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AC Owners Club Forum => General Forum => Topic started by: Alan Faulkner-Stevens on March 14, 2010, 17:54:12
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There is much talk about the MkIV on the forum, with the latest show version being heavily improved bodily and build quality wise from the first one the press tried. Sorry, it does not have any blood-line to a proper English built car, but there you go..
Anyway, check out www.iconicmotors.com
This latest version carrying the AC badge is interesting, to say the least
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Sorry should have put MkVI, not MkIV my apologies
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Not to belabor the point, but this is one more "license fee" product that is NOT an "AC" in any real way.
I suggest that a new production run of Trabants could be "AC"s for the right sum.............
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I am sure you are right about the quality of engineering on the car, given the available pictures. But as to the styling, well the original Cobra is what it is because of the way it looks and the development of its chassis and drivetrain, in fact its blood-line. It has history and people love it for that. Is it not the main point and why Club members are getting so upset about these latest AC's, is the fact that fundamentally if you have enough money you can buy the right to put the famous badge on any vehicle, which has only to have a passing resemblence to the original. While it is the brands owners perfect right to do what so ever he wishes with his brand, at some point along this road the marque looses its tradition/heritage and the brand stops being admired for its history/blood-line.
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Dejá Vu? Ironic AC (http://"http://www.acownersclub.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1330")
[:D]
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The computerized gas cap is so cool [:p]
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I know this thing was met with a lot of skepticism on this forum, but frankly, the design may not be to your liking, one has to admit it looks extremely well engineered.
And with that in mind, it's not a bad successor to the lineage. Although the body design maybe somewhat "caricaturish", it is a modern rendition of the classic shape.
Many did not like the FORD Cobra either, when they came out a few years ago with the prototype. Too bad. I would have loved to see that one go into production.
I, for one, hope that this allegiance with Iconic Motors will work out.
I also hope to see one for real this weekend at Monterey/Pebble Beach!
Gus
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http://www.5min.com/Video/The-800hp-Iconic-GTR-Review-202154150
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Still not buying it......
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Nice idea and it looks like good engineering, but I keep thinking that it is somehow less than the sum of its parts.
It’s a good answer to a question nobody was asking, or is that just me ?
John.
So who is going to be the first here to add flashing lights to their roll bar ?
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Originally posted by cobham cobra
Nice idea and it looks like good engineering, but I keep thinking that it is somehow less than the sum of its parts.
It’s a good answer to a question nobody was asking, or is that just me ?
John.
So who is going to be the first here to add flashing lights to their roll bar ?
Christmas is coming,so you all should add flashing lights to your roll bars [;)]
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Originally posted by cobham cobra
It’s a good answer to a question nobody was asking, or is that just me ?
I always asked myself, if I was satisfied with my old fashioned filler cap ... I think you should be a little more worried about your car!
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You all must be getting old....
Which begs the real question: Who is going to buy your (our) Aces and Acecas a few years down? Every young man appreciates a Cobra, but what about the age of the average buyer that has been driving the prices of our cars up? Are they a species about to be extinct?
I still believe this is a cool car. In a modern way the same brawn as the 427 of the 60-ies. I bet if you ask 100 young men in their 20-30's, the vast majority would think it's cool. Top-Gear would refer to them as "footballers" I'm sure, but hey: they have the money to buy...
Ya'll are getting old folks!
Gus
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If old age is having a liking for cars with simple elegant lines, no computers or other wonderful driver 'aids' and you can drive the little *** by the seat of your pants, then I hereby embrace old age (he cried as he dropped off his perch....)
Each to his own - ahh, the trials and tribulations of having Good Taste...but if the market for old Aces etc is on the verge of terminal decline, why are prices going through the roof?
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Originally posted by Gus Meyjes... Who is going to buy your (our) Aces and Acecas a few years down? Every young man appreciates a Cobra, but what about the age of the average buyer that has been driving the prices of our cars up? Are they a species about to be extinct?...Gus
At $475,000 (£300,000) You can still get an original Cobra(just!) or an Ace AND an Aceca! Whilst it`s possible that the bottom could fall out of the Classic car market (again)and the value of your Ace/Aceca/Cobra might drop, the resale of one of these can only go down, until it becomes a classic(?!) & starts to go back up again!
I hope the wireless electronics aren`t windows-based.
Imagine these coming up on your dashboard:
"Are you sure you want to carry out an emergency stop?"
"You require administrator privileges to exceed 40mph"
"YOU HAVE BEEN HAXXORED, WE NOW HAVE CONTROL!!! LOLZ"
Blue screen of death at 100mph? No ta!
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It seems that the market for classic cars has changed dramatically, if the Barret Jackson auctions is any indication.
At one time the big money was being paid for fully restored Antique cars from the early 1900's thru 1930's. Now those cars (other than the odd exception) seem to have fallen out of favor for the sixties muscle cars, which are getting very high bids.
Each generation has it's favored cars, and it depends which generation is willing to spend the money to buy their dream car, that controls the market prices.
Imagine what the kids born in the 90's or 00's might think of as their cars of choice when they have the purchasing power, when they reach middle age. I doubt they will have little in cars from the sixties era. Probably want a Honda Civic.[:D]
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When the petrol (gas) runs out it'll all get kinda academic.... ;-) Metal sculptures anyone?
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Originally posted by TLegate
When the petrol (gas) runs out it'll all get kinda academic.... ;-) Metal sculptures anyone?
No problem, I will plant potatoes and apples in my garden and run my cars on alcohol: http://running_on_alcohol.tripod.com/. Maybe I´ll find another purpose for the alcohol in the meantime ...[;)]
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Every time I see this and the brand "AC" in the same picture, I throw up in my mouth a little......
