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Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: Mark IV on January 01, 2007, 19:38:56: OK,
   Here are the first of the documents I have. There will be MANY more to follow as time and my steam-powered scanner allows.
   (http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q252/rcmuck/AK1065-doherty.jpg)

   (http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q252/rcmuck/AK1069-bovo.jpg)

   (http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q252/rcmuck/AK1069-inv.jpg)

   (http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q252/rcmuck/AK1116-inv.jpg)

   More to come....

   Rick
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: linklaw on January 01, 2007, 20:36:34: Thanks Rick, these are very interesting. I note that one of the cars was invoiced with a hardtop. In all of the literature I have and have read, I don't recall a hardtop being mentioned. Do you have any idea or remember how many cars you took delivery of with a hardtop, or if the hardtop was even delivered? Also, do you remember the MSRP on these cars and whether you were able to sell them for more? John AK1103
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: Mark IV on January 01, 2007, 20:55:37: John,
   The hardtop was a "one-off", Brain didn't want to do it and after he did I was told "no more." The owner with the hardtop regreted ordering it as he never uses it...he still has the car and his brother bought an 87 MK IV from me in 1999 in a deal I brokered.

   The cars were $39,950.00 plus freight at first and, no, we did not mark them up over list.

   There will be many more interesting documents to come.
   Rick
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: ak1234 on January 02, 2007, 00:59:17: Rick,

   Your a true gentlemen ... thanks .. I hope 1234 comes up some day ??

   Ron
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: Mark IV on January 02, 2007, 01:05:47: Ron,

   Sorry. 1234 is beyond my time with AC/Autokraft but the info exists in the "good book"

   Trevor, what say you? Time for the copies to come forth...

   Rick
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: TLegate on January 02, 2007, 17:42:34: So its back into my cold dark loft is it? OK, I'll be back......
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: Mark IV on January 02, 2007, 18:22:39: Trevor,
Better you crawling around a cold, damp loft than me! My basement is dry and warm, just too damn many boxes to sort through. I am making progress and will continue to post the info here if wanted.
Rick
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: TLegate on January 02, 2007, 21:01:01: Hokay - found it....as per the 'Bible' entry....

   AK1234
   Date: 8/7/88 (note: that is 7/8/88 the American way!)
   Customer details: Dick Cranston Ford
    Route 2
    East Greenwich
    Rhode Island 02818 USA
   Body colour: Jaguar British Racing Green
   Interior: Tan
   Tonneau: Tan
   Modifications: Spinners - in-car audio
   Engine : 302 HO EFI
   Ign: C43413
   Boot: FS889
   Bonnet:FS880
   Fuel: JC705

   and that's it I'm afraid.
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: TLegate on January 02, 2007, 21:12:13: AK1103
   Date: 23/10/85
   Customer details: Karcz Ford
    Highway 32 South
    Pulaski
    Wisconsin 54162 USA
    SA9AK3021FAO17103
   Colour: Blue, Mercedes Nautical metallic
   Trim: Black
   Modifications: Hood scoop
   Ign: RO1372
   G/box: SAFE1042
   Boot:FS922
   Bonnet: FS880
   Fuel: JC111
   Engine: 302/49 states
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: TLegate on January 02, 2007, 21:20:21: AK1029
   Date: 13/06/84
   Customer details: R.Benedette
   Kraftfahrzeuge & Zussehor
   Geibelstrasse 4
   4000 Dusseldorf 1
   West Germany
   Colour; Black
   Trim: Red/Black piping
   Tonneau: Black
   Modifications: Hood scoop - Short nose - Alloy wheels - front air intake
   Ign: NH2715
   G/box: SAFE6137
   Boot: FS932
   Bonnet: FS913
   Fuel: FT/VM203
   Engine: to be fitted in America
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: TLegate on January 02, 2007, 21:25:40: AK1121
   Date: 13/01/86
   Customer details: Muck Motor Sales Inc.
   10 Campbell Boulevard
   Gietzville
   New York 14068 USA
   SA9AK3023FAO1712
   Colour: Mercedes Red
   Trim: Black
   Tonneau: Black
   Modifications: Hood scoop
   Ign: RO1128
   G/box: SAFE1042
   Boot: FS963
   Bonnet: FS953
   Fuel: JC104
   Engine: 302
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: Mark IV on January 02, 2007, 23:54:32: Trevor,
   Not that "Muck" guy again? I hear he is best buds with A.L. and together they are going to resurrect Alvis or some such old tat.

