55: Try Hawk cars. enquiries@hawkcars.co.uk

I picked up a pair from them a few years ago.
Title: sleeping beauty
Post by: siegfried on June 22, 2017, 19:28:17: Thanks Clifford
Siegfried