AC Owners Club Forum
AC Owners Club Forum => Mk IV, Superblower, CRS and other Continuation Cars Forum => Topic started by: Mark IV on January 01, 2007, 19:38:56
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OK,
Here are the first of the documents I have. There will be MANY more to follow as time and my steam-powered scanner allows.
(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q252/rcmuck/AK1065-doherty.jpg)
(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q252/rcmuck/AK1069-bovo.jpg)
(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q252/rcmuck/AK1069-inv.jpg)
(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q252/rcmuck/AK1116-inv.jpg)
More to come....
Rick
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Thanks Rick, these are very interesting. I note that one of the cars was invoiced with a hardtop. In all of the literature I have and have read, I don't recall a hardtop being mentioned. Do you have any idea or remember how many cars you took delivery of with a hardtop, or if the hardtop was even delivered? Also, do you remember the MSRP on these cars and whether you were able to sell them for more? John AK1103
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John,
The hardtop was a "one-off", Brain didn't want to do it and after he did I was told "no more." The owner with the hardtop regreted ordering it as he never uses it...he still has the car and his brother bought an 87 MK IV from me in 1999 in a deal I brokered.
The cars were $39,950.00 plus freight at first and, no, we did not mark them up over list.
There will be many more interesting documents to come.
Rick
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Rick,
Your a true gentlemen ... thanks .. I hope 1234 comes up some day ??
Ron
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Ron,
Sorry. 1234 is beyond my time with AC/Autokraft but the info exists in the "good book"
Trevor, what say you? Time for the copies to come forth...
Rick
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So its back into my cold dark loft is it? OK, I'll be back......
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Trevor,
Better you crawling around a cold, damp loft than me! My basement is dry and warm, just too damn many boxes to sort through. I am making progress and will continue to post the info here if wanted.
Rick
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Hokay - found it....as per the 'Bible' entry....
AK1234
Date: 8/7/88 (note: that is 7/8/88 the American way!)
Customer details: Dick Cranston Ford
Route 2
East Greenwich
Rhode Island 02818 USA
Body colour: Jaguar British Racing Green
Interior: Tan
Tonneau: Tan
Modifications: Spinners - in-car audio
Engine : 302 HO EFI
Ign: C43413
Boot: FS889
Bonnet:FS880
Fuel: JC705
and that's it I'm afraid.
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AK1103
Date: 23/10/85
Customer details: Karcz Ford
Highway 32 South
Pulaski
Wisconsin 54162 USA
SA9AK3021FAO17103
Colour: Blue, Mercedes Nautical metallic
Trim: Black
Modifications: Hood scoop
Ign: RO1372
G/box: SAFE1042
Boot:FS922
Bonnet: FS880
Fuel: JC111
Engine: 302/49 states
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AK1029
Date: 13/06/84
Customer details: R.Benedette
Kraftfahrzeuge & Zussehor
Geibelstrasse 4
4000 Dusseldorf 1
West Germany
Colour; Black
Trim: Red/Black piping
Tonneau: Black
Modifications: Hood scoop - Short nose - Alloy wheels - front air intake
Ign: NH2715
G/box: SAFE6137
Boot: FS932
Bonnet: FS913
Fuel: FT/VM203
Engine: to be fitted in America
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AK1121
Date: 13/01/86
Customer details: Muck Motor Sales Inc.
10 Campbell Boulevard
Gietzville
New York 14068 USA
SA9AK3023FAO1712
Colour: Mercedes Red
Trim: Black
Tonneau: Black
Modifications: Hood scoop
Ign: RO1128
G/box: SAFE1042
Boot: FS963
Bonnet: FS953
Fuel: JC104
Engine: 302
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Trevor,
Not that "Muck" guy again? I hear he is best buds with A.L. and together they are going to resurrect Alvis or some such old tat.
Rick
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I look forward to seeing your magnificent Alvis Rick. A partnership made in heaven, to be sure. (Will it look a bit like a re-bodied SmartFourFour..?)
and by popular demand (Gregg):
AK1203
Date: 19/6/87
Customer details: Auto Haus Rochester
99 Marsh Road
Rochester
NY 14445 USA
SA9AK302HA017203
Colour: Porsche Guards Red
Trim: Black
Tonneau: Black
Modifications: Black wheel centres
Ign: C13344
G/box: SAFE 1042
Boot: FS940
Bonnet: FS880
Fuel: JC701
Engine: 302 injection
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Aloha and thanks so much...can't believe you had the records.....that completes the history......I wonder why the wheels were painted black......were any more done like that?
