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AC Owners Club Forum => Recent ACs => Topic started by: Chafford on March 10, 2012, 19:54:41
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AC MkVI at the Geneva Motorshow, for some reason without AC badges. No UK price quoted.
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And another photo of the AC stand at Geneva with the MkVI in the foreground:
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This video of the Mk VI is on You Tube. Rather a lot of wind noise but the Corvette LS3 V8 sounds good and revs well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDvvZAesRoI
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And further Mk VI photos:
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I'm afraid it still looks like a very well trimmed Dax to me - though at least the exposed boot (trunk) hinges have now gone. The droopy rear end, where the mould appears to have sagged looks, particularly odd. An side effect of this is that the rear bumper looks far too low to the ground and I would be amazed if it meets EU bumper height regulations.
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So we can safely assume you won't be swapping your Superblower for a Mk VI. [;)][;)]
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You got it in one! If it were ever "totalled" I might be tempted to put the insurance money into a Kirkham though? Trouble is that if it were as the result of a crash I doubt if I would be alive to make such decisions[B)]
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Could we all form an orderly queue on the left for those who would like to steal Mr P d R-H`s pride & joy, as we`d hate for him to have to hurt hisself!!! [;)]
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Originally posted by SB7019
You got it in one! If it were ever "totalled" I might be tempted to put the insurance money into a Kirkham though? Trouble is that if it were as the result of a crash I doubt if I would be alive to make such decisions[B)]
That would be 'going over to the dark side' or should that be 'the polished side' [:)]
(http://www.the289register.com/gallery/2012lakestour/kirkham427paulselinablore.jpg)
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Nik.
Your concern for my wellbeing is touching!
Mark.
It would have to have some paint on it as I couldn't face all that polishing. The solution of having a satin aluminium body with polished stripes could be an alternative. If you are going to the X12 there should be one with this finish on display there.
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Peter
I'll look out for it. AC had a polished aluminium car at Geneva in March.
I'm not a fan of bare aluminium but this looks good:
http://www.kirkhammotorsports.com/427_sc/gallery/baregal09.jpg
Here's a video of the AC Automotive factory in Germany:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB46K33gmgE&feature=player_embedded
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Well, we will see how this "test-fart" is going to work out...
Gus
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Where did the last 20 seconds go?
The test car was still of the old design, with external boot hinges.
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quote:
Originally posted by nikbj68
Where did the last 20 seconds go?
The test car was still of the old design, with external boot hinges.
From 201o I believe.
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News from Brookland (I guess from October 14): http://www.acheritage.co.uk/acmkv1.html
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quote:
Originally posted by Spantik
News from Brookland (I guess from October 14): http://www.acheritage.co.uk/acmkv1.html
These pictures are from 2009 when the original prototype was shown at Brooklands.
Any news on your car?
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Well, heard nothing so far. Rather surprising as the first delivery for Switzerland was planned last week...
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First delivery planned into Switzerland eh?? well, that will be interesting after i've just helped one of my clients get the only CRS Cobra into the Country and pass all the conformity and legality tests. At least the CRS has a 49State Legal USA engine in it and it was still with the emissions testing station about three months.
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We will ALL keep our fingers crossed for you, Manu! I hope you have a BIG set of snowchains ready!
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Yep, ordered a pair for the front wheels ;-)
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You really are a thrillseeker!!!
[8D]
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So you pin the front axle in ice and the donuts are simply circular, perfectly circular!
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Just wonder if anyone else has ordered a Mk VI or a MK II from AC Automotive dealers.
Actually, I read again through The Telegraph of May 28, 2012 as well as Autocar news from June 29, 2012, and got caught by Sir Jeremy Mackenzie's last statement: "The problem for AC in recent years has been an inability to meet the demands of dealers, and any company that can’t meet the expectations of its clients is doomed to failure,...” “...Our new manufacturing ability will ensure that things can be different this time.” Seems that things are moving ahead, but at what speed?
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Wer alles hat denn nun eine MkVI bestellt ? Gibt es welche ?
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Dear Peter, I did order one back in April 2011. Did you?
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European homologation for the first serie produced Mk VI is completed, as planned, in April 2013. I will know more end of the month. Things are getting very serious.
