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428 Frua Forum / Trading Post: Looking for.../Looking to sell...
« on: October 21, 2007, 05:36:44 »
Thank you both Clifford and Robin.  I'll be investigating both sites you submitted soon.  Might not be a bad idea to have spares.
   
   BTW, what's the forum's concencus...  Fogs or Driving lamps [or both]?
   
   [I might be persuaded to install both for the Rallye look, but, it might detract fromt the classic lines...  Hmmm....  Overheating is an issue too.  Probably just stick with one or the other.  I'm thinking driving as we shouldn't be driving such rare cars in fog!
   
   --  Chuck

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428 Frua Forum / 39 PH in Octane..
« on: October 21, 2007, 05:33:32 »
quote:
Originally posted by runt
   
Hi Chuck, that's cool, and knowing it brings pleasure will be payment enough! That car is of course a legend, and a faithful ambassador for AC in the early sixties, really fired my imagination as a youngster, good to know it is in the rudest of good health!
   
   Paul.[:)]
   

   
   Thanks again Paul.  I hope to have some more material to scan soon.
   
   --  Chuck

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428 Frua Forum / What no brakes!!
« on: October 21, 2007, 05:32:32 »
quote:
Originally posted by cliffordl
   
Having last used CF25 for a 40 mile run a few weeks ago I started up last Sunday only to feel the brake pedal drop to the floor.
   
   I know little about brakes, the wingside reservoir looked as good as empty. Am I to assume master cylinder failure? - oddly there is no sign of any leakage.
   
   All and any advice would be more than welcome.
   
   Cliff.
   

   
   Well, it could be a leak anywhere along one of the brake lines, or in the caliper's themselves as well.  I take it you didn't feel any pressure drop whilst bombing about a few weeks ago?
   
   Did you notice any puddles on the floor under CF 25?
   
   If you can gently move '25 so you can examine the floor underneath her, you might find puddles which may lead you to the specific component which is causing grief.  You might wish to mark with chalk or crayon where the tyres are sitting so you have a point of reference.
   
   Just some random thoughts...
   
   --  Chuck

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428 Frua Forum / MA 200 - AC 428 Prototype
« on: October 19, 2007, 06:11:24 »
quote:
Originally posted by msgsobe
   
why not leave the porn post?   LOL
   

   
   I suspect it was a cut-rate porn site.  Not that I actually checked, mind you.
   
   --  Chuck

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428 Frua Forum / 39 PH in Octane..
« on: October 18, 2007, 04:46:11 »
Paul!
   
   I received the copy of Octane you sent me today. _T_H_A_N_K_S_!_!_!_  I haven't had the chance to read it yet, but it's on the top of the pile.
   
   Thanks again and let me know if there is anything I can do to repay you!
   
   --  Chuck

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428 Frua Forum / New [to me] Pics of "AC 427 Frua Convertible 1968"
« on: October 18, 2007, 03:55:35 »
I forgot to mention...  Enlargements are available here:
   http://home.xnet.com/~cmaddox/motorin/frua/new2me_1968_roadster/
   
   --  Chuck

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428 Frua Forum / 39 PH in Octane..
« on: October 02, 2007, 04:04:37 »
quote:
Originally posted by runt
   
Chuck, this monthly 'Octane' is a nice publication with Carroll Shelby, Jay Leno and Nick Mason(Pink Floyd drummer) regular columnists,some mouthwatering classics featured and excellent photography, as Nik says 39 PH is a piece of history, a wonderful old racing 289 and the first Cobra I ever saw racing; watching the old black and white tv at my Grandmother's; I would have been about eight or nine and that Ford V-8 sound made a hell of an impression..!
   
   Perhaps I can send a copy over to you.
   
   Paul.[:)]
   

   
   I would appreciate it Paul, if you would pick me up a spare copy.  I'll PayPal you the funds necessary to post it to me...
   
   --  Chuck

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428 Frua Forum / 39 PH in Octane..
« on: September 28, 2007, 20:10:52 »
quote:
Originally posted by nikbj68
   
Hi Chuck. 39PH was the AC Cars entry at Le Mans in 1963, where it finished 7th, then went on to be one of the most famous racing Cobras outside of America. This is the Magazine:
   

   
   Ah! Very cool, I'll be on the outlook!  Thanks for the heads-up gents!
   
