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Title: AC Cars LTD
Post by: Chafford on September 04, 2015, 21:00:33
Another attempt by AC to import cars to the United States?
   
   http://www.accarsltd.com/
Title: AC Cars LTD
Post by: AC Ace Bristol on September 05, 2015, 01:28:54
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   Ace Bristol.. [?]..[?]
   
   Sure makes interesting reading... until you read the small print at the bottom of the specification sheet:
   
   Components not supplied..
   
   Engine, transmission, shifter, drive shaft, engine wiring harness, ECU, battery, engine and transmission mounts.
   
   GOOD LUCK AC Cars Ltd....
   
   Keith..[:(]
Title: AC Cars LTD
Post by: Chafford on September 05, 2015, 15:19:06
This has absolutely zero credibility - merely more smoke and mirrors from the AC company. The car on the website looks like Rob Hendriks' car, and we all know of the trouble he has had getting the car registered in New Zealand and the support (or lack of it) from AC.
Title: AC Cars LTD
Post by: nikbj68 on September 05, 2015, 15:23:55
But it can`t be Rob`s car, his is a 50th Anniversary Cobra, and the website is selling Ace Bristol(without Bristol Engine) and Ace221, whatever the Hell that may be!!!!!!
Title: AC Cars LTD
Post by: rstainer on September 05, 2015, 17:40:12
"The principals of the business have extensive first-hand experience in the niche vehicle industry from over one hundred years of combined experience in research & development, engineering, manufacturing, branding, marketing, sales, service and customer satisfaction."
   
   The only one who identifies himself is Brent Fenimore, no stranger to the law (eg SHELBY AUTOMOBILES, INC etc Plaintiffs vs R. BRENT FENIMORE Defendant (Superior Court for the State of California)).
   
   So nothing new.
   
   RS
Title: AC Cars LTD
Post by: Chafford on September 05, 2015, 17:44:11
quote:
Originally posted by nikbj68
   
But it can`t be Rob`s car, his is a 50th Anniversary Cobra, and the website is selling Ace Bristol(without Bristol Engine) and Ace221, whatever the Hell that may be!!!!!!
   

   
   The car in the photos looks remarkably similar though, same colour, same engine.
Title: AC Cars LTD
Post by: jbottini on September 05, 2015, 18:22:19
There. Was an author here in the colonies that had "Fenimore" as a middle name....but then he wrote fiction
Title: AC Cars LTD
Post by: TLegate on September 05, 2015, 21:15:09
And off we go again....
   
   I can only hope anyone gullible enough to even consider these 'offerings' will carry out due diligence by checking out the history of Brent Fenimore. And then run for the hills.
   
   As we all know the 'AC Ace 221' (nope, me neither) is 2700 as purchased by Rob in New Zealand (brave man) when it was referred as a Cobra. Pics taken at Boss Motor Co in the UK. So that's all okay.
   
   And in the History section (my, don't we laugh) has a photo of a MkIV Lightweight scanned from my book and reproduced without my permission. But of course, I'm SO flattered... :(
   
   I think the valium is wearing off so time to go
Title: AC Cars LTD
Post by: Rob.Hendriks on September 06, 2015, 00:44:02
think there maybe a glut of leftover anniversary cars someone is trying to get rid of... all bar one of the pictures are of 2700, taken from the Boss advertisement (even the VIN plate)
   Trevor perhaps we should be so kind to ask for the photos to be removed, would be interesting to see what they are replaced with
Title: AC Cars LTD
Post by: TLegate on September 07, 2015, 11:28:05
Indeed Rob - however, we are not so small-minded to refuse anyone to make profitable use of something we own. It's wot makes us decent people, innit?
Title: AC Cars LTD
Post by: ACOCArch on September 11, 2015, 12:48:02
quote:

   http://www.accarsltd.com/
   

   
   The early AC Cars history is incorrect too! For example, Weller Bros was founded in 1899. The 1901 date came from the British Museum date stamp on an advertisement, and has no historic significance! Although incorporated in 1907, Auto-Carriers Ltd did not make anything until 1909. When did the Weller 6 cylinder production engine have 4 valves per cylinder? To my recollection, only some versions of the 1920s 4-cylinder sprint/record car had this feature.
Title: AC Cars LTD
Post by: rstainer on September 13, 2015, 15:55:31
This AC Cars Ltd (Distributors of AC Cars) is an interesting one:
  • No address
  • A Nevada area code
  • No results from an internet search of Nevada (or any other states) companies of this name, unless I'm missing something.

    •    Its website refers to Acedes Holdings LLC, the owner of the 'AC' trade mark, but that won't help a potential purchaser: it's a St Kitts-Nevis company, with no physical presence whatsoever.
       
       This Kitts-Nevis company does at least have a forwarding address: c/o AC Cars, 20 Wenlock Road, London N1 7GU, but this won't help a potential purchaser either: 20 Wenlock Road is the address of 'London Presence', a well-established company offering mail forwarding and virtual office services. So no physical presence here.
       
       The message: Caveat emptor, unless you're ready to settle for a virtual car.
       