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quote:
Originally posted by Spantik
European homologation for the first serie produced Mk VI is completed, as planned, in April 2013. I will know more end of the month. Things are getting very serious.
Sounds like good news!
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Well, as promised some (good) news.
I saw my car in the manufacture in Heyda, and it is about to be finished. Upholstery and paintjob still ahead for the team. Delivery expected by mid of June.
Actually, the visit of the manufacture was a great experience and I was very positively impressed by the setup and the atmosphere: I felt the passion and dedication towards the cars and work very well done. The German workmanship, indeed, reflected in the AC MkVI.
The complete value chain runs in the facility, therefore improving the cars at each step is a continuous and on-site process.
Series production started last year and a few cars left already Heyda for their happy owners and one is about to leave the factory, a few with work in progress at different stages and a couple of chassis at the welding shop. The production comes up to speed and I enjoyed seeing all manufacturing stages of the AC MkVI, from raw materials up to a fully finished AC MkVI.
It has been a long journey from the first models in 2009 to the first series model, but this was worth the waiting. The cars are awesome, breathing the Cobra heritage of an aggressive race car of the 60's with today's technology.
I found in Heyda the attitude and spirit of a small and exclusive car manufacturer as I imagined it.
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Originally posted by Spantik
Well, as promised some (good) news.
I saw my car in the manufacture in Heyda, and it is about to be finished. Upholstery and paintjob still ahead for the team. Delivery expected by mid of June.
Actually, the visit of the manufacture was a great experience and I was very positively impressed by the setup and the atmosphere: I felt the passion and dedication towards the cars and work very well done. The German workmanship, indeed, reflected in the AC MkVI.
The complete value chain runs in the facility, therefore improving the cars at each step is a continuous and on-site process.
Series production started last year and a few cars left already Heyda for their happy owners and one is about to leave the factory, a few with work in progress at different stages and a couple of chassis at the welding shop. The production comes up to speed and I enjoyed seeing all manufacturing stages of the AC MkVI, from raw materials up to a fully finished AC MkVI.
It has been a long journey from the first models in 2009 to the first series model, but this was worth the waiting. The cars are awesome, breathing the Cobra heritage of an aggressive race car of the 60's with today's technology.
I found in Heyda the attitude and spirit of a small and exclusive car manufacturer as I imagined it.
Certainly very good news. Please post some photos on the site as soon as you have them/
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Actually, I promised not to disclose any picture yet. Anyway, I anticipate to write an article in ACtion as soon as the car is in my possession, so that I'll illustrate with some pics.
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here is one advertised in France
it features cantilever type front suspension
http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/cobra-andere-mkvi-gt-neuve-weyersheim/177517588.html?lang=de&pageNumber=6&__lp=7&scopeId=C&sortOption.sortBy=price.consumerGrossEuro&makeModelVariant1.makeId=6200&makeModelVariant1.searchInFreetext=false&makeModelVariant2.searchInFreetext=false&makeModelVariant3.searchInFreetext=false&negativeFeatures=EXPORT
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and another one
http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/cobra-andere-mkvi-gt-neuve-weyersheim/177818839.html?lang=de&pageNumber=6&__lp=7&scopeId=C&sortOption.sortBy=price.consumerGrossEuro&makeModelVariant1.makeId=6200&makeModelVariant1.searchInFreetext=false&makeModelVariant2.searchInFreetext=false&makeModelVariant3.searchInFreetext=false&negativeFeatures=EXPORT
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These are the first cars out of the series production. Might be CO02 (red w. white stripes) and CO03 (black matt). My car is numbered CO06.
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Another one:
http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/cobra-andere-mkvi-gt-neuve-weyersheim/179063705.html?lang=de&pageNumber=1&__lp=8&scopeId=C&sortOption.sortBy=creationTime&sortOption.sortOrder=DESCENDING&makeModelVariant1.makeId=6200&makeModelVariant1.searchInFreetext=false&makeModelVariant2.searchInFreetext=false&makeModelVariant3.searchInFreetext=false&negativeFeatures=EXPORT
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I saw this one during my visit in Heyda, it was supposed to become a car for rental. This car has an automatic gear. If my memory is good, it is C005.
