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AC Owners Club Forum => General Forum => Topic started by: bruce craik on June 19, 2012, 09:34:31
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Had a brilliant International based on Dunkeld, so thanks to everyone who played a part in it but particularly to Jacqui and Howard.
When you watch this movie of the Rest and Be Thankful please remember that the skid plates on a CRS are the silencers...hence the time...
Rest and Be Thankful
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdZ8y4cSExM
But is there a slower time?
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Complete suspension rebuild?
Gus
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Yes, a great event! Thanks to Howard and Jacqui, and their crew!
A wonderful and happy motoring in the MkIV over 9 days and 3745 kms.
Here are two pics of the hill climb track. Historic start was half way up the hill. Howard just waiting his turn in his blue Greyhound.
Constant
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(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w34/MkIVLux/ACOC%20Int%202012/RestBeThankful.jpg)
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w34/MkIVLux/ACOC%20Int%202012/RestBeThankfulstart.jpg)
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Amazing how the camera flattens the landscape, seemed much steeper in the real.
Blue Greyhound is that of John Goose, Ace Brooklands in front of Greyhound is that of the younger Goose - I can advise that the modern Ace, like the MK1V & CRS, is not ideally suited to dirt track driving !!
All in all a great experience.
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Originally posted by DGoose
Amazing how the camera flattens the landscape, seemed much steeper in the real.
Blue Greyhound is that of John Goose, Ace Brooklands in front of Greyhound is that of the younger Goose - I can advise that the modern Ace, like the MK1V & CRS, is not ideally suited to dirt track driving !!
All in all a great experience.
thanks David for correcting the car ownership.. did not have my attendance list at hand [:I]
indeed, in the MkIV it was just going up in idling mode, for the sake of having been part of it!
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Lunch at Loch Fyne
(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj101/flyinghorse_lc/IMG_19912.jpg)
Graham
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And a few more:
LM5000 at rest & be thankful
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Balmoral-hope no oil leaks....
(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj101/flyinghorse_lc/LM5000Balmoral.jpg)
Balmoral
(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj101/flyinghorse_lc/BE212.jpg)
Rest and be thankful
(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj101/flyinghorse_lc/A98TheRest2.jpg)
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Stunning!!
Gus
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And here in the states we think we have it tough when we have to drive narrow California backroads from winery to winery!
There are obviously not trailer queens!
John
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One of the biggest benefits of the ACOC Internationals, is the chance to share some spectacular experiences as a group, and then to sit down on a different table each night to discuss the day, and make new friends. Being far from home with 50 year old cars, creates the opportunity to help each other out, which forges lifelong friendships. In Scotland we had one clutch fixed, a couple of leaks, an exhaust mount fractured and fell off, a coil went down, etc etc. Each time one or more of the group set to and fixed the problem and kept the cars on the tour. The Rest and Be Thankful Hillclimb was a bit of a rally special stage with its loose surface, but several of the cars gave it a serious go! We all contributed money to the group which is restoring the track to its former glory, and one day we hope to see it used for serious competitions. So far we do not have a venue for the 2013 ACOC International. Are there any volunteers who would like to give it a try. We have many members who have been there and organised previous events, and who will give any help required! Somewhere warm would be nice. Andy.
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Going to Scotland and calling it an international is a bit of a stretch...[;)]But hearing the Scottish soccer fans speak of the English the last time I visited Amsterdam's illustrious "district" certainly would underscore that perspective from their side! No words minced there! [:D]
Anyway, why not an "international" in the US? Maybe tied in with a major event such as one of the major concourses? I suppose there are more than a few State side members that would enjoy that.. Maybe a good reason for some of the UK fellows to ship their cars and do an extended vacation here, driving their cars... Michigan and Wisconsin have fabulous summers with incredible driving roads, small towns and we could end up or stage it surrounding the Road America vintage race fest in July (one of the largest in the US with 1000 registered cars). Or drive Colorado, staging from the Shelby American Museum in Boulder. Or California and be part of the Monterrey peninsula extravaganza in August. Pacific Coast Highway is spectacular and I'm sure Napa and Sonoma would have an appeal to a lot of us! (maybe no Bishop's finger there, Trevor)
Just some thoughts.. Any ideas?