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Hello Gents,
Any info on AK1087? I have nothing substantial on the car, other than the original purchaser's name. When I visited the AC factory (Frimley)in June 2002, Cyril Harvey was able to produce a very battered 3-ring binder which did contain a build sheet for my car, but was not allowed to make me a copy. I did buy a factory oil cooler setup while I was there though. Thank You for anything you find.
AK1087
August 1985
Porsche Platin
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Yes 1234 has black wheel centers and Brass spinners which is odd to me..never seen brass ones before.
Thanks again for the info Trevor..
Ron
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quote:
Originally posted by cobramk4
Hello Gents,
Any info on AK1087? I have nothing substantial on the car, other than the original purchaser's name. When I visited the AC factory (Frimley)in June 2002, Cyril Harvey was able to produce a very battered 3-ring binder which did contain a build sheet for my car, but was not allowed to make me a copy. I did buy a factory oil cooler setup while I was there though. Thank You for anything you find.
AK1087
August 1985
Porsche Platin
I visited Frimley in 2005 and Cyril did photocopy the build sheet for my CRS. Perhaps due to the fact that they were in departure mode...? I would suggest contacting John Owen in Malta who still has all the documents. You may be able to get a faxed copy if their stance has changed. Alternatively, contact Steve Grey of Brooklands Motor Company who holds a lot of information on the cars - he may have copies himself.
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Hi Ron,
Yes they look brass when they oxidize. If you polish them with a decent metal polish (Like Noxon), they turn very bright again.
(http://)
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Ron,
My car AK1023 has black wheels and brass spinners as well. Never quite sure whether the spinners should be polished bright and shiny or not though! So far I've left them unpolished. As the rest of it is "as new" it gives a patina and a little bit of age to the car. What do you do with yours?
Nick
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same here, blkack wheels and brass spinners
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Trevor
Any chance of delving into the achives and confirming how many MK 1Vs were actually supplied with Hard Top.
Barry Howsley's AK1260 is the only one Ive seen, however on quickly scanning through the AC Register I note the following MK1Vs also have HardTops (Factory Fitted?)
AK1148, AK1171, AK1182, AK1192, AK1248, AK1249, AK1261, AK1265 and AK1273.(total TEN )
LeMans style Aluminium HardTops are manufactured By Steve Gray " Brooklands Motor Company" and
by Aubrey Finsburgh "Classic Autos" Both these require modified half size boot lids.
Keith
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AK1116 whose invoice is shown above has a factory hardtop fitted. It was the only one I sold and the only one in the US as of 1986.
Rick
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Seems like it's 11, according to the entries in the Chassis Register......
1116 - 1171 - 1182 - 1186 - 1192 - 1248 - 1249 - 1260 - 1261 - 1265 - 1273
There is no reference to any 'modifications' (extras) to 1148, so it might have had a top, just not recorded. I may be wrong, but those are the only cars I found in the list.
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Trevor
Thank you for your prompt reply, I know of some 6 people with CRS and MK1V all seeking details on availability of suitable hardtops. Not sure if Gerry Hawkridge units fit.
My interest, is simply, having been offered a Hardtop with spare flat screen plus a pair of side curtains at a price I couldn't turn down. It was a case of buy now and store in the garage or workshop. Little is known of How many Aces have hard tops wether they be AC, Bristol or 2.6 Ford powered, Maybe some one out there has some info which could be fed through to the respective Registrars, Then !! there had to be a catch, Some-one just might pen a feature in ACtion. Seriously any info would be appreciated by both Tony Bancroft and me.( Will attempt to place pic or two on forum ....... Dont hold your breath, it could take a while... ..
Keith
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Originally posted by AC Ace Bristol
Trevor
Thank you for your prompt reply, I know of some 6 people with CRS and MK1V all seeking details on availability of suitable hardtops. Not sure if Gerry Hawkridge units fit.
My interest, is simply, having been offered a Hardtop with spare flat screen plus a pair of side curtains at a price I couldn't turn down. It was a case of buy now and store in the garage or workshop. Little is known of How many Aces have hard tops wether they be AC, Bristol or 2.6 Ford powered, Maybe some one out there has some info which could be fed through to the respective Registrars, Then !! there had to be a catch, Some-one just might pen a feature in ACtion. Seriously any info would be appreciated by both Tony Bancroft and me.( Will attempt to place pic or two on forum ....... Dont hold your breath, it could take a while... ..
