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AC Owners Club Forum => Vintage, PVT & 2 Litre Forum => Topic started by: Old Crock on December 15, 2012, 22:55:28

Title: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Old Crock on December 15, 2012, 22:55:28
I came across a great website. The Stilltime Collection is a photographic library with 'photographs from the 20th century preserved as a British historic record and resource'.
   
   I put in a search for AC under the 'car' category and there, to my surprise, some 65 photos, most in fabulous focus, and many I'd never seen before. Certainly some have come from the AC factory, as Thames Ditton is featured in some shots, and they are clearly for marketing purposes.
   
   These photos are a treasure. There are many prewar AC's in the archive and below are just a few to show the quality and rarity. The library sells copies (http://www.stilltimecollection.co.uk)
   
   1928 AC Aceca
   (http://www.stilltimecollection.co.uk/gallery/Car/Car%200592.jpg)
   I wonder who this lady is waving at?
   (http://www.stilltimecollection.co.uk/gallery/Car/Car%200333.jpg)
   A four-cylinder, probably in Thames Ditton
   (http://www.stilltimecollection.co.uk/gallery/Car/Car%200334.jpg)
   Notice the AutoCarriers signage behind..
   (http://www.stilltimecollection.co.uk/gallery/Car/Car%200057.jpg)
   A Sociable, about 1914
   (http://www.stilltimecollection.co.uk/gallery/Car/Car%200647.jpg)
   What about the rear of this one? What is that all about? Maybe for a van attachment?
   (http://www.stilltimecollection.co.uk/gallery/Car/Car%202920.jpg)
   I think this is an AC from about 1914 (but someone may correct me?)
   (http://www.stilltimecollection.co.uk/gallery/Car/Car%200597.jpg)
   
   There's also the early '20's race cars, AC's armoured vehicle for the War Office, the Montlhery-bodied car and more. For anyone interested in motoring history I recommend some browsing....
Title: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: ACOCArch on December 30, 2012, 20:30:19
quote:
Originally posted by Old Crock
   
 The Stilltime Collection is a photographic library with 'photographs from the 20th century preserved as a British historic record and resource'.

   
   This collection is a treasure trove! Many of the AC images were published in period magazines such as LightCar and Cyclecar.
   Copies of the ACs  photos have been purchased along with the rights for ACOC to publish them one-time in ACtion. The photos will appear progresively in Archive articles, in period context.
Title: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Jam2 on January 01, 2013, 05:46:31
Another great site for photos
   http://www.austinharris.co.uk/car/ac
Title: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: ACOCArch on January 02, 2013, 01:12:35
quote:
Originally posted by Jam2
   
Another great site for photos
   http://www.austinharris.co.uk/car/ac
   

   
   Some superb shots of ACs in all manner of events in the 1920s.
   
   This site, based on the LAT Archive, has been privately assembled by Austin Harris over a number of years. Sad to say, I have yet to get a response to many requests regarding the purchase of hard copies. It seems too that AH is not funded by LAT, either directly or by commission.
Title: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Jam2 on January 05, 2013, 07:09:45
Surprised to read of your lack of success in obtaining photos, I passed on your comment and Austin suggested I give you his address. - I have emailed you with Austin's email address ,
   The web site was relaunched a couple of months back,  I don't know when you tried to get photos, perhaps it coincided with his web site changes.
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Andrey1976b on September 12, 2022, 08:28:43
This is AC Sociable?
Photo 1971
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Andrey1976b on November 24, 2022, 06:43:13
1926 AC Six. Brisbane. Photo 1974
Belonged to a certain M Michaels

Who knows the serial number of the car and its fate?
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Old Crock on November 24, 2022, 12:13:43
This is Chassis Number 13335. A very interesting car historically. It was exported to Australia in 1926 for use as a demonstrator. It was supplied new with aluminium cylinder head, high compression pistons and three carburettors (but it is not however an S F Edge Special as recorded in the Vintage Register - this car being a high-performance 2/3 seater). The photo shows the owner at the time, Cameron Millar, I believe.

This AC would have been a flyer in its day, a ‘wolf in sheep’s clothing’, with a top speed in excess of 75 mph and, dependent on axle ratio, possibly more than 80 mph.

