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Emmanueld

USA
543 Posts

Posted - 25 March 2010 :  23:29:54  Show Profile  Send Emmanueld an AOL message  Click to see Emmanueld's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hi Damien, nice car, The lock for the glove box should be available from Re-originals, www.reoriginals.com. I have a question about the windshield and rubber! Where did you source them from? Could you let me know? Did you get the rubber from my guy in LA? Thanks

Regards,

Emmanuel
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Damien

Belgium
67 Posts

Posted - 31 March 2010 :  09:01:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear Emmanuel,
I got the windscreen at CCS Windscreens:
Telephone :- 00441245 490590
Fax :- 00441245 352301
Website :- www.ccswindscreens.co.uk


We have reused the existing rubber. I was not able to source the original rubber.
Thanks for th tip on the locker. You have no idea where I can find these small handles for the dashboard switches ?
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Damien

Belgium
67 Posts

Posted - 16 April 2010 :  16:53:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Emmanuel, They do not have this glove box lock any more at re-originals. Any idea ?
Regards,
Damien
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Emmanueld

USA
543 Posts

Posted - 21 April 2010 :  22:45:17  Show Profile  Send Emmanueld an AOL message  Click to see Emmanueld's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Let me see, there is a guy selling Alfa bit over here in LA let me try to remember!
Regards,
Emmanuel
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Emmanueld

USA
543 Posts

Posted - 27 April 2010 :  22:12:06  Show Profile  Send Emmanueld an AOL message  Click to see Emmanueld's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
You know, I am pretty sure the lock is an Alfa piece. Check with: http://arricambi.com/index.htm

Alfa Ricambi! or Alfaollics in the UK: http://www.alfaholics.com/parts_by_car/

Emmanuel. PS, If you want a picture of the thing, I can accommodate.
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Damien

Belgium
67 Posts

Posted - 28 April 2010 :  12:03:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Emmanuel,
I picture would indeed be helpfull.
Kind regards
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Emmanueld

USA
543 Posts

Posted - 28 April 2010 :  22:36:33  Show Profile  Send Emmanueld an AOL message  Click to see Emmanueld's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Your welcome, the car is in the shop, I am going there on Friday, I will post this week end.

Regards,

Emmanuel
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Emmanueld

USA
543 Posts

Posted - 13 May 2010 :  00:47:41  Show Profile  Send Emmanueld an AOL message  Click to see Emmanueld's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Can anybody post photo of the 428 interior rear view mirror? I think it is the same as the Scimitar. I may have the name wrong.

Thanks E

Edited by - Emmanueld on 27 May 2010 01:20:12
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Damien

Belgium
67 Posts

Posted - 14 May 2010 :  13:52:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My steering wheel is finally not fitting. Can anybody tell me where to find the right steering wheel (and which one it is precisely) ?

Thanks,
Damien
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Emmanueld

USA
543 Posts

Posted - 27 May 2010 :  01:15:53  Show Profile  Send Emmanueld an AOL message  Click to see Emmanueld's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Damien, If I remember correctly, your car had a Moto-Lita or Grant steering wheel on! Correct? If you still have it, look at the hub, there should be a number stamped on it and find out from Moto-Lita what is the hub made for. I hope this will tell us where the steering column came from. (Providing of course that the hub was not machined)
I think the easiest thing after that is to fit a replica Cobra wheel. I will measure mine to see if it is 15" or 16". To make it look like the original, you will have to have a wood guy remove the rivets and install new wood as the 428 wheel does not have rivets. The hub will have to be machined to fit your column. FYI, Cobras had VW beetle steering columns. Your car is the later car like mine and I would love to find out where the steering column came from, maybe we can from your Moto-Lita hub!

Thanks,

Emmanuel

Edited by - Emmanueld on 27 May 2010 01:17:03
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Damien

Belgium
67 Posts

Posted - 27 May 2010 :  08:32:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Emmanuel,
Thanks, I will look what I can do. I do not have the original steering wheel.
My steering column is an MGC (early car).
Kind regards,
Damien
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J Jones

USA
39 Posts

Posted - 28 May 2010 :  21:09:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
While you guys must have checked this source, just in case you have not seen this, here's a link to Moto-lita. They claim to have been the original suppliers to AC, and can provide a replacement to original specs. http://www.moto-lita.co.uk/our-products/Wheel_Details_01.aspx?WH_ID=26
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J Jones

USA
39 Posts

Posted - 30 May 2010 :  19:17:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
(they say they can make the wheel and hub to your specifications - no need to have someone else remove the rivets or manufacture the hub - if they can make what you need from scratch)
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J Jones

USA
39 Posts

Posted - 31 May 2010 :  01:31:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
BTW, my Steering wheel is covered with black leather. Looks like it came that way, not covered after-the-fact.
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Damien

Belgium
67 Posts

Posted - 05 June 2010 :  12:02:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The car is getting close to completion.
Some picture :
http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy139/DamienHeymans007/voiturefinietdb.jpg
http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy139/DamienHeymans007/voiturefinieflanc.jpg
http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy139/DamienHeymans007/voiturefinieavant.jpg
http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy139/DamienHeymans007/voiturefinieintrieur.jpg
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J Jones