I might have already forgotten, but is there a specific registry for the Mk VI? Jürgen Mohr stated that all cars are into the AC registry.
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After having read the ad, actually it advertise to take orders (delivery in 9 months). Actually the French distributor got them all until now...
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Originally posted by Spantik
.......I might have already forgotten, but is there a specific registry for the Mk VI? .....
Emmanuel,
There will be a register and subsections for "Recent ACs".
An appropriate announcement will be made soon through ACtion and the website.
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Thanks Constant
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AC Factory in Heyda:
http://instagram.com/p/Z2qo4psNjG/#
And hard-top prototype:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/431784_204514366362573_1255797481_n.jpg
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Funny to read that on Instagram, there is a AC Automotive Official folder. Will try to look what's in.
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Well, the French distributor is on Instagram, very active actually. He definitively got all first production cars.
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The manufacture has been indirectly impacted by the flood of the Elbe. Actually, employees could no longer go to work for a while as the bridges were closed. Mother Nature decided to stall production for a moment.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SJgBwgQpIrM
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Thanks Mark for sharing.
According to Mr. Mohr, 2 cars were tested at the Michelin centre to finalize the drive train tuning after KW set up the suspensions. So far I remember, the black car with bordeaux interior is now in France for sales.
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Have they delivered your car yet, Emmanuel?
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It is getting ridiculous. Actually one prototype of early 2011 could be finally delived in Switzerland, but still no due date for my car. Slowly but surely, I start sharing Trevor's mindset on that topic...
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The French distributor got another AC Mk VI:
http://instagram.com/p/cjQWnNMNug/
I wonder if I ever will get mine, I did not order over Formula Lease :-(
2 cars are still for sales on their websites:
http://www.formula-automobiles.com/occasion,ac.html
They also have some comments in French about the car test in France:
http://www.ac-automotive.com/fr/component/content/article/31.html
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Originally posted by Spantik
The French distributor got another AC Mk VI:
http://instagram.com/p/cjQWnNMNug/
I wonder if I ever will get mine, I did not order over Formula Lease :-(
2 cars are still for sales on their websites:
http://www.formula-automobiles.com/occasion,ac.html
They also have some comments in French about the car test in France:
http://www.ac-automotive.com/fr/component/content/article/31.html
Haven't they given you a firm delivery date yet!
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Just got a notice yesterday they are mid in producing the car. So the answer is no, I did not receive any firm delivery date yet.
I am quite puzzled that a distributor gets cars for display in showroom but not early private customers who have firm orders.
I am getting used to it; I ordered a Gibson guitar and this is the same procedure, delivery date get postponed when it is supposed to be delivered. Custom made is not for people in a hurry!
Business is business and this is not my business! In French we say: "les voies du Seigneur sont impénétrables" and in Italian... I prefer not to say it.
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Originally posted by Spantik
Just got a notice yesterday they are mid in producing the car. So the answer is no, I did not receive any firm delivery date yet.
I am quite puzzled that a distributor gets cars for display in showroom but not early private customers who have firm orders.
I am getting used to it; I ordered a Gibson guitar and this is the same procedure, delivery date get postponed when it is supposed to be delivered. Custom made is not for people in a hurry!
Business is business and this is not my business! In French we say: "les voies du Seigneur sont impénétrables" and in Italian... I prefer not to say it.
Any further progress?
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I asked for my definitive chassis-nb as well as engine-nb, as the ones I have in my order confirmations have been delivered to the french distributor.
No answer so far. Actually I have been promised that I will drive the car still this year. I already ordered winter tyres and chains.
No progress so far, hope that the manufacturer did some.
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You should see a barrister if gave a deposit and were given definate chassis and engine numbers and then had the vehicle from underneath you!
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Hi James, thanks for the fair advise. Actually I learned to be patient with time, probably being too long in mountains and facing adverse weathers and conditions so often, waiting for the window of opportunity for a clean summit day.
I might have grown fatalist :-( Things shall come when they shall come.
I will anyway drop a reminder to the manufacturer, better than nothing.
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Ah Yoda!