   Rick
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: TLegate on January 03, 2007, 10:05:34: I look forward to seeing your magnificent Alvis Rick. A partnership made in heaven, to be sure. (Will it look a bit like a re-bodied SmartFourFour..?)
   and by popular demand (Gregg):

   AK1203
   Date: 19/6/87
   Customer details: Auto Haus Rochester
   99 Marsh Road
   Rochester
   NY 14445 USA
   SA9AK302HA017203
   Colour: Porsche Guards Red
   Trim: Black
   Tonneau: Black
   Modifications: Black wheel centres
   Ign: C13344
   G/box: SAFE 1042
   Boot: FS940
   Bonnet: FS880
   Fuel: JC701
   Engine: 302 injection
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: gblue on January 03, 2007, 17:52:51: Aloha and thanks so much...can't believe you had the records.....that completes the history......I wonder why the wheels were painted black......were any more done like that?
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: cobramk4 on January 03, 2007, 22:26:44: Hello Gents,
   Any info on AK1087? I have nothing substantial on the car, other than the original purchaser's name. When I visited the AC factory (Frimley)in June 2002, Cyril Harvey was able to produce a very battered 3-ring binder which did contain a build sheet for my car, but was not allowed to make me a copy. I did buy a factory oil cooler setup while I was there though. Thank You for anything you find.

   AK1087
   August 1985
   Porsche Platin
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: ak1234 on January 04, 2007, 00:55:41: Yes 1234 has black wheel centers and Brass spinners which is odd to me..never seen brass ones before.

   Thanks again for the info Trevor..

   Ron
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: C9OBY on January 04, 2007, 12:40:20: quote:
Originally posted by cobramk4

Hello Gents,
   Any info on AK1087? I have nothing substantial on the car, other than the original purchaser's name. When I visited the AC factory (Frimley)in June 2002, Cyril Harvey was able to produce a very battered 3-ring binder which did contain a build sheet for my car, but was not allowed to make me a copy. I did buy a factory oil cooler setup while I was there though. Thank You for anything you find.

   AK1087
   August 1985
   Porsche Platin



   I visited Frimley in 2005 and Cyril did photocopy the build sheet for my CRS. Perhaps due to the fact that they were in departure mode...? I would suggest contacting John Owen in Malta who still has all the documents. You may be able to get a faxed copy if their stance has changed. Alternatively, contact Steve Grey of Brooklands Motor Company who holds a lot of information on the cars - he may have copies himself.
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: cobramk4 on January 04, 2007, 19:55:46: Hi Ron,
Yes they look brass when they oxidize. If you polish them with a decent metal polish (Like Noxon), they turn very bright again.
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Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: REV on January 28, 2007, 12:57:35: Ron,
My car AK1023 has black wheels and brass spinners as well. Never quite sure whether the spinners should be polished bright and shiny or not though! So far I've left them unpolished. As the rest of it is "as new" it gives a patina and a little bit of age to the car. What do you do with yours?
Nick
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: Jan_AC_MKIV_1227 on January 28, 2007, 14:06:18: same here, blkack wheels and brass spinners
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: AC Ace Bristol on January 28, 2007, 15:16:03: Trevor

   Any chance of delving into the achives and confirming how many MK 1Vs were actually supplied with Hard Top.

   Barry Howsley's AK1260 is the only one Ive seen, however on quickly scanning through the AC Register I note the following MK1Vs also have HardTops (Factory Fitted?)