Gus
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Originally posted by Gus Meyjes
Going to Scotland and calling it an international is a bit of a stretch...[;)].......
Anyway, why not an "international" in the US? ........ Maybe a good reason for some of the UK fellows to ship their cars and do an extended vacation here.....
Gus
that would be another bit of a stretch .... for the wallet [;)] .... but good idea though [:)]
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I second Gus' thoughts on a U.S. get together. I would be up for a mid-west get together or here in California (where I am), as Gus mentions, would be terrific in August for the Monterey Historics. Understanding Mk IV Lux's comments that the "wallet" impact would be steep.....
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I would love to ship an AC over and enjoy the US roads. Hey Gus, the trip to Scotland took me just 3 hrs less than it takes me to drive to Monaco!! Scotland is certainly International! For the US International, if we asked Jim F nicely, I think he has enough ACs to kit us all out and then we would only need the air fare. I know Bill Bridges can't make the ACOC National Day at Stonor on 19th August because he is taking his Hairy Canary Cobra to Laguna Seca. I will find out how much it costs and what are the problems driving one of our pollution generators on US roads.It sounds like a long shot, but never say never! Andy
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Just think of all those 428s....[:p]
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The wallet impact may or may not be that steep. It all depends on how you ship your car. Roll on roll off to the east coast will probably set you back between $500 and $1000. Same for a container. Get together with a couple of guys and ship 2 cars in a 40 footer. My brother is in international shipping through Mammoth. He can probably work up some connections if people would really be interested. Hell, He might ship his Jag and join you.
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I'll make an attempt to meet Bill. Hopefully I'll be at the ACOC/Cobra dinner organized by Jerry Rosenstock. It might be a good opportunity to gauge interest in a State side "international". I would not be surprised if any of the events (Pebble Beach, The quail, Carmel concourse etc, would be interested in welcoming the ACOC and a gaggle of AC's.
Gus
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Sounds fantastic, and mines Stateside legal!
Need plenty of notice though and no school holidays please!
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Looks like this might go somewhere...
Maybe I can be put in contact with current organizers of nationals and internationals to bounce around ideas and gain from experience.
I'll keep at it.
Gus
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(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w363/BPBird/ACatCambo.jpg)
Trying again, but Graham is a poor instructor so fingers crossed.
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Crikey it worked. All photographs credited to Linzi Smart. Well sounds to me like the American/Canadian International is on. Air freight would be nice, as would a sponsor, but sea freight and Motel 6 would do.(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w363/BPBird/CSX2033AshleyBirdincharge.jpg)
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Not that many castles in the US, but this one will do: My wife and AEX674 in front of the Biltmore in Asheville, NC.
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p222/AEX674/IMG_4615.jpg)
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I remember that the Mulaceks had brought 4 Aces from Chicago to Le Mans Classic in 2010...
.. so the other way round should be feasible...
I'll try to convince the only Luxembourgish AC team to join in [;)]... provided the trip will include some laps at Laguna Seca, Watkins Glen, Road America or thelike [;)][;)]
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w34/MkIVLux/LMC%202010/LMC2010ACAceBristolsoftheMulaceksbroughtfromChicago.jpg)
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Any big Concours events going on at the same time for US based 428s and all other ACs making it one big party as this would also hopefully fill in nearly all the last remaining unknown 428 Register and Archive entries as well....
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Hi Gus, before you go to too much trouble, let me discuss the idea of a possible US International at next Thursday's Council Meeting in London. From personal experience organising the Diamond Jubilee International ay Brooklands in 2010, you need to have a team of helpers who can manage the various elements of the event, otherwise it will drive you mad. I was lucky to have AC friends locally who took on the organisation of hotels, road trips, lunches, visits to places of interest etc. In Scotland, Howard and Jacqui did a great job, and had their team of Barrie, Bill, Roger and Fiona and others to spread the load. Previously we have visited most of the countries of Europe, so there is plenty of experience to call on. Perhaps any members who are seriously interested in going to the USA in 2013 could add their support by posting on this thread.