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Now delivery confirmed, the latest in November. This year. So I was not soooooooo wrong with Winter chains ;-) A good news this week
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quote:
Originally posted by Spantik
Now delivery confirmed, the latest in November. This year. So I was not soooooooo wrong with Winter chains ;-) A good news this week
YAY ...just in time for Christmas!!
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Cobras make great winter vehicles.
(http://www.superformance.org/ownersgallery_EXTREME/img35.jpg)
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quote:
Originally posted by Spantik
Now delivery confirmed, the latest in November. This year. So I was not soooooooo wrong with Winter chains ;-) A good news this week
One can only hope! [;)]
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hope dies last...
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Great pics Brian, I gues I shall try too. Actually, the car shall be here mid of November, but still with German license plates. Homologation will be the next hurdle for the manufacturer. Anyway, I have an order with Swiss homologation included, so delivery completed only upon having my Swiss license plates on the car, probably next year in April (I am allowed to have the car 6 months with foreign license plates).
It is more than an adventure or a journey. It is an expedition!
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Hi Spantik... The MKVI will be reviewed on the french Broadcast "Direct Auto", tomorrow at 18:30 (D8 channel) [;)] ! If you do not have any access to french tv, it can be seen on D8 replay website ....
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Thanks Olivier, I will check the website, D8 is not a free channel here :-(
Direct Auto speaks already of the AC Mk VII ;-)
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You can find the broadcast here : http://www.d8.tv/d8-sport/pid5224-d8-direct-auto.html?vid=951854
The MKVI starts around 1:03:00...
And if you read French, another test here : http://www.leblogauto.com/2013/10/essai-ac-cobra-mk-vi-gt-drogue-dure.html
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Thanks for the links. D8 is not allowed in Switzerland :-( but the reportage en français ize véri goude.
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Ahahah ! I'll try to find someone to catch the video and put it on a website...
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Actually, AC Automotive put the D8 broadcast on their FB site. They mention that the steering shall be improved for future models.
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Originally posted by Spantik
Now delivery confirmed, the latest in November. This year. So I was not soooooooo wrong with Winter chains ;-) A good news this week
November is here!
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I know, thanks for the reminder. Guess what?
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Originally posted by Spantik
I know, thanks for the reminder. Guess what?
Manana, as always!!
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A silver metallic Mk VI with burgundy red interior and under car exhaust was spotted yesterday at the motorshow in Luxembourg.
Displayed on a stand of car shine and leather trimmers, it was reported to be on loan from the Mommenheim dealer.
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Yes, this car has automatic gear, very seldom for such an engine and gear ratio (the kick down send you into the stars). I could see it in Heyda at the end of production, almost ready for shipment, very nice colours.
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and by the way, mine will then probably delivered next year in February or March, a very long mañana... Actually, homologation for CO2 starts now with normal exhausts.
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Wishing no illtimiming, but exactly what year?
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Dear James, I have the same question ;-)
Presumably 2014 (next year, yes)
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And an AC Mk VI model 2014 s already in Switzerland since December 2013. Interesting, but I prefer not to comment. It is not mine...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJiiAJTGa_4
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Spantik,
Did your car arrive?
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Not funny :-(
I am kidding, not yet, but it has been promised to me that I will receive the AC MkVI before the saison starts. I just missed the year in the communication.
To be honest and with all respect to my enthusiasm towards AC brand, I am loosing my patience and my lust to complete this project, so I set to myself a deadline by June 2014. After that I will most probably abort the exercise and keep dreaming. The delivery deadline is soooooo overdue, that I am pretty confident that I will step down from the sales agreement without any loss.
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Seems to be a common thread the new AC Cars (Eu) not delivering
COB2700 was already completed and at ACH, it took 5mths just to get it out of the UK
Hope Heyda provides good support for the homologation process, it will be essential to getting the car to you asap. Also may want to look at what longer term support they will provide.... experience speaking here
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I am sad to hear that your car is taking so long to reach you. At the AC Owners Club, we have precious little knowledge of the Mk VIs. However... all the many variants of Cobra over the last 50 years have been mechanically simple enough to tune and repair without any real dramas. All parts can be sourced or fabricated with relative ease, and I can't see why the Mk VI should be any different. It is a shame that legislation and bureaucracy act as such a handicap, but that is the modern world. Good luck, and we will all keep up with your progress. Andy.