The car came back to the UK, was registered as SV 4587, and was sold by Bonhams in England December 1996 (again the model type was described incorrectly). Since then, it went to ground for many years, the DVLA showing it had not been taxed, nor recorded for historic exemption, between 2000-2018 but, there is good news in that it is now taxed for the road so hopefully we shall see this very interesting car soon.
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Andrey1976b on November 25, 2022, 03:11:37
Thank you very much!!!
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Andrey1976b on November 25, 2022, 07:06:05
Who knows the serial number of the car and its fate?
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Old Crock on November 25, 2022, 09:21:57
This special-bodied racecar is on display at the Louwman Museum in the Netherlands. It was built by an Englishman, Gordon Rossiter, who used his 21st birthday present (= money) on converting a 1924 AC six-cylinder into this racecar. In 1937 he competed in a number of hill climbs and raced at Donington Park and was clocked at 105mph. It was still racing in the 1960’s when purchased by the museum.

Vehicle not produced, as such, by the factory. The original chassis used not known, engine number F2MB3093 (sometimes recorded as simply 3093).
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Andrey1976b on November 28, 2022, 05:41:27
Thank you very much!!!
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Andrey1976b on November 28, 2022, 11:30:29
Again my stupid question  :)

Who knows the serial number of the car and its fate?
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Old Crock on November 28, 2022, 23:59:12
This is an early four-cylinder Anzani-engined AC car, sporting an open tourer body. It is one of the earliest surviving AC vintage cars and dates from 1921 (a couple of earlier Edwardian Fivet-engined cars survive which are older plus, of course, the three-wheeler Sociables etc).

The car is a 11.9hp (12/24), later cars of this design were called Empire models (with one-pane glass and imitation leather seats as standard). It is chassis number 6405 and was registered as MD 7093 in North-east London. It has sold a few times in the last thirty years and resided for a long time on display in the National Motor Museum at Beaulieu, England.

About five years ago I saw the car for sale on one of the stalls at the Beaulieu Autojumble. It was still 'alive and well' a couple of years ago in France.
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Andrey1976b on November 29, 2022, 03:08:17
Thanks a lot as always
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Andrey1976b on November 29, 2022, 10:16:08
This is an early four-cylinder Anzani-engined AC car, sporting an open tourer body. It is one of the earliest surviving AC vintage cars and dates from 1921 (a couple of earlier Edwardian Fivet-engined cars survive which are older plus, of course, the three-wheeler Sociables etc).

The car is a 11.9hp (12/24), later cars of this design were called Empire models (with one-pane glass and imitation leather seats as standard). It is chassis number 6405 and was registered as MD 7093 in North-east London. It has sold a few times in the last thirty years and resided for a long time on display in the National Motor Museum at Beaulieu, England.

About five years ago I saw the car for sale on one of the stalls at the Beaulieu Autojumble. It was still 'alive and well' a couple of years ago in France.

The register does not contain a car with the register number PE 7799 that V.A. Bruce drove. What is her chassis number?
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Old Crock on November 29, 2022, 12:26:36
This car, PE 7799, was the winning car of the 1926 Monte Carlo Rally driven by Hon Victor Bruce. It was an SFE Special, a factory model that included some tuning to the engine.
The vintage register records information on known cars and surviving cars. The chassis number of Bruce’s car is not known and its registration number was not in the register even going back more than 40 years. I fear it ‘went off to that great carpark in the sky’, not surprising considering all it went through during the 1920’s….
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Andrey1976b on November 30, 2022, 03:17:25
And who is this?
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Andrey1976b on November 30, 2022, 05:58:29
Is this chassis number unknown?  :)

Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Old Crock on November 30, 2022, 11:15:13
And who is this?

The ACOC held its National Day at Thames Ditton in 2011 to celebrate the anniversary that 100 years before, in 1911, AC moved to Thames Ditton. It was a great day – open day at Ferry works, a plaque mounted there, a concours event on the green, plus many other things going on.

The photo here, taken at Thames Ditton, shows the son and daughter of Victor Bruce with the Monte Carlo cup and a car representing his win. The car is not the original but was used as a ‘copy’ for photo purposes and promotion of the centenary (and one of the most significant events in AC’s history). The same car then was displayed at the Techno Classica in Essen, Germany – that is where the photo you show was taken. It is not PE 7799 but actually is chassis number 12071 that carries registration number TO 2266. It is an Aceca model with a body similar to the Monte car.
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Old Crock on November 30, 2022, 13:38:20
Is this chassis number unknown?  :)

One of the AC works racecars, here being driven by John Joyce on the Brooklands Test Hill in 1925.

This is the same car that averaged 100mph for an hour at Brooklands driven by Joyce, (which means, at times, it was likely to have been travelling at around 115mph). The car also contested the Junior Car Club 200-mile racing in 1922 and ’24, finishing third on both occasions. It won the Brighton Speed Trials two years in a row and held the test hill record for many years.