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Excellent. I'm encouraged by the the positive feedback so far. I believe only a limited number of ACOC members frequent the forum, hopefully there will be more interest. I never spoke with Jim Feldman. Shep, you have my email, if you want to drop me Jim's Email if you have it.
Generally, how many days do you guys cover for these events and on average how many miles per day?
Curious to hear the feedback from your meeting. Considering the logistics of members shipping to the US, moving forward with organization at the earliest time possible would be beneficial.
Maybe interested members can throw out some suggestions with regards to what their interests may be.
Another venue that may be of interest to visit would be a SAAC annual. Always staged at a Race track. This year they were at the Glen. Although seeing 50 AC's parked at a special Corral at Pebble Beach would be spectacular!!
Gus
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Hi Gus,
My view and I suspect that of many other ordinary UK & European members would be that a club wide US international, fantastic as it sounds, would not happen.
The prospect of shipping a car stateside sounds a little scary and is highly unlikely to meet with financial approval from the dear sweet wife!!
Now, I would think with the number of US members in the club a US equivalent of our international should be quite feasible and maybe, just maybe, a smattering of members from across the pond would turn up.
If you fancy a go arranging something I'm sure the membership secretary could help out with e-mail's & addresses etc.
I've always thought it would be good to drive route66 in an open mustang but an AC would be even better, maybe when I retire!
Good luck,
David
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I will express an interest in an 'Across The Pond International' Gus. There are so many questions, but we have the first ingredient - enthusiasm.
The primary question is cost and you need to quantify that at an early stage. The main cost will be car transport and in that connection the variables are East or West coast, Air or Sea, North, Canada or South, U.S.A. The great adventure of arriving East and driving West (and back?) might be a consideration for the deeply smitten A.C. enthusiast.
Joining up with the S.A.A.C. would make track time an economic possibility, but their planning is, of necessity, longer term than ours as they are so much larger and an early contact will be essential.
I am sure BGS could give us a brief on insurance options.I believe Simon Taylor has his Ace 2.6 across at Pebble Beach this year so he would be up to date on one off shipping.
Some serious work will have to be done on sponsorship to make the economics possible for all members. It would be a shame if we could not get a representative selection of models through the decades to join in.
Jim Feldman is not a great email user, better to fax him Gus - see list of Club Officers in ACtion for number.
So far as mileage is concerned it depends on a) Are you planning a fixed base with 'out and back' journeys or b) A rolling base between daily outings ? You also need to cater for a wide performance capability, both cars and drivers (some of the youngsters have trouble keeping the Old Timers in sight) so a route which can be short cut is a help. Our longest day in Scotland was 180 miles which was hard work through the hills and none of this effeminate winery to winery stuff either, it was distillery to distillery. Of course on an Interstate this distance would be easy for some A.C.s , but not the older ones maybe. Speaking of Interstates does Nevada still have no speed limits? A98 (and LM5000) would like that......
As Andy wisely points out (killjoy) before investing too much time and hope in this wonderful idea it will be wise to consider the solution to a few basic problems first.
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I have to agree that there are many ends to tie up, but I for one have always wanted to tour the highways of the USA and this would be an incredible way to do it.
I'd treat it as a once in a lifetime chance and would go out of my way to try and be there.
Hopefully others would see it the same way.
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I hope to do the same one day in Europe. But even a state side trip like this would be a very unique experience for most of us here, I'm sure. Without getting ahead of myself I am excited about the feedback. I would be more than willing to take on organizing this and being that it would be the first stateside "international" I'm hoping there will be lots of interest. I have connections here that can be of good use in order to get a large contingent going.
Gus
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A couple of years ago I shipped my car to Jordan for a two week event the car was on a boat for five weeks each way and it also required a maritime insurance policy. If the cars go by sea you have to plan to be without the car for much of the summer. Air shipping would certainly be easier, but either way a major consideration would be customs making sure the paperwork was in order so we didn’t pay taxes.
The main business of the place where I store my car is worldwide transportation of high value vehicles. I can ask them for an indication of costs if you like.
John.
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I'll ask my brother how he could be of help. Atlantic crossings tend to go a lot faster and it just depends on what route the ship is on. If you collect your car at the first port of call, it may just be a couple of weeks or less.