   AK1148, AK1171, AK1182, AK1192, AK1248, AK1249, AK1261, AK1265 and AK1273.(total TEN )

   LeMans style Aluminium HardTops are manufactured By Steve Gray " Brooklands Motor Company" and
   by Aubrey Finsburgh "Classic Autos" Both these require modified half size boot lids.

   Keith
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: Mark IV on January 28, 2007, 16:11:45: AK1116 whose invoice is shown above has a factory hardtop fitted. It was the only one I sold and the only one in the US as of 1986.
Rick
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: TLegate on January 29, 2007, 23:33:39: Seems like it's 11, according to the entries in the Chassis Register......

   1116 - 1171 - 1182 - 1186 - 1192 - 1248 - 1249 - 1260 - 1261 - 1265 - 1273

   There is no reference to any 'modifications' (extras) to 1148, so it might have had a top, just not recorded. I may be wrong, but those are the only cars I found in the list.
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: AC Ace Bristol on February 03, 2007, 00:02:25: Trevor

   Thank you for your prompt reply, I know of some 6 people with CRS and MK1V all seeking details on availability of suitable hardtops. Not sure if Gerry Hawkridge units fit.

   My interest, is simply, having been offered a Hardtop with spare flat screen plus a pair of side curtains at a price I couldn't turn down. It was a case of buy now and store in the garage or workshop. Little is known of How many Aces have hard tops wether they be AC, Bristol or 2.6 Ford powered, Maybe some one out there has some info which could be fed through to the respective Registrars, Then !! there had to be a catch, Some-one just might pen a feature in ACtion. Seriously any info would be appreciated by both Tony Bancroft and me.( Will attempt to place pic or two on forum ....... Dont hold your breath, it could take a while... ..

   Keith
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: Chafford on February 03, 2007, 08:45:57: quote:
Originally posted by AC Ace Bristol


   Trevor

   Thank you for your prompt reply, I know of some 6 people with CRS and MK1V all seeking details on availability of suitable hardtops. Not sure if Gerry Hawkridge units fit.

   My interest, is simply, having been offered a Hardtop with spare flat screen plus a pair of side curtains at a price I couldn't turn down. It was a case of buy now and store in the garage or workshop. Little is known of How many Aces have hard tops wether they be AC, Bristol or 2.6 Ford powered, Maybe some one out there has some info which could be fed through to the respective Registrars, Then !! there had to be a catch, Some-one just might pen a feature in ACtion. Seriously any info would be appreciated by both Tony Bancroft and me.( Will attempt to place pic or two on forum ....... Dont hold your breath, it could take a while... ..

   Keith



   Try Dave Brookes at DB replicas (posts as 'Dave' on this site.)He does a very nice hard top.

   http://www.v8cobra.co.uk/htm/home.htm
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: TLegate on February 03, 2007, 16:51:44: Gerry makes spares that fit original-shape cars. He is always having to advise the people who phone to order a top for their Dax, GD, Crendon etc that those cars are a Different Shape (stupid) only to be met with disbelief and ill-mannered comments. (it's difficult to tell a 'Cobra' owner that their pride and joy aint Cobra shaped...)
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: Mark IV on February 03, 2007, 17:41:34: Brian Angliss told me that each hardtop had to be hand fitted as the deck shapes on the MK IVs varied. Just as did the early AC cars. My suggestion was to make a fiberglass top with extra material at the bottom so they could be "trimmed to fit"......Brian thought I was daft!

Rick
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: Chafford on February 03, 2007, 18:18:13: Did all the MkIVs have 'AK' chassis numbers including those after Brian Angliss bought AC Cars?
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: SB7019 on February 03, 2007, 18:28:51: If you include the Superblowers as MkIV's, these were prefixed ACSB7xxx.
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: AC Ace Bristol on February 06, 2007, 00:13:31: Trevor

   Saw Gerry the other week, he has the Origonal AC Ace Hardtop mould for Curved screen with rounded corner rear perspex window.

   He was aware of the flat screen version, however upon closer inspection we conclude that AC would have kept the rear window the same and maybe just modified / adapted the mould to produce flat and Curved screen version hardTops.

