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428 Frua Forum / Classic cars are too small
« on: November 29, 2012, 13:40:15 »
Interesting questions !
   
   AC 428 Frua and De Tomaso Mangusta
   NOVEMBER 20, 2012 BY MIKE 7 COMMENTS
   4
   by Mike –
   This 1969 De Tomaso Mangusta is for sale on eBay with a Buy It Now Price of $$119,900.
   
   1969 De Tomaso Mangusta
   The seller, Daniel Schmitt & Co. (in St. Louis, Missouri), says it has just completed a restoration and has 36,325 miles. The photos look good and if the description is accurate this looks like a great Mangusta.
   
   1969 De Tomaso Mangusta
   
   1969 De Tomaso Mangusta
   This 1969 AC 428 Frua shown below was listed on eBay at a price of $255,000. It was listed by Hyman Ltd. (also in St. Louis). The eBay listing has ended and it is not on the Hyman web site now so maybe it sold.
   
   1969 AC 428 Frua
   
   1969 AC 428 Frua
   The seller says: “This 1969 example is in remarkable condition with just under 17,000 original miles and has never had, or needed, restoration yet today in metallic silver paint with its original black leather upholstery and interior trim looks crisp, sharp and exquisite. It has been repainted to very high standards.”
   
   1969 AC 428 Frua
   The Questions
   1) Here we have two excellent examples of European styled cars with American power (both Ford powered). Mike Clarke sent me the AC Frua eBay listing and asked why this car would be so much more expensive than a Mangusta. This AC Frua is priced at more than two times the price of this Mangusta.
   Is this justified? The Mangusta is a more beautiful car but I suspect the AC Frua is a better driver. Neither have any racing history and both were made in low numbers, although there are fewer AC Fruas around that Mangustas.
   As a talking point, the latest issue of the Hagerty Price Guide has the following values for condition 1 cars:
   1969 AC 428: $96,400
   1969 De Tomaso Mangusta: $145,000
   I do not believe that price guides are always correct but you can see why this is confusing.
   Let us know in the comments what you think about Mangusta values versus AC 428 Frua values.
   2) The other question – why are two such great cars both in St. Louis?

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428 Frua Forum / Badges on 428s
« on: January 22, 2012, 23:21:01 »
http://www.pietro-frua.de/1965_ac.htm

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428 Frua Forum / Badges on 428s
« on: January 22, 2012, 23:13:20 »
Tanks John & Brett for this very useful information
   Interesting to look to the pietro frua site to http://www.pietro-frua.de/1965_ac.htm_ CF6 and 17
   I got this info from Damien
   Siegfried

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428 Frua Forum / Badges on 428s
« on: January 21, 2012, 17:39:35 »
Hi Paul
   Don’t be confused about the colour it is rely green .
   But alls you now with fruit green can turn to ………..
   Siegfried
   
   
   
   
   
   

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428 Frua Forum / Badges on 428s
« on: January 20, 2012, 19:47:49 »
We removed some paint and the initial colour is a kind off green
   Till now we did end any work on the car
   Siegfried
   
   
   
   
   

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428 Frua Forum / Badges on 428s
« on: January 18, 2012, 22:58:53 »
One more
   Siegfried
   
   
   http://s1137.photobucket.com/albums/n501/sieg3/

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428 Frua Forum / Badges on 428s
« on: January 18, 2012, 22:36:11 »
Hi Paul
   Maybe this picture ?
   If you need more no problem  just ask .
   
   Siegfried
   
   

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3000ME Forum / engine mounts 428
« on: June 18, 2017, 11:55:05 »
Hello all ,would someone know where I can buy new engine mounts and what type is needed ?
   Since I don't trust the ones mounted on my car
   Greetings Siegfried

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428 Frua Forum / Goodwood Festival Of Speed
« on: July 11, 2016, 01:30:38 »
Dream cars of the Goodwood Festival of Speed concours
   June 24, 2016 Gavin Braithwaite-Smith 0 Comments
   Dream cars of the Goodwood Festival of Speed concoursThe Cartier Lawn has been a key part of the Festival of Speed since 1995. The Style et Luxe provides some welcome calm, away from the speed and the sound of the Goodwood Hill. We took a wander around the lawn to select our favourite concours gems.
   
   Dream cars of the Goodwood Festival of Speed concoursJensen Interceptor Vignale
   The Jensen Interceptor entered the stage in 1966 and was powered by a Chrysler-sourced V8 engine. It was more of a GT car than an outright sports car and featured such ‘luxuries’ as the world’s first dimming interior light. The car on display at Goodwood is the very first production example and is said to be in an original and unrestored condition.
   