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Hi Gus, these replies are exactly what we want to see. I agree with David that it may well be a USA Chapter meeting, perhaps with half a dozen Europeans making the trip, BUT.... If it takes off like Keith's gas caps then we may all be surprised! To make the subject more visible on the Forum, why not start a new thread entitled "2013 International USA?" I would put in the ? mark until it becomes official. Andy.
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PS. Note for Barrie, I think my Uncle Fred was involved in some interesting distilled products around Chicago in the 1920s. I'm sure Gus can alternate between Vinyards at lunchtime and Distilleries approaching sundown!
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ACOC USA International 2013 or 2014
The various ACOC Internationals I've partaken in over the years have been greatly enjoyed, the daily mileage of 150/200 miles or so pales into insignificanse when including traveling to and from host Country.
e.g leaving home in UK to Bayerische Wald (Bavarian Forest) and back... ACOC Int 2008 in 8 days mileage was 2146 miles. 2 days there, 4 days event 2 days return.. max 500 miles in a day.
ACOC Int Luxemburg in 2005 was approx 1400 miles.
ACOC Int 2003 to Ollons Villers ( Geneva) Left Friday home early Tuesday.
Constants ACOC Scotish Rally 2012. Luxumberg to Scotland and back in his MK1V Cobra was some 3200Km
Could be interested in Taking BEX333 back to USA for a few weeks (NW, Vancouver BC ..where it was raced in the 1950s & 1960s) [;)] Subject to £££sss in Transport and Insurance.[?]
Please keep me in the Loop....
Keith..[:)]..[:)]
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Yes indeed Keith.. our cars are made for being driven.. that's wherer we enjoy them most....
New York to San Francisco would just be 900 kms more than my Scotish International two weeks ago, having covered 3750 kms in 9 days with the MkIV.
My Swedish international in 2007 took me through Germany, Denmark,to Sweden and return via Denmark, Germany then a business related loop to Innsbruck (Austria), over 3800 kms in 12 days with the MkIV.
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Only transport and insurance cost could be a show stopper for a US international
Keep me in the loop [:)]
Constant
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So far I am very encouraged by your responses. A cross country trip would be fabulous and a once in a lifetime trip for all. I'd like to avoid straight interstate driving, but considering a northern port of arrival (Boston) there would be some great sight seeing, mountain driving, Niagara falls, great lakes, badlands, Yellowstone, rocky mountains, California.. incredible stuff! All or most on roads less traveled and some on interstate, in order to make some good time in the boring sections. For anyone that has not been stateside and driven cross country: this land is absolutely enormous! Talking about "made to be driven", are you ready for some 7000 miles?
Gus
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I really like this idea...
For what it's worth, if we make it a west coast run around the time of Monterey, you could then drive up north towards San Francisco and I would be happy to host all of you at the Concours that I am proud to be Chairman of - The Hillsborough Concours. The longest continually running Concours in the world...56 straight years. There are older, but none have run continuously. We run the weekend after Pebble Beach.
I will be racing my ACECA - BE-603 again in the Historics/Reunion this year. Come see some sliding madness.
Check us out at www.hillsboroughconcours.org
Let's make this happen!
Rob
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Originally posted by Gus Meyjes
... Talking about "made to be driven", are you ready for some 7000 miles?
Gus
that might be a bit much for a week....
... and not everybody drives a MkIV, so there are many older cars on our internationals that one has to consider
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Well, for a week, yes. But I figured the European contingent would take a little extra time for such a long trip.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves and speculate on time and distance. We will have to figure out what would be the most advantageous arrival port and go from there. I did get help offered from Jonathan Parker in Canada to organize, in case it might happen. What ever it is that may happen, it will be done with all considered and allowing for the broadest number of participants.
Gus
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A cross-continent trip by Cobra was done back in the 80s - from New York to California to attend a SAAC convention, car shipped home from LA. All things are possible, just requires time and money!
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Trevor, are you suggesting http://tinyurl.com/cnkg8kr
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Right, I will be discussing the possibility of a USA trip at the ACOC Council meeting on Thursday evening, and it would be useful to have a very very rough idea of how many cars we could muster for a North American raid. If everyone who is seriously interested posts their vote on this forum, and advises of any friends they think may come too, I will have some idea of what is possible. Something like:
Andy and Karen Shepherd Cobra Mk IV plus Ted and Murray Shepherd Ace Bristol. Total 2 cars from UK.