   --  Chuck

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428 Frua Forum / 39 PH in Octane..
« on: September 28, 2007, 17:11:52 »
Paul,
   
   Please forgive my ignorance...  But is 39 PH a Frua?  I'd be interested in obtaining a copy if it is, and I can't find it locally.  Would you please keep us informed on this matter?
   
   Thank in advance!
   
   --  Chuck

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428 Frua Forum / Scans of AC 428 Frua Articles & Ad's...
« on: September 28, 2007, 09:34:21 »
quote:
Originally posted by Classicus
quote:
So I guess I probably should call "Dibs" on anything I'm bidding on so that we don't compete against one another and drive the price up, eh?
Oh you're perfectly safe there as I refuse to buy anything on EBay these days !! People coming in at the very last second just when you thought it was all yours got too annoying in the end ! Still Dibs it is, if ever [:D]
I'm one of those snipers,  I find it's the only way to play.
   
quote:
.. and the Triumph Spitfire III exhibiting a case of "Hark the Herald Axle Swings!".
quote:
Originally posted by Classicus
   
Lol never heard that one ! [:p]
   
Well, that one I heard from my cousin Roger...  He was an MGB GT driver.  The summer of 1976 he worked along with me for my Father/Grandfathers's construction company.  I would have been 14/15 that summer.  Anyway, along the way to the restaurant where we ate lunch there was a used car lot where there was a nice condition Triumph GT6 I had taken a fancy to [seeing where I was already starting to look for potential cars when I got my driver's license the next summer].  Anyway, I mentioned it to him [probably a big mistake because he was an MG driver after all] and he related that the problem with the Triumph's [especially the GT6 and the Spitfire was that the rear suspension was borrowed from an earlier car called the Herald.  Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia:
   
quote:
"The only major criticism was of its rear suspension; the GT6 inherited the swing-axle system from the Spitfire, which in turn was copied from the Herald small saloon. In the saloon it was tolerated, in the little Spitfire it was not liked, and in the powerful GT6 it was heavily criticised. Triumph had done nothing to improve the system for the GT6, and the tendency to break away if the driver lifted off the power mid-corner was not helped at all by the increased weight at the front of the car. The handling was most bitterly criticised in the USA, an important export market for Triumph, where they were traditionally very strong. Similar criticism was being levelled at the Vitesse saloon, which shared both the GT6's engine and its handling problems."

   And he said [I can't remember if he was quoting a magazine review [probably] or jibe's from MG owners [possibly] or made it up himself [he was/is a very sharp customer]] that the phrase "Hark The Herald Axle Swings" was a frequent retort with folks commenting on the Triumphs so equipped.
   
   I thought it memorable.
   
   Anyway, I can't remember for the life of me what year the one on the lot was, I want to say it was a 1970, but it could just as easily been a 1971 or 1972[my cousin's MGB GT was a Gray 1972 I believe, the last year with the "pointy" tail lights which he greatly preferred to the later "blocky" lights] It may well have been a late enough model to have an upgraded suspension [which dealt successfully with the issues suffered by the earlier models...
   
   The tail end did look like this snap:
   
   And not the earlier styling as shown below...
   
   
   
   I did finally convince them to stop one day to take a look at it, and even then [By that time I had probably past my 15th birthday] the small Spitfire sized coupe was really too small for me as I was already nearly 6" tall by then and over 200 lbs. ...  A Datsun 240/260/280Z might still have been a decent fit, the MGB GT would probably been tight fit, but the Triumph was already out of the running.
   
   I still think both the MGB GT and the GT6 were handsome coupes.  I think I prefer the looks of the 2x0Z Datsuns to either, but they were handsome rides.  None are really in the same league as the Frua though.  But the Frua was out of my league [at least financially] as a teenager.
   
   --  Chuck

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428 Frua Forum / Scans of AC 428 Frua Articles & Ad's...
« on: September 27, 2007, 15:31:07 »
quote:
Originally posted by Classicus
   
Great write-up on the 428 and an interesting article! Thanks Chuck goodness knows how you found this one but certainly very nostalgic for me ! [8D]
Oh! It's real easy...  I go up on eBay about three times a week and do a worldwide search on "AC Frua", "AC 428" and "AC 428 Frua" and if any magazines, ad's, brochures, or other stuff I don't have that I want, I either bid on or buy outright.  Most of the recent stuff has come direct from the UK.
   