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Thanks Andy, actually, I promised to place an article describing the MkVI in the ACtion as soon as the car will reach my garage. I discussed this already with Juergen Mohr and he approved that manuscript and pictures. It will give a good idea of how the car is built what are the components, etc.. Indeed, I can confirm, that the car is no rocket science, just taking advantage of modern automotive industry technology, but all components are standard available items, and maintenance can be done at most GM centres, if required.
Basically, the support is supplied by the importer (he as green as I am, because of the massive delay), a 2 year warranty with two complete maintenance plans included for each year.
I wonder how it will work in New Zealand, as so far no importer are hired yet there. But again, parts are standard componentry and many workshop shall be able to do the work.
So let's hope for the best, plan for the worst and enjoy life ;-)
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It does not really work in NZ.
The car car came with a limited warranty of sorts, but as there is no agent or appointed representative the onus falls on the purchaser, retrospectively something I should have given more consideration to prior to purchase.
While as you stated the majority of parts are standard componentry, one must first at least have some clue as to what and where the parts have come from, something severely lacking, but in the process of being sorted. An example would be the EFI system on 2700, although the sticker says it is from Professional Products it does not give any further details or clues, there is also the small issue of the software and what has been programmed into the controller.
While most workshops could carry out any work, I prefer to carry it out myself as:
1) the pleasure derived is directly proportionally to the hours spent (and the contents of the beer fridge)
2) it gives one piece of mind to know a task has been carried out correctly
3) being ex-RNZAF my standards are probably somewhat higher than the average mechanic and by doing the work myself, I know that those standards are being maintained
4) there is less risk of getting the car damaged, as most workshops and mechanics these days have little respect for ones property, unless you go to a reputable workshop, which in my part of the woods would be several hundred kilometers away
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Last news: body back from body paint, looks awesome.
Next steps: upholstery and eventually delivery scheduled in March... 2014 !
Homologation: still a question mark, but anyway, the sales contract include the Swiss homologation, so no worry, be happy.
Patience pays, but costs too.
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scroll down the page for the latest pictures:
http://www.manuandfuci.ch/projects.html
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Looking good! When's the car being delivered?
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supposed to be delivered end of March. I precise supposed. Pictures by courtesy of Jürgen Mohr
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quote:
Originally posted by Spantik
supposed to be delivered end of March. I precise supposed. Pictures by courtesy of Jürgen Mohr
We're almost there!
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Well, who is we ;-)
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Those living vicariously through you
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Can't wait - any day now - space cleared in the garage :)
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Well, yes, space cleared, ready for reception, but the object is still missing...
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Update from Heyda (pictures by courtesy of Jürgen Mohr): http://www.manuandfuci.ch/projects.html#Heyda
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Looks like it is getting there and is a well put together car, hopefully to be parked in its cleared space in the not too distant future
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German perfection (the reason for delays, I guess ;-)
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Back from the "saddler", interior set, some accessories missing (gauges made in UK which are still not delivered). Apparently the body paint is awesome. Let's see if AC Automotive meet the May 15 deadline... Pictures follow.
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End of March = May 15. Sounds about right :)
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Originally posted by TLegate
End of March = May 15. Sounds about right :)
Why Mr. Legate, that sounded just a bit snarky!!!
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Yes, the new Aztec calendar probably...
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Snarky?? Moi? I've never snarked. Just sayin' is all......
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Originally posted by TLegate
Snarky?? Moi? I've never snarked. Just sayin' is all......
Many times Borat has seen you snark.
Transmission complete!
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Dat crazy Borat. What he know of?
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Originally posted by Spantik
Back from the "saddler", interior set, some accessories missing (gauges made in UK which are still not delivered). Apparently the body paint is awesome. Let's see if AC Automotive meet the May 15 deadline... Pictures follow.
Did they [?]
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Well, no, another issue with the delivery of the gauges from UK. Next deadline May 30. The positive part ks that the deadlines are now a couple of weeks apart and no longer months ;-)
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Made by Cearbont Enterprise / Speedy Cables ?
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here in the colonies your delivery date; after all the rescheduling; would be classified on the 3 biggest lie scale..1. You can keep your doctor, 2. I'll still love you in the morning and3. I always forget this one
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3. The cheque is in the post!