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Originally posted by Gus Meyjes
I'll make an attempt to meet Bill. Hopefully I'll be at the ACOC/Cobra dinner organized by Jerry Rosenstock. It might be a good opportunity to gauge interest in a State side "international". I would not be surprised if any of the events (Pebble Beach, The quail, Carmel concourse etc, would be interested in welcoming the ACOC and a gaggle of AC's.
Gus
Bill is a really nice guy to chat to, I have spoken to him a few times.
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If a U.S. International comes together somehow, and such an event takes place in California, another thought that might be nice (in addition to the Monterey Historics and Hillsborough Concours) is an exhibition of the Club members' cars at the Blackhawk Museum in Danville, CA, which is across the San Francisco Bay from Hillsborough (about 50 minutes drive). The museum is world class and affiliated with the Smithsonian Museum in Washington, D.C. They have some amazing cars there. Here is a link to the site.
http://www.blackhawkmuseum.org/
I am a member of the museum and they routinely have car club events there and also catered events as well if there is an interest in such. Last year there was a special display of Jaguar E-Types for the 50th anniversary and JAG (Jaguar Associates Group...a local club)had an event there and club display of its E-Types. I could look into the details some more at an appropriate time if there is interest.
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So why not just copy and continue with the list initiated by Andy:
Andy and Karen Shepherd Cobra Mk IV (UK)
Ted and Murray Shepherd Ace Bristol (UK)
Constant Wagner & Dany Georges Cobra Mk IV (Luxembourg)
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Keith Lessiter, Ace Bristol
Andy and Karen Shepherd Cobra Mk IV (UK)
Ted and Murray Shepherd Ace Bristol (UK)
Constant Wagner & Dany Georges Cobra Mk IV (Luxembourg)
Mike Harlow
Nick Revill
Barrie Bird
Classicus(?)
I have several interested parties state-side.
Gus
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Please add me to the list, after all there must be forty weeks of potential lottery wins before the trip...
AC Cobra Mk IV CRS
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quote:
Originally posted by Gus Meyjes
Keith Lessiter, Ace Bristol
Andy and Karen Shepherd Cobra Mk IV (UK)
Ted and Murray Shepherd Ace Bristol (UK)
Constant Wagner & Dany Georges Cobra Mk IV (Luxembourg)
Mike Harlow
Nick Revill
Barrie Bird
Classicus(?)
I have several interested parties state-side.
Gus
Love to but unfortunately not as I don't own an AC....
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Owning a car should not be an impediment. I am sure many ACOC internationals have the odd non AC's or just daily drivers for practical reasons (Towing/luggage/spares car).
I would have thought being a club member is whats required. Some may wish to attend but won't want to ship their car for manyt reasons.
I note a Mustang convertible can be hired from LA for a week for about £258.
If controling numbers was important I could see preference given to those who commit to ship a vehicle.
Graham
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Originally posted by shep
Right, I will be discussing the possibility of a USA trip at the ACOC Council meeting on Thursday evening, and it would be useful to have a very very rough idea of how many cars we could muster for a North American raid. If everyone who is seriously interested posts their vote on this forum, and advises of any friends they think may come too, I will have some idea of what is possible. ......
to be complete, as most of the AC drivers I encountered on the Internationals are not active on the Forum, we would have to seek information also by other means....
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The object of the International is to gather like minded enthusiasts from the widest possible area, to meet each other socially, and build the co-operation and camaraderie within the ACOC. There have always been members who for one reason or another could not bring their AC and joined the tour in another "interesting" car. I would suggest we don't want to end up with a convoy of modern Fords or whatever, but the conditions for entry should be Membership of the ACOC, and being able to enter into the spirit of the event with or without an AC.
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Sounds like an interesting little jaunt!
Please add my wife and I to your list of interested parties together with our Cobra Superblower 7002.