AC sold the car in the mid/late 1920's and it was only used for a couple more years. From 1929 to the early 1960s it was left in storage before being dug out to go back racing again in the hands of Denis Jenkinson (the same, who co-partnered Moss in the Mercedes 300SLR in the Mille Miglia).

This was another car that was displayed at the ACOC centenary event in Thames Ditton.

I’ve never seen a chassis number so assume, as one of a small batch of race-cars, it was effectively a one-off (the chassis was far from being ‘standard’ anyway being drilled everywhere for lightness).

Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Andrey1976b on December 01, 2022, 08:46:59
And who is this?

The ACOC held its National Day at Thames Ditton in 2011 to celebrate the anniversary that 100 years before, in 1911, AC moved to Thames Ditton. It was a great day – open day at Ferry works, a plaque mounted there, a concours event on the green, plus many other things going on.

The photo here, taken at Thames Ditton, shows the son and daughter of Victor Bruce with the Monte Carlo cup and a car representing his win. The car is not the original but was used as a ‘copy’ for photo purposes and promotion of the centenary (and one of the most significant events in AC’s history). The same car then was displayed at the Techno Classica in Essen, Germany – that is where the photo you show was taken. It is not PE 7799 but actually is chassis number 12071 that carries registration number TO 2266. It is an Aceca model with a body similar to the Monte car.

Super! Thank you!
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Old Crock on December 01, 2022, 12:29:17
The postings above make reference to the ACOC centenary gathering at Thames Ditton in 2011.
Here's a photo showing some of the pre-1930 vehicles at Ferry Works:


Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Andrey1976b on December 02, 2022, 06:11:39
Thank you. I did not find a car with the number 1-OAF-752 in the registry. What is this car?

I have a photo of a similar one, but it has a different number and is also not in the registry
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Old Crock on December 02, 2022, 12:42:39
Thank you. I did not find a car with the number 1-OAF-752 in the registry. What is this car?

I have a photo of a similar one, but it has a different number and is also not in the registry

This is an Anzani-engined 1921 AC 12/40 Sport, one of only two surviving cars. It is chassis number 6582 (the second car is 7350). The number plate when in the UK was HL 1183. It was sold to Belgium where the number plate system is different, I believe issued to a driver and not the car or year (?) In Belgium it has had GJD-876  (ACOC register entry incorrect) and also 1-OAF-752, so both photos above are the same car.
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Andrey1976b on December 06, 2022, 03:09:10
Thank you!
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Andrey1976b on December 06, 2022, 11:02:46
Can I ask more stupid questions?  :)

Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Old Crock on December 08, 2022, 11:35:33
The first photo is an AC four-cylinder that resided in Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe) up to the 1960’s. Another photo, same car below. Not sure what happened to it subsequently. The colour scheme of cream-and-black was quite popular and a couple of vintage cars still carry this combination. The family had a Morris and Austin dealership in Bulawayo and the father and son raced cars. They owned also a couple of Aces, an Aceca and a Greyhound,. Exporting from Zimbabwe had its own difficulties but some cars were successfully removed to South Africa. A 1930’s AC and the two Aces got away (one, MSV 512, still racing?) but no news on the vintage car. I believe some went then further, and on to Australia where the family settled. This car might just might be one of the those recorded from South Africa or Australia?

The second is an excellent period photo, taken by Bill Brunell, well-known photographer of the 1920-30’s who accompanied Victor Bruce on the Monte Carlo Rally. It shows an AC open-tourer on the Brighton and Hove Motor Club Trial, probably 1924 or 1925. The number plate identifies it being a local car, registered in West Sussex, so the lady competitor was likely a club member.
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Andrey1976b on December 09, 2022, 09:08:56
The first photo is an AC four-cylinder that resided in Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe) up to the 1960’s. Another photo, same car below. Not sure what happened to it subsequently. The colour scheme of cream-and-black was quite popular and a couple of vintage cars still carry this combination. The family had a Morris and Austin dealership in Bulawayo and the father and son raced cars. They owned also a couple of Aces, an Aceca and a Greyhound,. Exporting from Zimbabwe had its own difficulties but some cars were successfully removed to South Africa. A 1930’s AC and the two Aces got away (one, MSV 512, still racing?) but no news on the vintage car. I believe some went then further, and on to Australia where the family settled. This car might just might be one of the those recorded from South Africa or Australia?

Owned by Eric Glasby, Formula 1 driver in 1962 from Rhodesia. In your photo he is driving with his sons
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Andrey1976b on December 09, 2022, 09:11:41
The second is an excellent period photo, taken by Bill Brunell, well-known photographer of the 1920-30’s who accompanied Victor Bruce on the Monte Carlo Rally. It shows an AC open-tourer on the Brighton and Hove Motor Club Trial, probably 1924 or 1925. The number plate identifies it being a local car, registered in West Sussex, so the lady competitor was likely a club member.

