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AC Owners Club Forum => Mk IV, Superblower, CRS and other Continuation Cars Forum => Topic started by: henryr on February 17, 2007, 02:56:30

Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: henryr on February 17, 2007, 02:56:30: please contact me mrhenry123@gmail.com

looking for a car in the USA. <$60k
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: Jan_AC_MKIV_1227 on February 17, 2007, 13:56:44: good luck, it seems prices have moved northward over the last 6 months, 60k would be low and the car would need TLC
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: AK1131 on February 17, 2007, 14:20:10: Hurry Henry, At this time last year your were at 40 and the cars were at 60. Now your at 60 and the cars are at 100.

There are two up north for sale. Green and black for 100. Quit shopping and start driving![8D]
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: henryr on February 17, 2007, 21:26:15: sorry but these are not $100k cars. maybe only due to the massive depreciation in the dollar. i'll buy a kirkham for that kind of money.

the green car is in dreamland. at least the black looks to have some nice upgrades / options.
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: Jan_AC_MKIV_1227 on February 17, 2007, 22:14:44: a kirkham is a replica, a good one at that, AC's are authentic and big time sleepers in the collector car market..good luck
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: dkp_cobra on February 18, 2007, 14:49:33: quote:
Originally posted by Jan_AC_MKIV_1227

a kirkham is a replica, a good one at that, AC's are authentic and big time sleepers in the collector car market..good luck



   Yes, let's start the discussion again [B)]
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: Jan_AC_MKIV_1227 on February 18, 2007, 14:54:07: sorry, they are coming out of the woordwork this winter !!!

is it E's brother??
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Post by: ak1234 on February 18, 2007, 14:56:57: I got an idea ... buy a kirkham and save us all this dicussion ... all over again. Your about 8 years too late at 50k.

Ron
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: henryr on February 18, 2007, 15:34:59: 8 years ? sorry, thats a complete pipe dream. mcmicheal motorsports had a one owner red tan car with 16k miles for sale at $45K last summer. the black on black car (bucks county pa) sold for $55k last year on ebay (seller was asking $45k a few months before but i couldn't make the trip up to see it). and before that, i nice gent in SC purchased a 600 mile car from Ooley and Blacburn for $65k.

i'm not trying to be a troll. these are not $100k cars. neither the green or the black car will sell at those prices. period.
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: ak1234 on February 18, 2007, 15:56:47: I offer you the best of luck ... those who snooze ...looze
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: Chafford on February 18, 2007, 17:41:44: quote:
Originally posted by henryr

8 years ? sorry, thats a complete pipe dream. mcmicheal motorsports had a one owner red tan car with 16k miles for sale at $45K last summer. the black on black car (bucks county pa) sold for $55k last year on ebay (seller was asking $45k a few months before but i couldn't make the trip up to see it). and before that, i nice gent in SC purchased a 600 mile car from Ooley and Blacburn for $65k.

   i'm not trying to be a troll. these are not $100k cars. neither the green or the black car will sell at those prices. period.



   The AC Cobra MkIV must be severely underrated in the States if these prices are anything to go by. $45,000 (US) at current exchange rates is £24,000(UK). You won't find a decent MKIV on sale in the UK for less than £45,000($85,000)and that would be the bog standard version (if such a thing exists!)
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: Jan_AC_MKIV_1227 on February 18, 2007, 18:14:31: would of should of could of, last year was a steal in the market for AC MKIV's, Henry does not get it, car prices and the collector car market are a funny thing, cars always take a severe dip after initial purchase, then they appreciate at a pace that often fluctuates, but in the end, appreciates. replicas rarely appreciate..