   My top is Ex Simon Taylor who confirms it origonated in 61/62 period from AC Factory Thames Ditton, Fits AC Ace and early Mk11 Cobra.

   Buying rear window hopefully next week and fitting same day.............At least things materialise from Gerry's more than can be said from AC Malta. ( Only Cost £30.00 return to Fly to Malta from Luton, must arrange group trip to the Factory, visit Owen etc and See Just What is left of our favourite Marque.

   Keith

   Keith
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: TLegate on February 06, 2007, 15:27:36: 30 quid!!? I must have been looking in the wrong place last year! Mind you, as I live a stones throw from Gatwick, I tend to forget there are other airports. No cheap flights from there though, so I put it on the back burner. Curses
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Post by: cobham cobra on February 06, 2007, 16:17:49: But Stelios has re-named it Luton/London so it can't be that far away .....can it ? I might be interested in an ACOC weekend in Malta. Given that the weekend forecast in London is snow, Malta sounds good. Is anyone else interested ?
John.
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Post by: SB7019 on February 06, 2007, 16:43:17: John.

At £30 for a flight it sounds like a good idea! I'll look on the web to see if there are any good hotel deals. What sort of dates did you have in mind?
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Post by: SB7019 on February 06, 2007, 16:50:20: Cheapest 4 Star I can find starts at £14 per night! At that rate it's less than the cost of me staying here and heating the house - must make sure Jean has a warm coat!
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Post by: cobham cobra on February 06, 2007, 17:37:30: Now that IS funny [:)]
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Post by: SB7019 on February 06, 2007, 17:46:38: Just in case you may think I have lost my senses and have suicidal tendencies I did show the post to her and got full permission before I sent it.
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: cobham cobra on February 06, 2007, 18:05:50: Well, yes the thought did cross my mind. Do you have to obtain permission for each contribution or do you just submit a report to management at the end of the day ?[B)]
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Post by: SB7019 on February 06, 2007, 19:43:39: Our policies dictate that normal day to day communication can be undertaken without prior approval, though is subject to random audits. However items that may be considered of a sensitive nature do require concurrence by the appropriate authority. Failure to adhere to these policies can lead to serious censequences and would have certainly led to the withdrawal of priviledges such as the magnificent Filet de Bouef au Poivre that I have just enjoyed.
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Post by: Lewis AK1069 on August 12, 2007, 14:56:22: was 1069 originally white it is black now?????
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: Lewis AK1069 on August 12, 2007, 15:49:49: Hi mark ,do you know why this car had a color change
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Post by: ak1234 on August 12, 2007, 16:56:41: I dont think after the car was delivered in white anyone here would know why it was painted black ..your best bet is too take the info and contact the original owner .. I dont think you will egt the answer your looking for.

Ron
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Post by: westcott on February 25, 2013, 14:55:35: Hi Rick,

   are there any records about AK 1106 available in your knowledge base?

   Thanks, Uwe
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Post by: Alan Faulkner-Stevens on February 25, 2013, 18:36:10: I still have the master pattern to produce "fastback" style hard-tops if any owner needs one. Custom fitted to your individual car, so perfect fit. Highest quality top which uses all factory positions for easy, no modification, location.
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Post by: marklotus on February 25, 2013, 22:55:29: Can anyone tell me or show me what type of weatherstrip/molding is at bottom of hardtop, where it sits on the body of the car? What are measurements and profile so I could try to find or replicate? Thank you.
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: Mark IV on February 26, 2013, 13:20:54: quote:
Originally posted by westcott

Hi Rick,

   are there any records about AK 1106 available in your knowledge base?

   Thanks, Uwe



   I will look and report.
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Post by: AK1301 on March 08, 2013, 01:48:37: Hi Rick,
I have 1061. Do you have records of that? Sold in CA I think.
Title: Mark IV Invoices/forms/etc.
Post by: Mark IV on March 08, 2013, 11:43:03: quote:
Originally posted by AK1301

Hi Rick,
   I have 1061. Do you have records of that? Sold in CA I think.



   I think so, I will look this weekend.