12HP or 16HP?
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Andrey1976b on December 09, 2022, 09:30:00
and new photo )

Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Old Crock on December 09, 2022, 20:10:26
What a fantastic looking AC Six..........but then I would say that as I own it!
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Andrey1976b on December 13, 2022, 05:58:23
There are many photos of him on the Internet. )
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Andrey1976b on December 14, 2022, 09:26:57
Another mystery

Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Old Crock on December 19, 2022, 18:01:48
This nice 1927 AC Six 2/3-seater was on display at the excellent Caramulo Museum, Portugal (situated in the Serra do Caramulo hills, between Lisbon and Porto). It had been there for some 17 years, on long-term loan, when it was offered for sale last year. However, it still shows on the museum's website, so may may not have sold. It is chassis no, 13723 (not 13725, as shown on the ACOC register - there are many errors on this register and it's about time another updated version was issued).
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Andrey1976b on December 23, 2022, 08:09:32
This nice 1927 AC Six 2/3-seater was on display at the excellent Caramulo Museum, Portugal (situated in the Serra do Caramulo hills, between Lisbon and Porto). It had been there for some 17 years, on long-term loan, when it was offered for sale last year. However, it still shows on the museum's website, so may may not have sold. It is chassis no, 13723 (not 13725, as shown on the ACOC register - there are many errors on this register and it's about time another updated version was issued).

Thank you!

I am currently working on my registry
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Andrey1976b on December 23, 2022, 08:16:46
one more photo

Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Old Crock on December 23, 2022, 15:49:47
I don't know the chassis number of this AC 4-cylinder (likely a Royal) and it is not recorded on the current ACOC register - there are no cars shown to be in India (and this one has been there a very long time). I do have some other period photographs of it though (attached):

Photo 1 - the car showed a slightly different registration number (BLA 7266) when this photo was taken in Calcutta (now Kolkata) during the war years. It has a headlight blackout cover so would date after late-1942 when the Japanese started bombing the city.

Photos 2 and 3 - taken at the same event (different years?) as in the previous posting by Andrey, now showing WBA 7266 but same car. Enormous spotlight fitted, no doubt to spot elephants, cows, donkeys and the many other things on Indian roads. Lots of horns fitted to move them along, plus getting cars and people out off the way - one horn is a nice 'boa constrictor-type'. The suspension looks decidedly dodgy and note the negative camber.

Photo 4 - another shot from India of the car, before all the 'accessories' were added.

I would suspect the car is still around 'somewhere' in India, knowing first-hand the ability of the local mechanics in keeping old cars on the road (by whatever means) and that this 'historic' vehicle would not be allowed to be exported now.
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Jam2 on December 24, 2022, 12:50:37
Interesting set of photos, I see they say “1919” and “only car of it’s kind” are either of those comments likely to be true?
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Andrey1976b on December 26, 2022, 04:45:02
I don't know the chassis number of this AC 4-cylinder (likely a Royal) and it is not recorded on the current ACOC register - there are no cars shown to be in India (and this one has been there a very long time). I do have some other period photographs of it though (attached):

Photo 1 - the car showed a slightly different registration number (BLA 7266) when this photo was taken in Calcutta (now Kolkata) during the war years. It has a headlight blackout cover so would date after late-1942 when the Japanese started bombing the city.

Photos 2 and 3 - taken at the same event (different years?) as in the previous posting by Andrey, now showing WBA 7266 but same car. Enormous spotlight fitted, no doubt to spot elephants, cows, donkeys and the many other things on Indian roads. Lots of horns fitted to move them along, plus getting cars and people out off the way - one horn is a nice 'boa constrictor-type'. The suspension looks decidedly dodgy and note the negative camber.

Photo 4 - another shot from India of the car, before all the 'accessories' were added.

I would suspect the car is still around 'somewhere' in India, knowing first-hand the ability of the local mechanics in keeping old cars on the road (by whatever means) and that this 'historic' vehicle would not be allowed to be exported now.

Thank you!
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Old Crock on December 26, 2022, 14:06:29
Interesting set of photos, I see they say “1919” and “only car of it’s kind” are either of those comments likely to be true?

Very difficult to precisely age this car as so many things have been changed and moved around, not unusual for India. Some examples; it has two-panel windscreen whereas very early post-WW1 cars had single pane, the sidelights are on the wings (which themselves look fabricated) when early post-war cars had sidelamps at the windscreen frame. The running boards look 'early' yet the wire-wheels are clearly much later. Bumpers are a random addition, of course. The AC radiator logo script is not the early-type and dates from late '23 onwards, the ventilators (and their shape) are also from 1924. Horns at the windscreen may be replicating an early fashion, and of value in India anyway.