good luck, sounds like you will need it
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: Chafford on February 18, 2007, 18:18:20: A MKIV sounds like a good buy in the US, and unlikely to show any depreciation in future years if you need to sell.
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: jbottini on February 18, 2007, 19:23:02: Perhaps, based on UK prices, any of us on this side of pond should sell in the UK and 'repatriate" the vehicles. While Henry may be right about the two @100k, he'll have a hard time buying one south of 60K, unless he catches a wife with a car she's disposing of......
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: Jan_AC_MKIV_1227 on February 19, 2007, 01:12:51: opinion here but it seems like US MKIV's are going in the 65-75k range now, gained about 20k in the last 12 -18 months...
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: braco on February 19, 2007, 02:30:20: I think first U.S. new MKIV arent underpriced.
   At the Geneva Motor Show 1990 the MKIV are offer at 280'000 CHF
   and the Lightweight at 320'000 CHF. See Automobil Revue Katalog 1990.
   The MKIV have the same Swiss price as Testarossa... and one desiderable
   family pedigree, AC.
   I own the #238 in Ferrari red, and I find the hand built quality, one of the best.
   Please not ever compare with the MKIII or his new replicas.
   The MKIV is one 80' years car and so must remain: real MKIV !
   Sorry for my English.[:)]
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Post by: ak1234 on February 19, 2007, 02:54:34: Bracco ... 238 ... so our cars were manufactered close together ...have not seen many 88's ... not sure how many were prodiced in that year.. and that leads us to our next post .. production #'s ???? LOL
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: braco on February 19, 2007, 03:39:06: Hallo ak 1234,

my car are producted in 1989 for the 1990 Geneva Motor Show.
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: Johan on February 19, 2007, 03:56:11: Here you go Henry.
   I think it is $55,000
    http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/classic-car-page.php/carno/6807
   Better hurry before it goes up.
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: Jan_AC_MKIV_1227 on February 19, 2007, 04:15:46: oh my goodness, that is around 170k US !!!
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: nikbj68 on February 19, 2007, 06:33:26: quote:
Originally posted by Johan

Here you go Henry.
   I think it is $55,000
    http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/classic-car-page.php/carno/6807
   Better hurry before it goes up.


   (http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/dbimages/0796160001147112425)
   OK, Even though it is a genuine Lightweight, and was the AC Cars demonstrator, I think that £90k is a bit rich.
   Would you have trouble getting it legal in the US with the carb set-up?
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: Chafford on February 19, 2007, 12:23:41: quote:
Originally posted by nikbj68

quote:
Originally posted by Johan

Here you go Henry.
   I think it is $55,000
    http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/classic-car-page.php/carno/6807
   Better hurry before it goes up.


   (http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/dbimages/0796160001147112425)
   OK, Even though it is a genuine Lightweight, and was the AC Cars demonstrator, I think that £90k is a bit rich.
   Would you have trouble getting it legal in the US with the carb set-up?



   No doubt due to supply and demand. As most of the MKIVs were exported to the US, there can't be many in the UK and the Lightweight is even rarer. Add the cachet of the AC badge in the UK and you can possibly understand the higher prices.
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: Johan on February 19, 2007, 12:32:03: Wow, it is going up quick!
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: henryr on February 19, 2007, 18:43:50: ok, i'll buy it. since i only have US dollars can i swap 55,000 for 89,500 GBP with you ????






quote:
Originally posted by Johan

Here you go Henry.
   I think it is $55,000
    http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/classic-car-page.php/carno/6807
   Better hurry before it goes up.
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: AK1131 on February 19, 2007, 22:44:52: O Henry,

   You are like a black man at a clan rally. You have to speak highly of an AC here. It is all about pedigree. If it is not an AC, it is not "the real thing". Not a one, none. The cars that Shelby is building are replicas.

   I think the black and green cars are prices fairly. The green one is from a collection with less that 1,000 mile and the black one has around 4,000 mile with two owners. [}:)]
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: nikbj68 on February 20, 2007, 06:26:09: quote:
Originally posted by AK1131
   O Henry... You have to speak highly of an AC here. It is all about pedigree. If it is not an AC, it is not "the real thing". Not a one, none. The cars that Shelby is building are replicas....[}:)]


   ...And you, Sir, are poking the wasp nest with a stick![:D]
   This is, after all the AC Owners` Club Forum! [:p]
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: cobham cobra on February 20, 2007, 12:22:34: Oh no not again [:(]
Nik, I think I might join you with a pie and a pint this time round [:D]
Cheers - John.
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: Chafford on February 20, 2007, 20:00:05: quote:
Originally posted by AK1131

O Henry,

   You are like a black man at a clan rally. You have to speak highly of an AC here. It is all about pedigree. If it is not an AC, it is not "the real thing". Not a one, none. The cars that Shelby is building are replicas.