   Dream cars of the Goodwood Festival of Speed concoursAlpine A110 SX Berlinette
   From one of the first of a breed to one of the last. This 1977 Alpine A110 SX was the very last of the 7,579 A110s to roll off the Dieppe production line. It’s finished in super-rare Normandy Green and features the rear lights from an Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV. These were an option in certain markets, with Renault 8 units fitted to domestic market cars.
   
   Dream cars of the Goodwood Festival of Speed concoursLamborghini Countach LP400
   It needs no introduction, does it? This early ‘Periscopo’ Countach is one of only 10 right-hand drive cars built, out of a total of 150 LP400s made between 1974 and 1977.
   
   Dream cars of the Goodwood Festival of Speed concoursAC 428 Frua Coupe
   This is something you don’t see everyday, not least because a mere 81 cars were produced between 1966 and 1974. It’s a multinational affair, featuring an Italian body, British chassis and all-American Ford big-block V8. Illustrious though it was, sales were hampered by an extremely high price – twice that of a Jaguar E-Type.
   

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428 Frua Forum / R.I.P 428 classic cars august 2016
« on: June 26, 2016, 17:02:27 »

   
   
   

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428 Frua Forum / New Year
« on: December 23, 2014, 17:08:03 »
I would like to wish you all a merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

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428 Frua Forum / Hersy USA
« on: October 25, 2014, 15:37:59 »
this watt my friend Frank have seen in Hersy 10-10-2014[
   URL=http://s1137.photobucket.com/user/sieg3/media/amerika10-2014089.jpg.html][/URL]
   
   
   

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428 Frua Forum / sleeping beauty
« on: October 06, 2013, 15:52:25 »
Hallo
   Finally we started the restoration of my frua
   As you can see the gearbox is a zf  the same the used by Maserati and the GT40.
   Likely its all factory fitted
   You can also find the picture from the air extractor
   Gr Siegfried
   
   
   
   
   
   

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428 Frua Forum / Interesting questions !
« on: November 29, 2012, 13:45:30 »
Posted - 29 November 2012 :  13:40:15
   Interesting questions !
   
   AC 428 Frua and De Tomaso Mangusta
   NOVEMBER 20, 2012 BY MIKE 7 COMMENTS
   4
   by Mike –
   This 1969 De Tomaso Mangusta is for sale on eBay with a Buy It Now Price of $$119,900.
   
   1969 De Tomaso Mangusta
   The seller, Daniel Schmitt & Co. (in St. Louis, Missouri), says it has just completed a restoration and has 36,325 miles. The photos look good and if the description is accurate this looks like a great Mangusta.
   
   1969 De Tomaso Mangusta
   
   1969 De Tomaso Mangusta
   This 1969 AC 428 Frua shown below was listed on eBay at a price of $255,000. It was listed by Hyman Ltd. (also in St. Louis). The eBay listing has ended and it is not on the Hyman web site now so maybe it sold.
   
   1969 AC 428 Frua
   
   1969 AC 428 Frua
   The seller says: “This 1969 example is in remarkable condition with just under 17,000 original miles and has never had, or needed, restoration yet today in metallic silver paint with its original black leather upholstery and interior trim looks crisp, sharp and exquisite. It has been repainted to very high standards.”
   
   1969 AC 428 Frua
   The Questions
   1) Here we have two excellent examples of European styled cars with American power (both Ford powered). Mike Clarke sent me the AC Frua eBay listing and asked why this car would be so much more expensive than a Mangusta. This AC Frua is priced at more than two times the price of this Mangusta.
   Is this justified? The Mangusta is a more beautiful car but I suspect the AC Frua is a better driver. Neither have any racing history and both were made in low numbers, although there are fewer AC Fruas around that Mangustas.
   As a talking point, the latest issue of the Hagerty Price Guide has the following values for condition 1 cars:
   1969 AC 428: $96,400
   1969 De Tomaso Mangusta: $145,000
   I do not believe that price guides are always correct but you can see why this is confusing.
   Let us know in the comments what you think about Mangusta values versus AC 428 Frua values.
   2) The other question – why are two such great cars both in St. Louis?

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428 Frua Forum / Classic cars are too small
« on: February 11, 2012, 12:25:53 »
I found this article in the last issue of Classic Cars
   Siegfried
   
   

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