One other thing to add. Straight after the war some Fivet engines were found and brought back from France to start manufacture again - these cars in 1919, the year quoted, were bodied in the prewar Edwardian-style, very different to this car. This was though the start of using Anzani engines and the car bodies rapidly progressed e.g. the scuttle shape as per this car.

The car just looks to be early 1920's to me, maybe 1924 (or so).
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Andrey1976b on January 11, 2023, 08:15:02
About this car, is anything known to a respected society?

Most often referred to as - 1922 Joyce-AC
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Andrey1976b on January 23, 2023, 09:53:35
Do you think it's the same car?
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: jonto on January 23, 2023, 19:02:08
I think Joyces 100 in the hour car, used the Hawker chassis, with parallel front springs, and the 16v engine, certainly the Hawker body.  The lightweight sprinter had splayed front springs, one of the 200 mile race chassis, perhaps a mix of parts by this time. One chassis went to Raymond Mays for the supercharged hill climb car, this may have been the ex Hawker chassis, must look out my pictures. The lightweight sprinter was sold to Jack Ackhead, a garage proprieter at Southport, and raced on the sands. Did the sprinter have two incarnations, single and two seater, or were there two cars built? One of the three 200mile race cars was crashed, upside down off the track at Brooklands, so may have been then uncerviceable, leaving two more cars to use for later events.
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Is this chassis number unknown?  :)

One of the AC works racecars, here being driven by John Joyce on the Brooklands Test Hill in 1925.

This is the same car that averaged 100mph for an hour at Brooklands driven by Joyce, (which means, at times, it was likely to have been travelling at around 115mph). The car also contested the Junior Car Club 200-mile racing in 1922 and ’24, finishing third on both occasions. It won the Brighton Speed Trials two years in a row and held the test hill record for many years.

AC sold the car in the mid/late 1920's and it was only used for a couple more years. From 1929 to the early 1960s it was left in storage before being dug out to go back racing again in the hands of Denis Jenkinson (the same, who co-partnered Moss in the Mercedes 300SLR in the Mille Miglia).

This was another car that was displayed at the ACOC centenary event in Thames Ditton.

I’ve never seen a chassis number so assume, as one of a small batch of race-cars, it was effectively a one-off (the chassis was far from being ‘standard’ anyway being drilled everywhere for lightness).
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: jonto on January 23, 2023, 19:09:03
I've had a look in my pictures, the Mays car has splayed from springs, so a 200 mile race chassis, as can be seen in the picture. Another picture shows Joyce in the lightweight at the far end of the Brooklands finishing straight, the fourth picture shows the car after a hicup in the hands of Ackhead at southport.
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: jonto on January 23, 2023, 19:13:05
Postscript, in the pictures above the Mays car does not appear to have the drilled chassis side members.
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Robin A Woolmer on January 23, 2023, 19:30:23
It might have an under tray!
Robin
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: jonto on January 23, 2023, 21:56:06
Could be.
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Old Crock on January 24, 2023, 09:21:47
Do you think it's the same car?

Yes, it's the same AC Royal that is in Sweden. Chassis number 30427 which, again, is recorded wrongly, with the wrong registration, in the ACOC register. Interesting that it carries the Acedes name on the radiator, but likely correct as the car was apparently first registered in 1927 (the year the company came under S F Edge's full control, and renamed AC (Acedes) Ltd.) - this period had the six-cylinder in full production and the popularity of the four had diminished.
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Andrey1976b on January 24, 2023, 10:31:37
Do you think it's the same car?

Yes, it's the same AC Royal that is in Sweden. Chassis number 30427 which, again, is recorded wrongly, with the wrong registration, in the ACOC register. Interesting that it carries the Acedes name on the radiator, but likely correct as the car was apparently first registered in 1927 (the year the company came under S F Edge's full control, and renamed AC (Acedes) Ltd.) - this period had the six-cylinder in full production and the popularity of the four had diminished.

Thank you!!!
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: paho on January 24, 2023, 13:21:57
Do you think it's the same car?

Yes, it's the same AC Royal that is in Sweden. Chassis number 30427 which, again, is recorded wrongly, with the wrong registration, in the ACOC register. Interesting that it carries the Acedes name on the radiator, but likely correct as the car was apparently first registered in 1927 (the year the company came under S F Edge's full control, and renamed AC (Acedes) Ltd.) - this period had the six-cylinder in full production and the popularity of the four had diminished.

