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General Forum / Ethanol & additives ?

« on: June 15, 2012, 17:05:47 »

Now an e-petition - with enough signatures, the government must reconsider:
   
   http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/15535

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Vintage, PVT & 2 Litre Forum / Vintage AC-6 in 'Downton Abbey'

« on: June 12, 2012, 01:23:42 »

Here's the AC, in a still from the forthcoming new series of Downton Abbey:
   
   

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General Forum / AC badge - which model please?

« on: June 12, 2012, 01:15:46 »

Do you mean resurrect the original logo as the new club logo?
   
   Here it is complete with wreath:
   
   

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General Forum / AC badge - which model please?

« on: June 11, 2012, 14:49:21 »

Classicus – Here’s a photo of an enamel sign I have. I show it as (a) it’s in the Art Nouveau style, to which you refer, with its colours and scrolls and shows the rounded corners to the triangle of the letter ‘A’ (b) it was for the Automobile Club of Great Britain and Ireland, which used predominantly the letters AC in their logo, as can be seen. The ACGBI received its Royal warrant in 1907, becoming the Royal Automobile Club (RAC), so this sign predates that.
   
   
   Robin – I started looking into other companies, and societies, that used the letters AC (hence the above), though I’m convinced these badges would have been used, somewhere, by AC Cars. The digging at the hospital retrieved other items not directly military, for example filigree, a ladies brooch, a sewing box, bedpost knobs etc. Old rubbish tips can be a treasure trove of bygones!
   
   Finally, some photos of the AC logo from the period 1911 to early 20’s. The first, Auto-Carrier’s logo, note the hyphen between the ‘A’ and ‘C’ that was carried through. The second is an advert for the AC Fivet, with the third showing the AC logo from that ad, and lastly, the nickel radiator badge of an early 20’s car.
   
   I think these show the badges we have discussed must be linked to AC Cars, but where used and precisely when, I don’t know. All three are made of brass/copper and show no nickel but stippling between the letters, which may be relevant.  The one that started the correspondence is shown for comparison.
   
   All the best
   
   
   
   
   

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General Forum / AC badge - which model please?

« on: June 10, 2012, 15:59:31 »

quote:Originally posted by Robin A Woolmer
   
Is this prior art? to the use by Auto Carriers? some cap badges have similar script!
   

Hi Robin
   
   Much too big for the likes of a cap badge - this one's nearly five inches diameter! (See pic 2). If used prior to AutoCarriers then the famous AC logo had been stolen all along....perish the thought.

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General Forum / AC badge - which model please?

« on: June 10, 2012, 14:54:01 »

A little snippet to add.
   
   I was told the following last night:
   A few years back groundwork was taking place at the site of the Royal Victoria Military Hospital at Netley, Southampton. They unearthed many army cap badges, buttons, old coins and, guess what.....the badge below! The hospital was used for some 100 years so this doesn’t help with dating the badge.
   
   They say it was curved, made of brass or copper, and they assumed it had come from a radiator. It was sent to the museum of the Army Medical Services.
   
   

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General Forum / AC badge - which model please?

« on: June 09, 2012, 13:53:46 »

quote:Originally posted by Spikey-fish
   
Are you wanting to sell this?
   

The opposite. I bidded on this badge at auction yesterday. The owner had entered some very rare and genuine automobile badges, from the likes of Mathis and Brennabor, and this AC badge was advertised as being from the 1930/40s. I thought it was earlier as AC used this style of script particularly in the Edwardian period (pre 1920), but I was unsure if they may have used it subsequently, even for nostalgic reasons, and maybe not as a radiator logo. I have photos showing similar style badges on the Fivet model and I found a photo of a unique radiator mascot, probably 1920’s, of a bear holding the exact same badge (see below).
   
   Apart from the posting above I emailed two other AC owners who both thought the badge ‘very old’ but could not be more precise. Another long-standing AC devotee has replied saying a 1921 car that he once owned had a badge ‘very much like this one’.
   
   I left a bid of (up to) £100, but I now know the bidding powered past this and the final price, with tax added, was more than £150, so two people, or more, obviously knew something about this badge that I didn’t, whether that was its rarity, collectability, I don’t know….
   
   

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Vintage, PVT & 2 Litre Forum / AC Greyhound mascot?

« on: June 07, 2012, 21:45:46 »

There is a 'Greyhound of the Road' mascot for sale on Ebay with starting bid of £165 (I don't know how this compares to the Louis Lejeune new price, as it's not priced on their website).
   
   Also, I'm unsure of provenance as the seller says there's no other markings on it and there are many repro mascots coming from Eastern Europe, so caveat emptor
   
   http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AC-GREYHOUND-MASCOT-/330744125574?pt=UK_Car_Parts_Vehicles_Automobila_ET&hash=item4d01e2d886

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Ace, Aceca & Greyhound Forum / Ace/Aceca Instruction Manual

« on: May 30, 2012, 22:43:02 »

Auction ended. In excess of £50 bidded (with postage)

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Vintage, PVT & 2 Litre Forum / Old photo of AC Ferry Works & a question

« on: April 02, 2012, 22:47:30 »

Great seeing the 'then' and 'now' shots on Howard's weblink above. The enlarged shot shows the AutoCarriers and Ferry Works script on the gates. For those that were not at the ACOC National last year, held at Thames Ditton, it was at these same buildings that the vintage AC's, and the earlier Sociable and Box, were displayed and the ACOC plaque was unveiled (see the earlier postings for links to photos).
   
   It's an intersting car in the shot outside the factory. Certainly 1910-1914, with its shaped tail, prominent hubs and substantial axle it may be an Austin 15, though that rear shape was quite a popular design then. One thing's for sure, it's not an AC Fivet of the period.

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Vintage, PVT & 2 Litre Forum / 12/24 for sale

« on: March 12, 2012, 11:00:36 »

You're right. Bidding from the floor didn't reach the reserve, but a deal was agreed on the day - the price paid was £17,650. Maybe bought by a dealer? Very nice car for the money.

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Vintage, PVT & 2 Litre Forum / 12/24 for sale

« on: March 11, 2012, 14:52:32 »

Was this the hammer price? Does commission at 10%, + VAT on commission at 20%, need adding? Total price?

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Vintage, PVT & 2 Litre Forum / 12/24 for sale

« on: February 22, 2012, 21:03:27 »

From the photographs looks in nice condition...

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Vintage, PVT & 2 Litre Forum / 1927 Monte Carlo Rally

« on: February 02, 2012, 17:27:30 »

PD 9058 was a ‘works’ entry that both Bruce and Brownsort drove. This early car had narrow tyres, six-stud disc wheels, no front-wheel brakes etc – it's most likely a four-cylinder (the factory’s first use of the Six in any type of competitive event was late ’23). PD 9058 doesn’t survive today.
   
   Back to the 1927 Monte Carlo Rally, here’s another pic of Mildred with PF 6465 (and crowd) in the UK. Amazing, this same car then went around Europe and North Africa, and then the Bruces drove from London to 250 miles north of the Arctic Circle, further north than anyone had driven before (imagine the roads), where they ceremoniously planted the Union flag! That car doesn’t survive either, little wonder I suppose, as it had a very hard life...
   
   

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Vintage, PVT & 2 Litre Forum / 1927 Monte Carlo Rally

« on: February 02, 2012, 10:59:02 »

Here's a nice photograph of Mildred Bruce (the Hon Mrs Victor Bruce), having won the Concours d'Elegance at Brighton in 1928 with an AC - the models from that year now sporting the taller radiator and pointed front wings.