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AC Owners Club Forum => Mk IV, Superblower, CRS and other Continuation Cars Forum => Topic started by: AK1131 on January 22, 2013, 19:06:22

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Post by: AK1131 on January 22, 2013, 19:06:22: Is this a real Cobra or what?

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/carsforsale/ac/unspecified/1519884.htm
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Post by: nikbj68 on January 22, 2013, 20:19:15: WHAT.
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Post by: SunDude on January 22, 2013, 20:32:55: Hyperlink is dead.
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Post by: nikbj68 on January 22, 2013, 21:21:06: Yeah, funny, the link is dead, but search AC category and select "1966 AC All Aluminium" and the URL is correct! I've linked to the printable view below.

   Anywhichway, the ad is for a Cobra described as
   CSX30601 (http://"http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/ac//1519884.html?printable=1") which had it's chassis plate removed and another CSX3060 exists....
   We discussed this car HERE in 2008 (http://"http://www.acownersclub.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1091").
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Post by: SunDude on January 22, 2013, 21:52:07: Hmmm, interesting. The dealer (Hillbank USA aka Superformance USA aka Shelby Distribution USA) is a reputable seller. The car looks like it might be one of the so-called "completion Cobras" that Shelby had McClusky build for him; I'll have to check my registry tonight to see if it has any details.

   This car also looks like Lot 811 from Barrett-Jackson Las Vegas 2008: http://www.barrett-jackson.com/application/onlinesubmission/lotdetails.aspx?ln=811&aid=263

   (http://assets.hemmings.com/uimage/13518616-700-0.jpg)
   (http://assets.hemmings.com/uimage/13518618-700-0.jpg)
   (http://assets.hemmings.com/uimage/13518611-700-0.jpg)
   (http://assets.hemmings.com/uimage/13518613-700-0.jpg)
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Post by: nikbj68 on January 22, 2013, 22:08:17: quote:
Originally posted by SunDude: This car also looks like Lot 811 from Barrett-Jackson Las Vegas 2008 (http://"http://www.barrett-jackson.com/application/onlinesubmission/lotdetails.aspx?ln=811&aid=263")
I think there`s a VERY good reason for that!
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Post by: SunDude on January 23, 2013, 01:31:09: According to the Shelby registry, this car is NOT one of the McClusky completion Cobras nor is it one of the Angliss continuation Cobras. However, the body and chassis were originally produced by Angliss some time in the early 1980s.

Not sure what exactly this makes it...
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Post by: nikbj68 on January 23, 2013, 08:24:08: quote:
Originally posted by SunDude

According to the Shelby registry, this car is NOT one of the McClusky completion Cobras nor is it one of the Angliss continuation Cobras. However, the body and chassis were originally produced by Angliss some time in the early 1980s.

   Not sure what exactly this makes it...

I think that shows very clearly what this is, a very nice replica. [:p]
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Post by: SB7019 on January 23, 2013, 09:58:30: Nice car but some of the shaping of the front and rear wheel arches is a bit "off". Price looks somewhat ambitious bearing in mind what a Kirkham can be bought or built for.
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Post by: SJ351 on January 23, 2013, 22:49:29: So we have an Angliss body-chassis unit on this car (a relica) and the same on a red 427 that is an 'original' while its original AC Thames-Ditton built body chassis unit is the backbone of another 'replica' elsewhere (and this os not the only example of such). Legal title may be a factor in the eyes of the law but we all know what some of the cars in out midst really are, or at least can find a man who does. I do pity anyone trying to purchase a Cobra without the inside track
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Post by: nikbj68 on January 24, 2013, 00:02:00: Nail hit cleanly on the head there, Stephen.
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Post by: TLegate on January 24, 2013, 09:56:12: All Cobras are real - some are more realer than others (hmmm, there's a title for a book there....)
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Post by: A-Snake on January 25, 2013, 14:41:41: quote:
Originally posted by TLegate

All Cobras are real - some are more realer than others (hmmm, there's a title for a book there....)



   Really?
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Post by: TLegate on January 25, 2013, 20:01:24: Not saying the book would sell....
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Post by: REV on January 25, 2013, 23:03:55: It would keep the lawyers busy though!

:-)
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Post by: TLegate on January 26, 2013, 11:54:52: Publish and be damned, I say. However, before proceeding I'll need everyone to contribute to my legal 'fees' (rip-off). It would make the Hales-Piper fandango look like chicken feed
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Post by: cobham cobra on January 29, 2013, 14:30:11: The Hales - Piper topic is a real can of worms and has the potential to affect many areas of the classic car hobby / sport. How many “star” drivers will be willing to race great cars on a “you bend it, you fix it” basis?
   The topic is well discussed on the following links and there’s a donate button if anyone wants to help Mark Hales. I’ve met Mark, he’s a nice chap, I enjoy his writing and he’s a talented driver and doesn’t deserve this.
   http://www.trackdriver.com/mark_hales_appeal.php

   PS: I'm not looking to hi-jack this thread, so can I suggest a new tread if anyone is moved to comment.
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Post by: Chafford on April 19, 2014, 16:25:32: Still on sale at Hillbank Motor Corporation using the VIN Number CSX 3060. Very nice looking car whatever its provenance.