       RS
    Title: AC Cars LTD
    Post by: jbottini on September 21, 2015, 16:28:10
    Me thinks me smells an A.L.
    Title: AC Cars LTD
    Post by: nikbj68 on September 21, 2015, 16:47:22
    AC Cars Ltd. & Cobra spotted 'Over the Road' @ Goodwood Revival. Jurgen Mohr told me of 'many' upgrades to current model to enhance driving experience.
       
       (http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q113/nikbj68/Goodwood%20Revival%202015/AC%20LTD_zpsgc7oi6lv.jpg) (http://"http://s134.photobucket.com/user/nikbj68/media/Goodwood%20Revival%202015/AC%20LTD_zpsgc7oi6lv.jpg.html")
       
       (http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q113/nikbj68/Goodwood%20Revival%202015/AC%20LTD1_zpspzieeuln.jpg) (http://"http://s134.photobucket.com/user/nikbj68/media/Goodwood%20Revival%202015/AC%20LTD1_zpspzieeuln.jpg.html")
    Title: AC Cars LTD
    Post by: dkp_cobra on September 21, 2015, 17:19:28
    quote:
    Originally posted by nikbj68
       
    AC Cars Ltd. & Cobra spotted 'Over the Road' @ Goodwood Revival. Jurgen Mohr told me of 'many' upgrades to current model to enhance driving experience.
       
       ...
       

       
       like driving on european streets with legal registration?
    Title: AC Cars LTD
    Post by: nikbj68 on September 21, 2015, 17:24:01
    No. Didn`t mention that bit.
    Title: AC Cars LTD
    Post by: Rob.Hendriks on September 22, 2015, 10:25:38
    Driving on any roads and legal registration would be made all the easier with a process of continuous improvement.
       
       Most businesses that operate in small niche markets, value their customers and hold them in high esteem, welcoming their feedback so that they can continuously improve their product and hopefully hold on to them as repeat customers or that they will generate further word of mouth business.
       
       Given the issues that have been encountered with 2700 and the minimal (minor jig changes) cost of the changes that could be initiated to make future cars compliant, not just in our jurisdiction, (which seems one of the more stringent, along with Switzerland) but globally, why would you not do this.
       These issues, remedial actions and general quality control have been brought to the attention of the management, with no response at any level.
       
       Would I recommend someone to buy an AC from the present management, most certainly not. It seems that they  operate on the (military) principle of like it or lump it.
       
       Moral of this story - if you are considering buying a recent AC, go for a proven design such as the CRS, SB  or MKIV, at least they seem to be built by people that have a conscience and are more concerned with the quality of the product delivered, rather than minor improvements to the driving experience, which most owners would carry out themselves, should they wish
    Title: AC Cars LTD
    Post by: rstainer on September 22, 2015, 14:50:38
    Rob,
       
       Do you know who 'the present management' are in terms of names, phone numbers (not a virtual office number) and physical addresses with bums (theirs) on seats?
       
       RS
       
       PS: My rule in life is never deal with someone if you can't work out where to find them.
    Title: AC Cars LTD
    Post by: TLegate on September 22, 2015, 17:01:16
    Well I know they're not in Malta, if that helps....
    Title: AC Cars LTD
    Post by: Rob.Hendriks on September 23, 2015, 11:18:18
    RS
       
       Have responded privately to your question, there is a limit to personal information (regardless of our opinions of the persons involved) that should be broadcast on a public forum
       
       With a lot of online due diligence and with "friends" in Herefordshire it is not too hard to find their details, both physical and electronic
       
       RH
    Title: AC Cars LTD
    Post by: rstainer on September 23, 2015, 15:32:44
    Rob,
       
       It was a somewhat rhetorical question, enquiring about the public information supplied to product users and prospective purchasers.
       
       The principal public UK corporate information source is Companies House, a UK government service. Users & prospective purchasers of AC Cars Limited products will not find this information (co # 05226569) encouraging. The company has only one officer, country of residence Israel but nationality British. Companies House also has this officer previously listed as nationality South African with a North Sydney, NSW residential correspondence address.
       
       AC has or had companies in Malta, Cyprus, St Kitts and the US with truly mobile officers, so one could say that the marque is international in more senses than one. But that doesn't help the poor punter who wants someone at the end of the phone to answer product or technical queries.
       
       RS
    Title: AC Cars LTD
    Post by: Rob.Hendriks on September 24, 2015, 07:17:53
    Robin
       
       The process as instructed by the mamangement, is that you contact AC Cars via email with the details of your query / problem. It is then decided by the management whether your issue will be addressed or not - easy :)
       
       Reality is that you are either mechanically adept and resolve the issue yourself, or get a garage to do the work. I have been somewhat lucky in that one of the benefits of the certification process has been that the car has had to be disassembled for inspection and reassembled. The process has revealed many hidden problems that have subsequently been rectified and also allowed me to build a quite comprehensive dossier of componentry used, that is invaluable for the long term maintenance of the vehicle
       
       Rob
    Title: AC Cars LTD
    Post by: nikbj68 on September 25, 2015, 10:31:24
    quote:
    Originally posted by Rob.Hendriks The process has...allowed me to build a quite comprehensive dossier of componentry used, that is invaluable for the long term maintenance of the vehicle...
       
    and will be a useful resource for the other owner of a similar vehicle! [;)]