So the ACOC registers are open information to the public?
/Paho
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: administrator on January 25, 2023, 09:24:09
Although access to the registers is restricted to current ACOC members, the information in those published on the club website is regarded as public domain information.  The register entry for a particular car may be provided by a registrar in response to bona fide enquiries from non-members, for example from a prospective purchaser.  Any other information not in the public domain (and there is a lot out there - there are numerous photos of both my ACs on the internet) is regarded as confidential.  Some information in the published registers is shown as 'Withheld' on request.
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Andrey1976b on January 25, 2023, 09:32:04
It seems that our club does not have this photo
Moscow, 1979
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: paho on January 26, 2023, 14:09:56
Although access to the registers is restricted to current ACOC members, the information in those published on the club website is regarded as public domain information.  The register entry for a particular car may be provided by a registrar in response to bona fide enquiries from non-members, for example from a prospective purchaser.  Any other information not in the public domain (and there is a lot out there - there are numerous photos of both my ACs on the internet) is regarded as confidential. Some information in the published registers is shown as 'Withheld' on request.
Whom can I contact via the forum e-mail feature to "withhold" certain information from the register?
/Paho
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: administrator on January 27, 2023, 08:38:04
Contact the relevant registrar directly - contact details are in ACtion.
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: paho on January 27, 2023, 12:47:22
Contact the relevant registrar directly - contact details are in ACtion.
That was in John A. in 2021 is that still correct? I haven't been a member since 2021.
/Paho
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Andrey1976b on March 10, 2023, 05:43:12
12592 or 14201?
Title: Re: Historic photos of AC's!
Post by: Old Crock on March 10, 2023, 11:12:55
This is the only surviving AC Six with a 'single coupe' body - this was offered by the factory and you'll see the window frames are solid. The car was part of the collection of C W P Hampton of Hamptons Estate Agents. He had a marvellous collection including Bugatti, Rolls-Royce, Hispano-Suiza and a Mercedes 'S' from 1927, a car I acted as middle-man in its sale. I remember we had to change the gear change as Hampton had it modified - he had a damaged arm; I believe he was shot down in a Spitfire during the war. One of his Bugattis was 'Black Bess' which sold for $2.5 million in 2009.

His AC Six was always immaculately turned out (as were all his cars) and he was most precise in its restoration (including using Rexine hood material). It is chassis number 12481, registration number SH2453, first registered in 1926.   
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 13, 2023, 06:24:09
This is the only surviving AC Six with a 'single coupe' body - this was offered by the factory and you'll see the window frames are solid. The car was part of the collection of C W P Hampton of Hamptons Estate Agents. He had a marvellous collection including Bugatti, Rolls-Royce, Hispano-Suiza and a Mercedes 'S' from 1927, a car I acted as middle-man in its sale. I remember we had to change the gear change as Hampton had it modified - he had a damaged arm; I believe he was shot down in a Spitfire during the war. One of his Bugattis was 'Black Bess' which sold for $2.5 million in 2009.

His AC Six was always immaculately turned out (as were all his cars) and he was most precise in its restoration (including using Rexine hood material). It is chassis number 12481, registration number SH2453, first registered in 1926.   

Thank you so much!!!
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 13, 2023, 10:17:31
AC Cyclecar at the exhibition "The First Motors of Russia" in the Special Purpose Garage Museum (2023)
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 20, 2023, 06:32:27
AC Sociable #AC 3048
AC 10HP #AC..47.

Hotel Royal Huts, 1913.
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 21, 2023, 05:51:20
AC Sociable
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 22, 2023, 05:13:02
AC Sociable. #S 3636
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 22, 2023, 05:13:56
AC Sociable. #AC 2760
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 22, 2023, 05:14:49
AC Sociable. #AR 173...
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 22, 2023, 05:16:30
AC Sociable. #T 785
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 22, 2023, 05:17:07
1922
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 22, 2023, 05:19:16
AC Six. #PK 6322.
Often there are photos with him
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 22, 2023, 05:20:20
AC 10HP. #AC 3871.
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 22, 2023, 05:21:39
AC 12HP
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 22, 2023, 05:23:16
AC 12HP
April 1923 , JCC Spring Meeting
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 23, 2023, 06:46:57
AC 12HP

February 1925, Colmore Cup Trial.
Driver - H.C. Turner
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 24, 2023, 05:26:29
1929, Vancouver
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 28, 2023, 04:39:43
AutoCarrier Delivery Box Van. #H 5705
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 28, 2023, 04:40:05
AutoCarrier Delivery Box Van
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 29, 2023, 06:09:08
AC 10HP Fivet #LL 4832
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 29, 2023, 06:18:39
AC 10HP Fivet #P 29 AC
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Post by: Old Crock on March 29, 2023, 11:24:32
There are very important historical photos being shown here. Andrey has done a fine job in finding them and copying across to the forum.