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Yes, thanks nikbj68
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Well, yes, I guess that a fourth one shall be institutionalized: 4. mañana.mañana !
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Hey Rob, any news from your side? How's progress?
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SLOW... Bloody Slowwww.
Back to the Future.....
Should have ordered a De Lorean..[B)]
Keith ..[;)]
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happily, the AC were substantially faster on race tracks ;-)
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So for the curious ones, under:
http://www.manuandfuci.ch/projects.html#Heyda
I added three new pictures by courtesy of AC Automotive in Heyda, as it is a slideshow, be patient, they shall come at the end.
So this is what I ordered, I can confirm. The steering wheel is disassembled, but I hope it is already available (I presume, as the tyres have some dirt), just the chrome stoneguards are missing so far, a detail (of importance in our countryside).
As said, I entered the last lap now, and I have to admit that my "passion" has dimmed quite a few (and patience is on the reserve). I am probably getting mature. I had quite a lot of fun sharing my journey (and do not worry, you still will read me, I am not finished) with the enthusiasts, the less enthusiasts and a couple of sceptics. Here I could sense a significant bunch of sense of humour. That helped.
Anyway, the car looks awesome (probably not so awesome for the purists, I am Swiss and used to some extent to compromises) but this is not a Photoshop hoax or a 3D-Pixar-rendering.
Mañana.mañana !
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Hello
I am rather late to the AC party but my aim is to try and get my hands on a car with a touch of "driveable" AC authenticity so struggling with the philosophical question of whether to aim for something original(ish) that I can "drive like I stole it" (phrase shamelessly hijacked from another thread), an ACheritaqe continuation build or throw caution to the wind and embrace the brave new world of the MK VI.
So in terms of the last option I am very curious as to how your MK VI project is getting on.
I am too late to share your pain but I'd love to be able to piggy back off your success!
Colin
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Howi is your level of tolerance.
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Originally posted by jbottini
Howi is your level of tolerance.
Now you mention it I do sound more and more like Victor Meldrew each day.
I suppose the upside of a lengthy production cycle is that its easier to prevaricate over my wife's refurbishment plans when there isn't a new AC parked out front.
Colin
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Well, well, well, for me the journey started 4 years ago in 2010 when I had the privilege to drive one of the first prototypes of the Mk VI (http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/first-drives/ac-mkvi) and ordered an AC Mk VI in April 2011. If you cruise through this thread you can then follow up what happened or rather what not happened since.
So again as James wisely asked: what is your level of tolerance?
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Maybe they mature the thing like a fine wine. On the other hand......
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I would buy a CRS MkIv and you can then also do the wifes refurbishment plans,and buy some fine wine.
Graham
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Perhaps cheese rather than wine is a good analogy - reading through the full thread does seem vaguely reminiscent of a certain Monty Python sketch.
I'm not the most perceptive type but I think even I can pick up on the underlying message that May delivery didn't happen. I hope it does soon as the car looks very nice indeed.
A MKIV may well be the best way for a newbie to enter the world of AC so sound advice. Thank you.
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Very sound advice! Buy two and I'll give a home to the spare (if you don't ask, you don't get)
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A Mk IV is for sale this Saturday at the Grand Dolder in Zürich:
http://www.oldtimergalerie.ch/d/auktion/Juni2014.htm
http://www.oldtimergalerie.ch/images/auction/accobramkiv.htm
And a Mercedes 300 SL, very rare in that configuration
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Also there is a Mk IV for sale at the Bonhams Auction at the Goodwood Festival of Speed on June 27th. Lot 382, 1989 Met Blue with white stripes and hood scoop. Looks nice, est 65-75k pounds. Also a Thames Ditton Cobra (check with Robin Stainer first) and a LHD AC-engined Ace.
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Useful info on cars available - thank you
Colin
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Originally posted by shep
Also there is a Mk IV for sale at the Bonhams Auction at the Goodwood Festival of Speed on June 27th. Lot 382, 1989 Met Blue with white stripes and hood scoop. Looks nice, est 65-75k pounds. Also a Thames Ditton Cobra (check with Robin Stainer first) and a LHD AC-engined Ace.