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I spoke with my brother, who just retired from the international shipping business after 44 years. He gave me some contact information at the headquarters in Amsterdam and suggested that if there is enough interest a roll on roll off may be arranged with for example a pick up in Zeebrugge, Belgium and drop off at an East coast port. I will make contact with his assistance to see if this is a viable option. More than likely it will be the most economical way of shipping AC's from Europe to the USA and back.
I will keep you all posted.
http://www.transfennica.com/Index.aspx?pgeId=238
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Today I received a quote from Transfennica. They will ship round trip from Antwerp to Baltimore for 4000 Euros and can assist with customs clearance for another 75 euros per car. Food for thought...
Gus
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Gus,
That seems very reasonable. I can't imagine that it would be an awful lot less. I think that the whole trip will hinge on a fortnights bills and costs. If dramatic locations, fab events and good times can be achieved at reasonable cost then you will have lots of people willing to travel. For many Europeans this would be a trip of a lifetime and something they'd be willing to go the extra mile to achieve.
Whether there are any sponsors or reasons that organisations in the States would like the presence of such cars I have no idea, but I suspect the key here is keeping the costs at a minimum for the participants and adding value to a State side event or a Company sponsor.
I for one really hope that you can pull something off. I would be my dream International event.
Good luck to you.
:-)
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Originally posted by Gus Meyjes
Today I received a quote from Transfennica. They will ship round trip from Antwerp to Baltimore for 4000 Euros and can assist with customs clearance for another 75 euros per car. Food for thought...
Gus
4000 Euro sounds very realistic, but i think there are a lot of other costs for transport insurance (on my way back from Scotland i have meet some guys from the morgan car club netherlands and they had done the trip to the states one or two years ago and some of there cars were damaged on the transport) and car insurance for the united states (its not included in the normal car insurance) and of course Baltimore is at the east coast and most suggestions for the meeting are at the west coast so you need another tarnsport to the west coast or you have to go thousands of miles in sometimes old cars but of course if its coming true it will be the trip of the lifetime to go up the westcoast in my mkiv
Juergen
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In 2008 I was quoted £1500 from a UK carrier to transport a car from San Francisco to Portsmouth and whilst in California the price with a USA carrier magically dropped to $1500 from Monterey to Portsmouth - be careful who you book with and on which side of the Atlantic you do your booking with!!
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Thank you guys,
I appreciate the suggestions and please keep them coming! I'm very well aware that shopping around can be very beneficial. I doubt that the major manufacturers are paying those prices, so I'm sure it can be done for less. The key part is indeed where the event is going to take place. Monterrey and surroundings is a fantastic locations for all kinds of reasons, but it does add to travel cost and time, unless we can ship directly to the west coast and you guys can book a flight to San Fransisco or San Jose. Europeans will find that cost of living is less in the US and lodging generally is as well. Needless to say: you wish you had $3.5/gallon gas!!
I'm sure east or West coast, we can find fantastic roads to drive.
I think the most important part would be to see where the majority of you would like to go to.
As far as insurance goes, I believe Hagarty now also sells in the UK/Europe. This company has it's headquarters about 30 miles north from where I live. They may want to assist in this and maybe in sponsorship as well.
I don't want to get too far ahead of me, but a large number of AC's could attract some publicity from the media and therefore attract sponsorship.
Gus
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I now have emails out to three more shipping brokers for quotes for shipping to California. These brokers are being used by a classic car dealer in Monterrey, CA. Thanks to Bill Patterson to share the name of the dealer. I also made contact with Hagerty insurance.
I will keep you all posted on developments.
Gus
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Good news: The price is coming down. Multiple points of origin available. Drop off in LA. A west coast trip will be possible for roughly $4000 round trip (2500 UK pounds). That is a $1000 savings over the first quote. I asked for clarification, and as it stands that will include everything. Show up, drop your car off. Fly to LA, pick it up and drive off onto Pacific Coast Highway to Monterrey. They will handle all customs work and releasing the cars. And, they handle classic cars all the time.
Check out their link on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9unBxyAl6TI
I have done that drive twice, and I can tell you there is NOTHING like it. [:)][:)][:)]
As the info comes in, I'll keep you posted.
Gus
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This is beginning to look like a goer - would love to bring both le Mans cars. If we had 30 or 40 cars the price might take a further tumble. Keep at it Gus. Does Andy have any input from Official Channels ?