   So I guess I probably should call "Dibs" on anything I'm bidding on so that we don't compete against one another and drive the price up, eh?
quote:
Originally posted by Classicus
Really liked the comparison between the 428 and the Sprite. My Sprite I think always in top gear as well definitely felt like a pedal car  when I went round Castle Combe circuit in my only attempt at a race ! Second from last and a huge blue haze of burnt oil in the mirror sums it up nicely ! Never knew why it smoked as it was always a very nimble and reliable rally car but at least the old man never found out !
I especially liked the photo's of the MGB straining to keep all four tyres on terra firma, and the Triumph Spitfire III exhibiting a case of "Hark the Herald Axle Swings!".
   
   Cheers!
   
   --  Chuck

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428 Frua Forum / Scans of AC 428 Frua Articles & Ad's...
« on: September 25, 2007, 23:38:42 »
Here's the last of this weeks scans:
   
   
   It's easy to pick out the Frua if you know what to look for!
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   Full Sized originals are located here:
   
   http://home.xnet.com/~cmaddox/motorin/frua/19670427_Autocar/
   
   Enjoy!
   
   --  Chuck
   
   P.S. The same issue also had a nice write up on the Ford GT program.  But I ran out of time to scan that today.

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428 Frua Forum / Scans of AC 428 Frua Articles & Ad's...
« on: September 25, 2007, 20:12:45 »
This one is pretty self-explanitory...:
   
   
   
   Full sized scan lives here: http://home.xnet.com/~cmaddox/motorin/frua/Stand_127/AC_Listing_Full.jpg
   
   Enjoy!
   
   --  Chuck
   
   P.S. For what it's worth, I think there are many better color choices for the Frua than white!

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428 Frua Forum / AC 428 on Ebay--
« on: September 24, 2007, 15:24:26 »
quote:
Originally posted by Classicus
   
quote:
Originally posted by cmaddox3 Same sort of thing happened to my dad with the Cobra 427's. Their values always seemed to be one step ahead of his ability to afford the price of admission.

   Always been the problem with many great classics unfortunately.
   
   However following in exactly the same footsteps as the Cobra's have done with the Mark I, II, III and IV etc., what if there was the option of a brand new and updated Mark II AC 428 available with similar specs to the original etc. ? Would you be tempted to buy that instead ?

   
   It would depend upon how it was accomplished, but it is at the very least something I would consider.
   
   
quote:
Originally posted by Classicus I know if it was not too expensive I'd be very sorely tempted indeed !!

   
   Well, at a certain point that becomes an issue...  What do I mean?  Well consider...
   
   We know what Cobra 427's are going for, or at least we can look up current values.  Price prohibitive, right?  But that's ok [at a certain point] because there are kit's available so that one could make one for themselves.  In fact, I believe there are Turn-Key Kit Cobra's...
   
   Another contender is a Ford/DeThomaso Pantera...  Good styling [OK, perhaps not as beautiful as the AC Frua, but still it's a good design], good mechanical parts availability, probably a better panel parts availability situation if needed, and since they made so many more of them, more are on the market in a given year.  And the prices aren't entirely unreasonable.  I don't follow them super closely, but one could probably get one for less than a AC Frua, have comparable performance [and higher top speed] and just as much fun in one.
   
   
quote:
Originally posted by Classicus On the other hand whilst as Runt said earlier it ought to be on a low volume basis with orders up front to begin with, what sort of price and what sort of market and competition it might be up against is another question altogether as I've no idea at all.... ?

   
   I don't either, but I wouldn't think it would be too difficult to tell a Cobra 427 kit maker to "OK make a MARK IV Frame but increase it's length 6" in this spot in the frame, and ship it too me.  Then one has to figure out how to get a body over the stretched frame, and then finish the rest of it.  I'm sure it could be done, but I have no/little experience in doing that sort of thing.
   
   --  Chuck

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428 Frua Forum / AC 428 on Ebay--
« on: September 23, 2007, 00:49:44 »
quote:
Originally posted by Classicus
   
quote:
Perhaps in a few years....

   ....they might have gone through the roof   [:D]
   

   
   Which is always a possibility...  Same sort of thing happened to my dad with the Cobra 427's.  Their values always seemed to be one step ahead of his ability to afford the price of admission.
   
   A cool and great as the Cobra 427's are/were...  The AC 428 is by far the more sensible choice in my opinion.
   
   --  Chuck

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