A nice looking 289 Cobra check with RS for what reason ?
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Originally posted by TLegate
Maybe they mature the thing like a fine wine. On the other hand......
Has your Mk VI been delivered yet?
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Originally posted by Chafford
quote:
Originally posted by TLegate
Maybe they mature the thing like a fine wine. On the other hand......
Has your Mk VI been delivered yet?
Negotiations underway.
Hoping to report progress soon.
Colin
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Emmanuel,
Has your MkVI been delivered yet (such previous rescheduling being most unusual in German manufacturing circles)?
RS
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I've got a photo of tumbleweed somewhere....
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The factory is sourcing unobaintium parchment for the title papers
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Originally posted by jbottini
The factory is sourcing unobaintium parchment for the title papers
The real problem is their printer won't print on unobtanium.....they are looking for some monks with quills.
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Ah ha...searching Brother L.?
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My quill is at your command (for the proper fee - Bless You)
I also have a lot of unobtanium and I ain't sellin'
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T,
No, I fathom this Bro A.L. Thanks though,
The colonists
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Yo bro
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Well, well, well, guess what? The homologation is still on going and I presume that this will become the major obstacle (I speak about the European one), so still waiting.
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Could be a race on here, MKII Anniversary or MKVI....albeit under different circumstances, both of us still do not have a road legal car from the new AC Cars company after many, many months/years of frustration; a scale electric and a few beers would be damn sight cheaper and more fun than we're having at the mo !!
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Originally posted by Spantik
Well, well, well, guess what? The homologation is still on going and I presume that this will become the major obstacle (I speak about the European one), so still waiting.
Isn't there an individual vehicle approval process for low volume manufacturers in Switzerland?
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Certainly is in NZ....
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Hey Mark, this is the case, one car shall be homologated in Switzerland and the rest follows, but you need a "first seed" which is still missing. Hope that mine will serve future potential interested people in Switzerland. Sera que sera.
But first things first, the European homologation shall be obtained first, that eases up the process... Well, I said eases, not speeds !
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The Mark VI was announced as being ‘on sale in Continental Europe at a launch price of €109,000 plus taxes’ in March 2012, with Jeremy Mackenzie observing that “The problem for AC in recent years has been an inability to meet the demands of dealers, and any company that can’t meet the expectations of its clients is doomed to failure. Our new manufacturing ability will ensure that things can be different this time.”
No homologation for a car launched into the European market three years ago is clearly different, but is it the sort of difference that Mackenzie had in mind?
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Poor old Emmanuel informs me that he still hasn't got his MkVI!
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...And that he's walking away if he doesn't get it by the end of this year. Can you blame him?
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Another victim of A.L........
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Originally posted by Chafford
Poor old Emmanuel informs me that he still hasn't got his MkVI...And that he's walking away if he doesn't get it by the end of this year. Can you blame him?
But how can this be? According to AC Cars Ltd (http://"http://fazeonemedia.com/accarsltd/?page_id=16"), I quote:
"AC Cars Ltd’s mission is to provide exceptional retail and ownership support, services and personalization to the premium sports car enthusiasts in the US.
AND
"AC Cars Ltd is dedicated to the distribution of AC Cars Limited products through the development of an independent dealer network offering retail sales, service and support of all AC Cars Products... in the United States".
Aah. I see. Emmanuel & Rob are on the wrong continents. [:(][V]
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Originally posted by nikbj68
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Originally posted by Chafford
Poor old Emmanuel informs me that he still hasn't got his MkVI...And that he's walking away if he doesn't get it by the end of this year. Can you blame him?
But how can this be? According to AC Cars Ltd (http://"http://fazeonemedia.com/accarsltd/?page_id=16"), I quote:
"AC Cars Ltd’s mission is to provide exceptional retail and ownership support, services and personalization to the premium sports car enthusiasts in the US.
AND
"AC Cars Ltd is dedicated to the distribution of AC Cars Limited products through the development of an independent dealer network offering retail sales, service and support of all AC Cars Products... in the United States".