Keith
Try Dave Brookes at DB replicas (posts as 'Dave' on this site.)He does a very nice hard top.
http://www.v8cobra.co.uk/htm/home.htm
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Gerry makes spares that fit original-shape cars. He is always having to advise the people who phone to order a top for their Dax, GD, Crendon etc that those cars are a Different Shape (stupid) only to be met with disbelief and ill-mannered comments. (it's difficult to tell a 'Cobra' owner that their pride and joy aint Cobra shaped...)
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Brian Angliss told me that each hardtop had to be hand fitted as the deck shapes on the MK IVs varied. Just as did the early AC cars. My suggestion was to make a fiberglass top with extra material at the bottom so they could be "trimmed to fit"......Brian thought I was daft!
Rick
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Did all the MkIVs have 'AK' chassis numbers including those after Brian Angliss bought AC Cars?
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If you include the Superblowers as MkIV's, these were prefixed ACSB7xxx.
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Trevor
Saw Gerry the other week, he has the Origonal AC Ace Hardtop mould for Curved screen with rounded corner rear perspex window.
He was aware of the flat screen version, however upon closer inspection we conclude that AC would have kept the rear window the same and maybe just modified / adapted the mould to produce flat and Curved screen version hardTops.
My top is Ex Simon Taylor who confirms it origonated in 61/62 period from AC Factory Thames Ditton, Fits AC Ace and early Mk11 Cobra.
Buying rear window hopefully next week and fitting same day.............At least things materialise from Gerry's more than can be said from AC Malta. ( Only Cost £30.00 return to Fly to Malta from Luton, must arrange group trip to the Factory, visit Owen etc and See Just What is left of our favourite Marque.
Keith
Keith
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30 quid!!? I must have been looking in the wrong place last year! Mind you, as I live a stones throw from Gatwick, I tend to forget there are other airports. No cheap flights from there though, so I put it on the back burner. Curses
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But Stelios has re-named it Luton/London so it can't be that far away .....can it ? I might be interested in an ACOC weekend in Malta. Given that the weekend forecast in London is snow, Malta sounds good. Is anyone else interested ?
John.
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John.
At £30 for a flight it sounds like a good idea! I'll look on the web to see if there are any good hotel deals. What sort of dates did you have in mind?
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Cheapest 4 Star I can find starts at £14 per night! At that rate it's less than the cost of me staying here and heating the house - must make sure Jean has a warm coat!
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Now that IS funny [:)]
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Just in case you may think I have lost my senses and have suicidal tendencies I did show the post to her and got full permission before I sent it.
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Well, yes the thought did cross my mind. Do you have to obtain permission for each contribution or do you just submit a report to management at the end of the day ?[B)]
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Our policies dictate that normal day to day communication can be undertaken without prior approval, though is subject to random audits. However items that may be considered of a sensitive nature do require concurrence by the appropriate authority. Failure to adhere to these policies can lead to serious censequences and would have certainly led to the withdrawal of priviledges such as the magnificent Filet de Bouef au Poivre that I have just enjoyed.
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was 1069 originally white it is black now?????
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Hi mark ,do you know why this car had a color change
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I dont think after the car was delivered in white anyone here would know why it was painted black ..your best bet is too take the info and contact the original owner .. I dont think you will egt the answer your looking for.
Ron
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Hi Rick,
are there any records about AK 1106 available in your knowledge base?
Thanks, Uwe
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I still have the master pattern to produce "fastback" style hard-tops if any owner needs one. Custom fitted to your individual car, so perfect fit. Highest quality top which uses all factory positions for easy, no modification, location.
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Can anyone tell me or show me what type of weatherstrip/molding is at bottom of hardtop, where it sits on the body of the car? What are measurements and profile so I could try to find or replicate? Thank you.
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Originally posted by westcott
Hi Rick,
are there any records about AK 1106 available in your knowledge base?
Thanks, Uwe
I will look and report.
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Hi Rick,
I have 1061. Do you have records of that? Sold in CA I think.
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Originally posted by AK1301
Hi Rick,
I have 1061. Do you have records of that? Sold in CA I think.
I think so, I will look this weekend.