The club archivist needs to ensure that these are now held permanently in the ACOC archives for future reference and research.
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 30, 2023, 11:09:41
AC 10HP Fivet #P 36 AC
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 30, 2023, 11:10:15
AC 10HP Fivet
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 30, 2023, 11:12:59
AC 10HP Fivet
1920 - London to Edinburgh Run (#329)
Owneк - S.H. Roe.
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 30, 2023, 11:14:31
AC 10HP Light Armor
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 31, 2023, 04:05:11
AC 12HP Royal #AC...
1920 - London to Land`s End. Driver: W.G. Brownsort
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 31, 2023, 04:06:53
AC 12HP #AC 156
Driver: G.F. Reeve
1920 - London to Edinburgh Run. Driver A. Noble
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 31, 2023, 04:11:33
AC 12HP #AC 3864
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 31, 2023, 04:12:49
AC 12HP #ER 388...
1925 - Inter Varsity Trial (#47)
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 31, 2023, 04:14:16
AC 12HP
5 February 1925 , Colmore Cup. Driver: Turner
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 31, 2023, 04:15:18
AC 12HP #GU 506
1929 - MCC Sporting Trial (#67). Driver C.J. Fryer
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 31, 2023, 04:18:02
AC 12HP #NX 7227

1925 - Sutton Coldfield Trial (#52). Driver: L.M. Roper
1925 - JCC South West Trial (#22). Driver: L.M. Roper
1925 - Colmore Cup (#219). Driver: L.M. Roper
1926 - Wood Green Clubs Trial (#99). Driver: L.M. Roper
1927 - Colmore Cup. Driver: L.M. Roper
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 31, 2023, 04:19:45
AC 12HP #OF 1057
1929 - Wood Green Clubs Trial. Driver: J.E.H. Weekes
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Post by: Andrey1976b on March 31, 2023, 04:21:46
AC 12HP? #OI 2467
1971 - Autohistoriska Rallyt
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 03, 2023, 07:41:07
AC Sociable #IA 551
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 03, 2023, 07:42:01
AC 12HP #0048 A
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 03, 2023, 07:46:49
AC 12HP #OW 42 U

Not a historical photo, but I did not find this car in the registry.
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 03, 2023, 07:49:04
AC 12HP #P 5 AC

Photo from 1921
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 03, 2023, 07:50:54
AC 12HP #PB 8790
1922 - Light Car Trial (#D39). Driver: W.G. Brownsort

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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 03, 2023, 07:53:29
AC 12HP #PC 6825

Photo from 1925

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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 03, 2023, 07:55:02
AC 12HP #PC 8203

1923 - JCC Efficiency Trial (#31). Drive: Joyce
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 03, 2023, 07:56:09
AC 12HP #PC 8245
1922 - JCC South Harting Hill Climb (#14). Driver: Viola Meeking
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 03, 2023, 07:57:49
AC 12HP #PC 9837
1923 - JCC Efficiency Trial. Driver: Brownsort
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 03, 2023, 07:59:19
AC 12HP #PD 1065
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 04, 2023, 05:48:48
AC 12HP #PD 2985
Reliability Trial. Driver: W.G. Brownsort
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 04, 2023, 05:50:13
AC 12HP #PD 3722
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 04, 2023, 05:51:08
AC 12HP #PD 6697
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 04, 2023, 05:52:27
AC 12HP #PD 7496

1925 - London to Exeter and Back Run (#376). Driver: W.P.G. Stephens
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 04, 2023, 05:54:20
AC 12HP #PD 7885
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 04, 2023, 05:57:24
AC 12HP #PD 9058
1924 - JCC Efficiency Trial (#62). Driver: W.G. Brownsort
1924 - RAC Small Car Trials (#21). Driver V.A. Bruce
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 04, 2023, 06:00:02
AC 12HP #PE 1015
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 04, 2023, 06:06:31
AC 12HP #PE 1844
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 04, 2023, 06:08:25
AC 12HP #PE 3256
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 04, 2023, 06:09:28
AC 12HP #PE 8814