   I think the black and green cars are prices fairly. The green one is from a collection with less that 1,000 mile and the black one has around 4,000 mile with two owners. [}:)]





   Here's one of Shelby's current replicas; a glassfibre 'CSX8000 slabside' (horrible word!!)

   (http://photos.ebizautos.com/5132/1411439_1.jpg)
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: ak1234 on February 20, 2007, 22:35:14: Ah yes finally ... the Shelby Cobra CSX 8000 in the above picture is 2 miles from my house .. I looked at this car ..and Shelby should be ashamed of himself. So here we go ... the comparison .... this car above as compared to the MKV I seen ..there is no comparison .. the MKV is a much nicer car in both body and chassis. Oh and for 98k you too can buy the SHELBY name as they say its an HRE Original. LOL
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: linklaw on March 04, 2007, 13:02:44: Henry, there is a 1985 Autokraft MK IV on Ebay right now that fits your criteria of costing less than $60,000.00. It is AK1059.
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: mike stephenson on March 04, 2007, 13:19:02: I saw the black car at the rm auction in fort lauderdale in feb. 2007. It did not sell. It would take a lot of money to get that car back to decent condition. A great deal more money to make it nice. Maybe it is fairly priced for its condition.
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: jbottini on March 04, 2007, 14:09:37: Linklaw, i can't find it on ebay do you have an item number? jBottini
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: Mark IV on March 04, 2007, 15:11:48: Look here..http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Shelby-1985-Autokraft-Cobra-650HP-5-spd-6800-Orig-Miles_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6465QQihZ008QQitemZ180091789496QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

   And here....http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Shelby-MkIV-Autokraft-1985-Autokraft-AC-MkIV-Cobra-aluminum-body-4k-miles_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6465QQihZ006QQitemZ160088575135QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

   I sold 1059 new.....

   Rick
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: ak1234 on March 04, 2007, 17:00:21: ........... LOL and the black one was driven by an old lady back and forth to the grocery store .. LOL the YOUTUBE video proves it ..

   On a seriuos note .. back in 1995 I looked at a black MKIV for sale in Nyack .. it was titled to Eric Clapton it was a blakc 1985 MKIV ... any record of that car ???? you know the famous singer ??

   Ron
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: linklaw on March 04, 2007, 21:58:53: SOLD for $58,888. Did anyone here buy it?
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Post by: SB7019 on March 04, 2007, 22:08:00: Are my eyes deceiving me or does the one that has just sold have 16" front wheels and 15" rears?
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: jbottini on March 04, 2007, 22:32:17: not I John!
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: henryr on March 05, 2007, 01:08:29: i have seen that black car for sale before. it was offered at $70k in autoweek. owned by that hot rod mustang gent in florida. stormin norman. i recieved a couple of emails saying the auction was a scam. all the private restricted bidder stuff on ebay. who knows....
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Post by: Mark IV on March 05, 2007, 01:12:30: I'll bet it is a bogus sale, the bid history shows the bids went from 25,000 to 58,888 in ONE bid. Smells funny yo me, eBay is fast becoming a joke due to bogus auctions and fake listings.

Rick
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Post by: Jan_AC_MKIV_1227 on March 05, 2007, 19:07:09: that car looked like it was seriously beat on, don't think it was the original motor and it just looked liked it wass "used" pretty hard. the YouTube proves is was never driven hard !!!
Title: WTB MKIV
Post by: GT703 on April 20, 2007, 02:12:45: quote:
Originally posted by Jan_AC_MKIV_1227

that car looked like it was seriously beat on, don't think it was the original motor and it just looked liked it wass "used" pretty hard. the YouTube proves is was never driven hard !!!



   Sale is not bogus. I have firsthand knowledge of transaction. Previous owner of MK IV wanted another one. Intention is to drive car and render TLC. Had 2 "perfect" stock cars that were both driven, modified and sold in better condition than when purchased. AK1059 will likely follow the pattern. Cheers to all!![:)]