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Barrie,
I sent Andy an email with the update. I have not heard from him yet, he usually replies quickly. Vacation maybe?
I have two other quotes in the making. I would like to get a feeling for how many cars would be going, as we will have to make reservations early and contact event managers early on. Hotels book a year ahead, in case we want to stay in a reasonable radius from all the Monterrey action.
Excited to hear you want to go. Talk you your fellow owners at the track! I know there is a lot of interest on this side of the pond.
I suppose it is time to place an announcement in the ACtion.
Gus
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Gus.
Good positive response todate from many on both sides of the pond..[;)]
Before spending many hours of research and preparation, we need to have realistic idea of numbers really interested.
I book main Chateaux and Restaraunt for Le Mans Classic 2 years in advance, Ferry tickets 1 year in advance. Jean Marc & I find it consumes vast number of hours organising accommodation, dinner and function tickets for 120 plus people with 50/60 cars from 9 or 10 nationalities... form a Council / committee and delegate responsibilities. [;)]
Once you decide it is ON, then it is a case of Serious non refundable Deposit. (plus stage payments ..[?])
For the first time in 12 years we had a member cancel two weeks before the event, leaving the ACOC with 5 vacant rooms in one Chateau, Impossible to relet along with entry tickets, ACOC Gala Dinner......... If there is a Le Mans Classic number 7, It will be £££s $$$ or Euros up front. Suggest you do the same.
Mind you it is rare for a ACOC member to cancel and not honour costs incurred, However there is always a first, as I have recently learnt.[V].
Please note, Minority of Club Members visit the ACOC Forum, so good idea to update monthly via ACtion..[;)]
Hopefully the shipping and insurance package with potential sponsorship.[?] is within budget, I will definitely bring BEX333, If not I MUST beg, Borrow or steal a AC from one of our members on your side of the Pond.
Good Luck with the organising, Will keep in touch with you and Andy. assuming Andy is ACting as UK representative.
Cheers
Keith..[:)]..[:)]
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Keith,
I don't believe Andy sees himself as the UK coordinator (yet). I certainly did not ask him, but he did offer to bring it to the Council and test the waters. I have not heard from him on that. I think the next step for me is to place an announcement in the next ACtion.
I appreciate your suggestions, and please keep them coming!
Unfortunately few, if any, Chateaux to book at this side of the pond!![;)]
Gus
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Got another quote in, it's getting better all the time.
2 cars, one 40 foot container: $4000, all inclusive. We are now at 1250 UK pounds per car... Seems to me everyone can go now!!
I'm clearing up a few details on this one and than we'll have to decide on who to go with. Experience with transporting valuable classics is an important issue as well as experience with customs clearance for the temporary use of these cars state-side.
Gus
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Gus, not to complicate the issue, but there is usually a few cars from the European mainland joining in on the Internationals. Would you be able to ask for additional quote for containers from a port in France, Belgium or The Netherlands from where cars from this side of the Channel could be shipped?
Thanks in advance
Constant
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The first quote would include the opportunity to pick up at various European ports. So I don't think that would be an issue.
Unfortunately after I asked for clarification on the last quote, it turns out to be about the same as the first one. I think if we can have an easy process, with a shipper that does 1500 cars per month and who can pick up form various locations throughout Europe, that would be the way to go.
Gus
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ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
re:- Potential ACOC 2013 International in USA .
Please visit :- 428 Frua Forum.
Keith..[;)]
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There is a dedicated string for this exciting proposal.
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Robin.
This topic was posted throughout the ACOC Forum, I posted simply to indicate to those interested that as there are two distinct threads its worth consulting both.
You are right,A Intertnational in USA west Coast is a great idea and many of us have already shown our interest, Gus Meyjers will deinitely be pleased to hear of your interest, which one of your Cobras do you intend to ship across the pond.[?]
Good Luck Gus with your research and plans..[:p] please keep us all informed preferably via one thread on Forum and via ACtion on a monthly basis.
Unfortunately majority of the ACOC membership do not venture onto the forum, so are not always conversant with current issues and potential events, but could well be interested in this once in a lifetime ACOC International.[;)]
Keith ..[:)]