USA
39 Posts

Posted - 05 June 2010 :  22:03:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Beautiful! I really like the color (colour) -very elegant and purposeful. Also the wheels - They look like they belong to the car. Good cross between the original Chrome spokes and the Pin drive wheels of the big-block Cobras. Who makes these wheels?
Emmanuel and I were visiting our cars at Dennis Cann's yesterday, and I looked at the wires of an original 289 Cobra - looked identical to mine. But those cars were considerably lighter than ours, so it's possible they might not be entirely adequate - depending on how aggressively one drives. Emmanuels car makes better than 500 hp and huge torque, so it's not inconceivable he could rip the spokes right off the hub. He's got pin drives now.
Your interior is really nice, and is the same as my (old, and now a little tatty) early version. Where did you find the switches and window lift controls? Mine are the same, but missing some of the pictograms. (this information is probably in here somewhere. It would be nice if all the bits and pieces were listed in one place)
Anyway - Good job!
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Damien

Belgium
67 Posts

Posted - 08 June 2010 :  21:08:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The wheels were on the car when I bought it, and I had them polished (and new pins placed). I think this are Wolfrace wheels.
The switches were also on the car, as you can see, two are not original, and I will have the originals copied. The window switches come from an Aston Martin DB4 (this is as close to the original as I have found).
As my car is also fitted with a 427 making around 400hp, my workshop guys have strongly recommended me not to go back to wire wheels.
Kind regards,
Damien
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J Jones

USA
39 Posts

Posted - 09 June 2010 :  00:46:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I did find the correct switches online, but neglected to bookmark the page. Ridiculous! I'm pretty sure they were used on Maserati, but have forgotten which model. So I'll have another look - but I did just find what I think are the decals that go on the switches. here's a link: http://www.cartype.com/pages/349/maserati_plaques_stickers_and_badges
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J Jones

USA
39 Posts

Posted - 09 June 2010 :  01:12:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maserati Ghibli/Lucas. I just found them on ebay. Here's a link to the windshield wiper switch;
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Maserati-Ghibli-Windshield-Wiper-Switch-Lucas-OEM-/160437814919?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item255ad6c687#ht_566wt_858
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Damien

Belgium
67 Posts

Posted - 09 June 2010 :  07:52:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We have now tested the car and another problem arises.
The original water hose leading to the water tank is higher than the water tank.
This leads the air of the water tank to go into the engine when driven a little bit harder and that prevents cooling (at low speeds, there is no problem). The air indeed makes a kind of 'mayonnaise' with the liquid.
How did you guys solve this issue ?
Kind regards,
Damien
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Damien

Belgium
67 Posts

Posted - 09 June 2010 :  20:54:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just had Moto Lita on the phone. They indeed claim to have made the Cobra wheels, but not the Frua one (full wooden rim) and they cannot make it. Has anybody an idea on who might be able to make it ?
Best regards,
Damien
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Emmanueld

USA
543 Posts

Posted - 10 June 2010 :  00:20:19  Show Profile  Send Emmanueld an AOL message  Click to see Emmanueld's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hi Damien, do you have the original header tank and radiator? if not this would explain the problem. Can you send or post a pick of your engine bay. you may have to raise the header tank. Emmanuel
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J Jones

USA
39 Posts

Posted - 10 June 2010 :  03:43:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Damien - I don't understand "photobucket", so I can't post a photo of my steering wheel, but it's different than Emmanuel's. Many bits on the car came from Italian suppliers. Who knows, really, how much of the interior was supplied by Frua? AC certainly had their own trimmers. The (by then) antique heating and ventilation controls were used by Aston Martin and other manufacturers (including AC) in the 1950's. I have a Bristol 404, with exactly the same unit. The switches on your car (and mine) were made by lucas, but used in Italian cars. The elegant chromed spiral springs that hold up my bonnet disappeared on later models. Did they run out of them? Was it an attempt to cut costs?

The little AC company probably had to source parts from many suppliers over the 8 year period in which they managed to produce just 81 cars. There are significant differences between Emmanuel's car and mine. Economy and availability were no doubt big considerations for them.

I looked for Alfa steering wheels - partly because Alfa parts appear on Fruas. Here's a link to an Alfa steering wheel, which is only slightly similar to the Moto lita Cobra wheels, but the spokes are similar. Hub is different, but it's clad in black leather (as is mine), and has no rivets. Maybe the Wheel you are looking for is Italian. ?????????

The "air in the cooling system" problem is a shared concern. I bought a new Flowmaster radiator, hoping it would help. Emmanuel has recently had cooling problems as well, thought to be a defective thermostat. But it could be due to air getting into the system. Emmanuel's car has a secondary overflow tank, which he thinks is "original". It is clearly a problem Ford was successful in solving in the hundreds of thousands of Big Block automobiles and trucks they manufactured, but a persistent problem for Frua's.

Here's the link to the (incorrect) Alfa steering wheel.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Alfa-Romeo-Giulia-Spider-Sprint-Steering-Wheel-/120581284229?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c13346185#ht_500wt_911
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administrator

United Kingdom
247 Posts

Posted - 10 June 2010 :  07:12:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you have problems posting photos,email them over and I will put them up for you - bryan dot mo at btinternet dot com.
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Damien

Belgium
67 Posts

Posted - 10 June 2010 :  08:17:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the input. I will put a Cobra steering wheel on my car until I find an original one.
Concerning the heating, the technical solution is easy. The water tank needs to be put higher than the whose leading to the engine, so the air stays in the water tank. The problem of the AC is that the bonnet does not allow that at the place the water tank is.
With my new radiator, the cooling liquid is at 95°C at the top and below 80°C at the bottom, which means it works perfectly. When driven harder however the air is sucked into the water hose, mixes in tiny bubles with the coolant, creating a kind of mayonnaise that does not do the cooling job any more.
I will look how I can solve it technically.
Best regards,
Damien
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