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AC Owners Club Forum => Mk IV, Superblower, CRS and other Continuation Cars Forum => Topic started by: BBK on September 18, 2013, 01:40:18
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Here is a link to an ad on Hemmings for a 1993 AC Mk. IV for sale at Streetside Classic Cars in Atlanta. Looks very nice. Low miles. Flat dash. Price is $139,995 U.S.D. No affiliation...just as information.
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no affiliation... and no link [:o)] !
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Originally posted by French Frie
no affiliation... and no link [:o)] !
Sorry! Here's a link directly to the dealer's site.
http://www.streetsideclassics.com/showcar.php/atl/1566/1993-AC-Cobra-Lightweight
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But it is not a lightweight
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Originally posted by dkp_cobra
But it is not a lightweight
If not a lightweight, then why would the factory chassis plate have an "AKL" designation? Did the factory ever outfit non lightweight cars with AKL chassis plates? Could the plate be a forgery of some sort in order to mis-represent the car for possible financial gain?
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Originally posted by dkp_cobra
But it is not a lightweight
At least the car seems to have no Lightweight feature except for the straight dash and the missing cabin leather edging. This supports the observation made in another thread of this forum, if I remember correctly, that there were MkIVs with an 'AKL' chassis number prefix that left the factory without any significant distinctive mark versus the standard MkIVs. - 'Lightweights'?
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Strange, but not impossible, but vin plate does not indicate and is an AKL not the sum of the parts/ additions and deletions. These chassis plates are pretty easy to obtain.
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Well. Here`s a thing. The ACOC MkIV registry lists this chassis number as AK 1472. No 'L' !!!!
So when did it appear on the chassis plate???? Has someone been naughty?
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Maybe the original plate fell off and when the new one was made there was aslip with an"L"?
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I have a blank chassis plate if you'd like a new category..maybe AKLN....N could be be for n**
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NOT? LOL.
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Or nuts...LOL
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Perhaps it was a mistake from the factory? I have some correspondence in my file from the original owner of my car to Ms. Paula Hopkins at the AC factory about the VIN number on the metal plate on my car (engine compartment) that differed from the VIN number on the cowling plate and manufacturer's certificate. Ends up there were two incorrect VIN numbers on my car. The factory issued a completely new set of plates (engine VIN plate and cowling vin plate) for installation on my car with another (different) VIN number that was finally consistent so the owner could register the car with the California Dept. of Motor Vehicles! I just provided all of this information to Allan to clear up information he had in his Registry. So....funny things can happen!
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Could the register be wrong?
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All of the above are of course possible. I don`t see a lot 'Lightweight' about it though, like the triple wiper setup etc, especially when comparing to AK1500 on eBay UK (http://"http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330964637928?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_1661wt_1284").
We`ve discussed this car, AKL 1472, in a few threads earlier this year.
Hopefully someone with a bit more 'hands-on' knowledge may be able to add something here?
Calling Mr. Muck!
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Originally posted by Flyinghorse
Could the register be wrong?
It seems so. Allan's registry information was the same as the incorrect VIN originally issued for my car. I scanned in and emailed to Allan the original correspondence between owner #1 and Ms. Hopkins and her letter back stating the correct VIN. The new VIN plates Ms. Hopkins sent via courier are now affixed on the car and I provided the necessary photos of these now corrected plates on my Mk. IV to Allan. So, the factory seems to have made an error originally which was corrected but it seems that the records provided the Club may not have been revised.
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What are we talking about? I can add the "L" in one minute to my number plate if I wish, but it would take much more time to convert the car to the real lightweight bumper style or the different door style.
The car showed in the advertise is a modified (different dash board, that's all) standard MK IV. And even if the number plate claims it is CSX... it is still a standard MK IV.
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One thing that is beyond doubt...it`s a damned fine looking Vee hickle!
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Originally posted by nikbj68
One thing that is beyond doubt...it`s a damned fine looking Vee hickle!
That's true, but the price ...
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The USD asking price translates into some 89,000 GBP or 104,000 €. I think that is not out of scope, in particular if the car is as good in shape as it appears from the ad.
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That still does not make it AK lightweight
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Of course not.
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Looking at the pictures i can see one feature that indicates it could be a lightweight ( straight dash) and a dozen that prove it is not.
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Originally posted by 302EFI
The USD asking price translates into some 89,000 GBP or 104,000 €. I think that is not out of scope, in particular if the car is as good in shape as it appears from the ad.
For 104T€ you have the car in Bremerhaven but not at home. You have to pay custom and VAT. Even if you get it via Rotterdam you have to pay it. It is not a historic car.
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That is true, Peter. But if you want to judge whether a price is reasonable, you should not take into account the additional costs which a foreign buyer needs to incur for getting the car into his home country. This car may well be sold within the US. My point was simply that the asking price is not significantly higher than the asking prices for comparable cars offered elsewhere, for instance in UK or Germany.
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Originally posted by 302EFI
That is true, Peter. But if you want to judge whether a price is reasonable, you should not take into account the additional costs which a foreign buyer needs to incur for getting the car into his home country. This car may well be sold within the US. My point was simply that the asking price is not significantly higher than the asking prices for comparable cars offered elsewhere, for instance in UK or Germany.
Hi Jürgen,
I add the TAX and VAT because I have the impression that the prices for MK IV's are quite different in UK/Germany/Europe and USA. So, I think if you compare prices you have to do it wrt. the same market or you have to add the costs to bring it to that market of comparison.
Peter
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It is now SOLD.
Malcolm