Aah. I see. Emmanuel & Rob are on the wrong continents. [:(][V]
Wrong AC website. This is the one for Emmanuel![B)]
http://www.ac-automotive.com/en/
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Well done Nick on recognising NZ as a continent, we have been trying to convince the world of this for eons :)
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Yes, the new official website since the formal foundation of AC Automotive by Jürgen Mohr and his partner Laurent Abert in 2011 from the extinct Gullwing GmbH which initiated the AC Mk VI in 2009.
https://www.kompany.com/p/de/hrb711850%20mannheim
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What happened to Gullwing GmbH?
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A couple of questions regarding the specs, what does the aluminum epoxy body mean and it it my understanding that the engine is provided by Chevrolet. The specifications say it's a V8 Compressor (supercharged?) engine of 6.2 liters producing 437 BHP and 585 NM torque.
My non-supercharged 2012 6.2 liter Corvette produces 430 BHP and 580 NM torque. This suggests only a 7 HP and 5 NM gain from the supercharger?
The current Corvette 6.2 liter non-supercharged engine produces 460 BHP and 630 NM!
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Bryan asks an interesting question. What did happen to Gullwing GmbH?
RS
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Well, well, well,... What happened to Gullwing GmbH? You'd better ask Mercedes ;-)
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Hey John, the body is a mix of fibreglass and aluminium, the aluminium being mixed to the epoxy for better longevity of the body.
The engine is a crate LS3 by Chevy (http://www.chevrolet.com/performance/crate-engines/ls3.html), not supercharged or compressor, so far I know.
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Emmanuel,
What's the 2016 news?
RS
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Hi Rob, well, no so brilliant with the ordered MkVI, the situation worsened significantly.
I just want my car, homologated and delivered in Switzerland or my money back, quite simple and straightforward. I now mandated an attorney in law in Germany.
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So essentially AC Automotive have neither the resources nor the expertise to homologate the car for the Swiss market. Has the car been built?
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The car has been built and serves for homologation, but in 5 years, one is definitively able to be profitable and not still hunting for a COC.
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Case closed, money back and no AC Mk VI.
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You probably are better off!
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Maybe time for swapping the last two letters of the project (VI -> IV)?
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Originally posted by dkp_cobra
Maybe time for swapping the last two letters of the project (VI -> IV)?
Good recommendation! The Mk IV is an excellent car!
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Couldn't agree more Constant. And you can drive it regularly!
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Interestingly this ad just appeared on Classic Driver: https://www.classicdriver.com/en/car/ac/cobra/2015/404596
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Originally posted by jrlucke
Interestingly this ad just appeared on Classic Driver: https://www.classicdriver.com/en/car/ac/cobra/2015/404596
The 1995 Lightweight offered by Albion looks definitely like AKL 1422, presenting the combination of some very distinct features.
Should be 1993 rather than 1995 though.
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The prices of replicas is getting weird in Switzerland...
http://www.autoscout24.ch/de/d/ac-cobra-cabriolet-oldtimer?allmakes=1&index=1&make=209%2c%2c&model=883%2c0%2c0&st=2&vehid=4111225&vehtyp=10&returnurl=%2fde%2fautos%2fac--cobra%3fallmakes%3d1%26make%3d209%2c%2c%26model%3d883%2c0%2c0%26st%3d2%26vehtyp%3d10%26r%3d5
and
http://www.autoscout24.ch/de/d/ac-cobra-cabriolet-oldtimer?allmakes=1&index=4&make=209%2c%2c&model=883%2c0%2c0&st=2&vehid=4177650&vehtyp=10&returnurl=%2fde%2fautos%2fac--cobra%3fallmakes%3d1%26make%3d209%2c%2c%26model%3d883%2c0%2c0%26st%3d2%26vehtyp%3d10%26r%3d5
Compared to a Mk IV lightweight:
http://www.autoscout24.ch/de/d/ac-cobra-cabriolet-occasion?allmakes=1&index=5&make=209%2c%2c&model=883%2c0%2c0&st=2&vehid=4179157&vehtyp=10&returnurl=%2fde%2fautos%2fac--cobra%3fallmakes%3d1%26make%3d209%2c%2c%26model%3d883%2c0%2c0%26st%3d2%26vehtyp%3d10%26r%3d5
Some just misunderstand genuine AC with copycats :-(
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"a horse is worth what a fool is willing to pay for it"