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Amazing what a little jab can do to jump start some chatter!
I too belong to the group that likes the seat of the pants driving with no driver aids.. I'm just wondering about the future of our cars when the driver needs aids outside of the car. I'm thinking walkers, canes and in case the driver owns a 427 Cobra, maybe some "depends" also!
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Originally posted by Chafford
The car goes on sale in 2011. AC is back! (according to the website)
http://www.iconicmotors.com/
Here's the Press Release:
'Muscle cars got their start in the 1960s, which many car fans still consider the high point of U.S. automotive prowess. They reached the peak of power, performance, and fascination around 1970, after which restrictions related to pollution and insurance-and steeply rising fuel prices-slowly started killing them off. However, their styling and brute horsepower kept the notable stalwarts of that period alive with enthusiasts everywhere. Fast forward to 2010, ICONIC Motors, one of the automobile industry's premier luxury and high performance vehicle makers is answering the call for enthusiasts. For those who crave unparalleled power and innovative performance, ICONIC Motors answers with 2011 ICONIC AC Roadster™. A modern-era muscle car which pays tribute to its historic brethren via its appearance while showcasing the technological advancements of today underneath its skin.
The 2011 ICONIC AC Roadster is designed from the ground up to be one of the world's most completely refined and advanced super cars. Virtually no other vehicle on the planet has undergone the same kind of engineering development and attention to detail as the ICONIC AC Roadster. ICONIC Motors stayed true to its mantra of Uncompromised Excellence™ and focused its efforts on delivering a one-of-a-kind timeless automotive masterpiece that will live on for the ages. The 2011 ICONIC AC Roadster is the first of many uniquely designed modern-era muscle cars that blend the legendary design cues of the past with the technology of the future.
"The ICONIC AC Roadster is more than just a car, it's among the world's most refined and beautifully designed super cars. It's the lightest, strongest, most well engineered, high performance roadster of our time. The engine, drive train, support electronics and overall chassis make this one of the most complete vehicle packages on the market today and is made right here in the USA," said Claudio Ballard, chairman and founder, ICONIC Motors.
What sets ICONIC Motors apart from any other car company in the world is its design, advanced material sciences and testing process. Almost every individual CAD designed part is an exclusive ICONIC Motors creation and allows for ICONIC to test each element of the car before assembly to ensure each works seamlessly with optimized strength and weight. This innovative process allows for ICONIC Motors to capture the look and style of timeless classic roadsters from the 1950's and '60's, while infusing all of the modern technology and engineering available today, this super car is truly the first of its kind.
The partnership between ICONIC and AC Cars® represents the modern synthesis of the rich history and heritage of the AC brand which spans over 100 years. Having been founded in the UK, AC possesses a dash of Italian heritage dating from the late '50's thru '60's, and has come to represent the shape and form of collectable automobiles for many generations. The ICONIC AC Roadster pays homage to the historic AC Cobras of the 1960's, in a modern and singularly refined way. Since its inception, the ICONIC Motors brand strives for automotive excellence by building one of the worlds most complete and technologically advanced roadsters.
AC Cars' goal was to find a world-class partner whose uncompromising commitment to quality and innovation would be worthy of the AC brand, heritage, and partnership. That goal became reality with ICONIC Motors, which was chosen to help re-launch the AC brand in the United States, sporting the "ICONIC AC Roadster" nameplate.'
ACtion ... AC Cars, Geneva Motor Show 2011
Extract word 4 word from ACtion magazine ( April 2011)pages 26/27
The banner hanging from the ceiling read..
"AC CARS BY GULLWING" and the Show guide states Gullwing GmBH and not AC Cars" .. .. Enough said. ..[:(]..[:(]
The article then refers to :-
The new Mk1V has between 60/70 changes from the car displayed at last years Geneva Motor Show.
Further on in the same article after reference to use of GM components the last paragraph reads...
They have a relationship with Iconic in the States but have no plans to sell the MkV1 there.
Is it me ??.. .. Confused [?] .. The Double page feature refers to the Ironic OOPppss Sorry The Iconic as a AC... .. then Not a AC,
As a Mk1V and as a MkV1.. .. [:o)]..[:o)]..[:o)]
Now wonder there's confusion amongst the ranks..[B)]
Can someone elaberate ?? Nik ? or Trev ?? or should we simply contact CONFUSE dot com.
Keith
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I assumed 'MkIV' was a mis-print (if it's not then I'm more than just confused!! :-)
I was greatly amused to read the phrase "Enough said" which kinda said enough......
Either way, I doubt that confused.com are any less confused that the rest of us mere (worthless) mortals so we'll just sit back and not pass comment or express an opinion. Such things are frowned upon in these austere times.
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Originally posted by AC Ace Bristol
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Originally posted by Chafford
The car goes on sale in 2011. AC is back! (according to the website)
http://www.iconicmotors.com/
AC Cars' goal was to find a world-class partner whose uncompromising commitment to quality and innovation would be worthy of the AC brand, heritage, and partnership.
ACtion ... AC Cars, Geneva Motor Show 2011
"AC Cars" (sic) goal was to find a partner with some cash!
I will now begin serving my bansihment................
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The latest edition of Octane has a small article on Danny Pro an artist and guest of AFAS at the Amelia Island Concours. If you click the link and look at the Cobra inspired sculpture there are a series of photos depicting the creation. Not sure if it’s iconic, ironic or just a nice thing to put on your desk.
http://misjif.com/commissions/
Well, you didn’t think I wasn’t going to mention the word desk did you ?