1926 - JCC High Speed Trials. Driver: Joyce
1927 - London to Gloucester Trial (#243). Driver: R. Clark
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 05, 2023, 07:44:06
AC 12HP #PE 9668
1926 - JCC High Speed Trials. Driver: V. Bruce
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 05, 2023, 07:45:07
AC 12HP #PF 1445
1926 - JCC High Speed Trials (#14). Driver: S.G. Nash
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 05, 2023, 07:46:50
AC 12HP #PS 100
1919 - owned G.C. Stead?
1919 - EDMC Scottish Six Days (#32). Driver: G.C. Stead
JCC September Meeting (#22). Driver: G.C. Stead
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 05, 2023, 07:48:10
AC 12HP #UE 2243
1926 - Wood Green Clubs Trial (#43). Driver: M.G. Corbett
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 05, 2023, 07:49:14
AC 12HP #XL 8682
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 05, 2023, 07:49:53
AC 12HP #XL 9202
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 05, 2023, 07:51:12
AC 12HP #YN 3153
1926 - London to Land`s End Turn (#408). Driver: H.E. Symons
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 05, 2023, 07:52:16
AC 12HP #YO 9042
1926 - London to Gloucester Trial (#211). Driver: P.H. Manners
1927 - Inter Varsity Trial (#36). Driver: P.H. Manners
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 05, 2023, 07:54:23
AC 12HP
Driver: J.S. Morgan (#9)
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 05, 2023, 07:56:24
AC 12HP
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 06, 2023, 10:29:03
AC 12HP
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 06, 2023, 10:29:25
AC 12HP
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 06, 2023, 10:29:48
AC 12HP
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 06, 2023, 10:31:24
AC 16HP Acedes #AA121...
I did not find this car in the registry
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 06, 2023, 10:32:41
AC 16HP Acedes
April 1925, Surbiton Clubs Grand Cup Trial
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 06, 2023, 10:34:27
AC 16HP Acedes #PE 7799

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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 06, 2023, 10:35:39
AC 16HP Acedes #PE 9786
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 06, 2023, 10:36:55
AC 16HP Acedes #PG 1159
July 1929, Brighton Concours D'Elegance. Driver: V. Bruce
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 06, 2023, 10:38:30
AC 16HP Acedes #PH4...65
August 1928, Woking Clubs Seven Counties Trial

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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 07, 2023, 07:32:17
AC 16HP Acedes #PH 456...
June 1928 , Sunbeam Club 200 Mile Trial
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 07, 2023, 07:33:57
AC 16HP Acedes #PK 1506
July 1928 , Bournemouth Concours D'Elegance
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 07, 2023, 07:35:16
AC 16HP Acedes #PK 6322
March 1929 , JCC Half Day Trial. Driver: A.J. Mollart
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 07, 2023, 07:37:11
AC 16HP Acedes #UE 6797
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 07, 2023, 07:38:46
AC 16HP Acedes #YP 7923
1929 - Sunbeam M.C.C. Bognor Trial (#227)
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 07, 2023, 07:39:31
AC 16HP Acedes

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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 07, 2023, 09:08:59
AC 16HP Acedes
Street Scene Thames River Water Ditton
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 07, 2023, 09:11:02
AC 16/56 Acedes
1928
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 07, 2023, 09:11:26
AC 16HP Acedes
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 10, 2023, 06:52:23
AC Sociable #977
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Post by: Andrey1976b on April 10, 2023, 06:53:55
AC 12HP #8796?
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Post by: ACOCArch on April 10, 2023, 11:55:28
AC Cyclecar at the exhibition "The First Motors of Russia" in the Special Purpose Garage Museum (2023)

The underpinnings of this car is the only known surviving four-wheeled AC Cyclecar. The model had a front-mounted AC Sociable single-cylinder engine, a centrally mounted  countershaft with epicyclic gearbox, a chain drive to the rear axle and no differential.  Only one rear wheel was driven.

Whilst in the Crimea the example shown was back-fitted with a BSA twin-cylinder engine. A correct AC engine has been sent to the current owner but has not yet been fitted.

This particular car,  and the model generally, have been extensively reviewed in ACtion, including the  April 2012, September 2013, and June 2021 issues.
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Post by: Andrey1976b on May 10, 2023, 09:58:05
A photo of AC Sociable (#1122) appeared on the ebay site for sale.

Photo from 1968
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Post by: Andrey1976b on July 04, 2023, 08:17:57
Not a Photo but...)
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Post by: Andrey1976b on July 17, 2023, 03:50:18
№14238

1932 - London to Edinburgh Run (№35). Driver: R.J.P. Morley
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Post by: Andrey1976b on August 09, 2023, 12:57:41
Help Wanted.

Is this Stead's sports car based on an AC car, or does it only use an AC engine?
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Post by: jonto on January 24, 2024, 22:33:21
1921 200 mile race side valve car.